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Turnover off a fumble by the Steelers. And the Cowboys have a safety via blocked punt. The Rams are a mess.

The Jags getting a soft Roughing the Passer penalty IMO.

To answer the OP, usually. I find it more relaxing when the Bills aren't playing!

We invented it; it's American English which is the bastardis/zed version. 😉 Some posters are trying to pass it on all blame, yes. Most are seeing something is up and trying to work out the solution. Laziness? Lack of prep? Lack of confidence? Not trusting his eyes? Coaching? I doubt we'll never know the answer for sure.

British way of spelling it. I think the issue is it feels like Josh gets far more criticism than anyone else, and that includes the likes of McDermott, Dorset, Davis and Knox. Even when the former two have been criticised, it's mostly the prism of "what's up with Josh?" What's up with the Bills O Line? D Line? Why are the players so ill disciplined? Why have all sides of the ball come out slow over the past three weeks? I'd argue it's not being an exempt, but that issues go beyond him as well as with him.

No one does except inside the franchise. But calling Josh lazy is an easy out for many.

You do realise the majority of takes on here are Josh is an issue, but isn't the sole problem? Just as Dorsey isn't the sole problem, McDermott isn't a sole problem, receivers dropping the ball isn't the sole problem, other players showing ill-discipline by gifting opponents penalties isn't the sole problem. But put them all together and we are where we are. If Josh had played better the Bills would have beaten the Pats. If the defense hadn't let the abysmal Pats defense put up 29, the Bills would have beaten the Pats. If Murray hadn't driven into Pats defender on the Knox TD, the Bills would have won. The issue is everything is a mess at the moment - it goes beyond one player or one area.

Think they have to win three of the next four to take them to 7-4. The Bengals can be as bad as the Bills at their worst so might get lucky at Paycor, but have that as a defeat. Accept defeats at the Eagles and Chiefs (7-6), win the next three then lose at Miami takes the Bills to 10-7. May be enough for a wilcard spot. But if the Jets can beat the Eagles and the Pats can beat the Bills, then maybe one or more surpise result will go in the Bills favour.

Don't disagree, but 25 points should still be enough against the Pats, no matter how they come.

Don't think it will get any worse than this. Most seem prepared for defeat against the Bucs, and the nature of the posting will follow. No one expected the hideous performance (at stages, on all sides of the ball) against the Pats.

From memory, the 2021 game felt like it was "all or nothing" as well. A miserable first half performance and the season felt over. Even though the game ended in defeat, the second half performance seemed to kickstart something which carried the Bills through to 13 seconds. It's a week to week league, and I wouldn't be surprised by any result.

Yeah but... injuries. Anyone would think the Bills had grabbed a load of HC defensive players and put them out there. That's not to absolve the offense, they have been poor for too long for first halves of games and that's on coaching and players. But the defense should be more effective than it has been, even with the players lost. ETA - Obviously I mean against the Pats.

If the defense had turned up in the final drive we would have won the game. Just like 13 seconds.

Then it's down to the coaching. Because if they feel the answer is Josh needing to watch more film then they need to tell him to do it or else they'll bench him for Kyle. Perhaps they don't. Perhaps they feel the reason behind it is more complex than Josh supposedly being lazy and/or distracted.

My biggest concern is Josh saying "Who knows?" A bit like McDermott's comment after Pats, where he didn't know where things are going wrong. Doesn't fill me with confidence they're going to sort the issue out.

The issue for me is him saying he doesn’t know why it’s happening. It may be true but don’t admit that to all and sundry. It just shows he’s not up to the job of fixing it.

Yesterday was the first time the Pats had scored over 20 all season. If the D had kept them to the mean, the Bills would have won. The Eagles would have won scoring 21, the Dolphins 18, the Jets 16, the Cowboys 4(!), the Saints 1(!!), the Raiders 18. In reality, the Eagles scored the same number of points as the Bills did yesterday, the Dolphins one less and the Raiders four less. Even with a weakened defense, 25 on offense should have been enough.

No one should be able to dictate to anyone else who they date, or use it to sneer at someone who has done so much for the Bills. And Josh played like this with Britney as well - remember the Jags and Colts in 2021, for example? Indeed, against both the Giants and Pats, Josh and the offense clicked into gear in the fourth quarter which raises questions what was the issue before? Did he break up with Haille after the third quarter of both games? Or perhaps there’s an issue within Orchard Park which needs sorting out.

Diggs? He did one decent thing all day. It’s a miracle they got YAC from him, he barely wins contested balls and has had key drops in successive weeks (but everyone goes in on Knox). Plus he ran the wrong route against the Jags. He’s hardly at the top of the list to blame but he didn’t have a great game yesterday, and has struggled over this run, as have most. Cook and Kincaid - definitely. Third? Um…

I do wonder how much of that is down to McDermott trying to protect the defense because of the lack of manpower. The Dolphins game seemed to be the peak but White went down. Then Milano and Jones were lost in London followed by Oliver this week. So the idea is the offense build up the TOP to protect the defense. But the problem is that approach neuters the offense. Let the offense play naturally and trust them to win a shootout if need be.

Every elite QB and offense will have an off half? Maybe once every so often. The offense has been dire for all but two or three quarters out of the last three games.

It would have been useful if he was just good in the first half. He was anything but.

I think the issue is, when he's not in the right head space, he can look like a rookie QB. And I'm starting to wonder if that will ever change.

I was thinking this. Said on the Post Game Thread, I feel all of the fun has been sucked out of the game for Josh, and he isn't enjoying taken the field anymore with the long drives. Even though there can be logic behind it. Physically, Josh is the best QB in NFL and I stick by that. I'll stick by that no matter how many dispute or argue the point. But he is effected more than most by mistakes, and allows emotions to cloud his judgement. In all honesty, I think the Bills need a Quarterback Whisperer.

As low as I feel right now, knowing this lot they'll raise their game. Will probably go 3-3 at worse, somehow.