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You really think the solution to the current malaise is trade Josh?

How easy do you think it would be for the Bills to find a QB of Josh's calibre, let alone better?

You wouldn't like to see if a change of coaching staff could unlock Josh's full potential first?

The truth is, the Bills are probably down one more than loss than expected. I think many of us thought a Rodgers-led Jets could win in week one. London was always going to be a potential headache. Did many of us predict a win at the Bengals? I didn't. Week one stinks because the Bills had the chance to get ahead of the mark when Rodgers went down and Josh messed it up. Then came the defeat at Foxborough, which is the big issue. At the start of the season most would have expected the Bills to be 6-3 now at worst, I imagine - maybe 5-4 if they feared a home defeat to the Dolphins. To make it up, there needs to be a surprise result somewhere, without throwing away - figuratively and literally - games they should win. They tend to play the Chiefs and Dolphins hard. Maybe it will happen again?

Who do you replace him with?

But it's alright as the Head Coach - who should be overseeing every aspect of the game, including the OC/play calls etc. - apparently has no idea why the Bills are not using hurry up offense.

@HopefulFuture - if the Bills trade Josh there's no guarantee they'll find someone better in the trade. Despite his issues, he's in the top five, being generous possibly top three, QBs in the league right now. That's not easy to replace.

The bugbear is why the inconsistency? Come out hot, everything looks easy. Second half, fumble aside, everything looks relatively comfortable. What happened for the rest of the first and second quarters? And why is it seen so often.

I'm hoping Broncos beating the Chiefs is going to be similar to the Bills beating the Dolphins - they go to sleep afterwards as that was the game they wanted. Admittedly injuries have not helped post Dolphins.

Make games shootouts. The defense cannot force turnovers for anything at the moment so let the offense take the preferred approach. If it means games are 38-35 instead of 24-18 so be it.

The way this offense sustains drives is non-conventional when wanting to dominate TOP. The usual approach would be to run more than throw, use every second of the play clock and don't take unnecessary risks. The strength of this offense is to go no huddle with risky plays, keeping everything uptempo. Dorsey initiated this on the first drive, and then abandoned it. Why? McDermott and Josh both say they don't why it was moved away from - did neither think to ask, if so? Josh may not feel in a position to challenge but McDermott certainly is. For e, a conventional approach on TOP offense feels like something which is more from McDemott's wheelhouse than Dorsey's. That's why I don't believe him when he "didn't know". And if it was really the case, as said, why didn't he ask and pull rank? Non-coaching minds all over can see the best approach so having a defensive minded Head Coach point it out shouldn't be unexpected. Can't imagine last night was either considering he came out hot. Changing the design of the offense after the first drive was the issue. When they returned to it in the second half suddenly Josh looked nearer his best again. Funny that.

Because the defense has been in a better shape than now. And I think something may have changed after the Jets game as well, which was probably the first defeat of the Josh era which could be put solely on him. If McDermott isn't dumb then it's Dorsey. One of them is getting it wrong and I'm finding it easier to believe it's McDermott than Dorsey. Either way the offense needs to be allowed to take the approach which suits it best.

Kind of proves my point. Generally the run game, huddles and short passes burns the clock more effectively than uptempo, no huddle - but not for the Bills. I think McDermott is stuck on conventional wisdom.

Because I think he’s trying to protect the battered defense by asking the offense to pick up the TOP. The mindset needs to change; if the Bills need to win a shootout the fine. The offense is the supposed strength; let them play to their peak.

I wonder if there is an internal battle at Orchard Park about how Josh should approach the game. Some think he should keep to what works and take the mess with the magic whilst others want to try and develop him further to cut the mess and, if it affects the magic, so be it if reduces turnovers. It’s only supposition but, if so, it’s not surprising the offense is unpredictable and the use of Josh changes drive by drive. I know his old approach cost the Bills against the Jets but it’s won a load more games too. Is it time to call for original Josh and stomach the flies in the ointment?

And he’s being sent to Chicago? What’s Josh done to deserve that? I’m going to make a hot take. I don’t blame Dorsey. I think - with no proof - that McDermott is calling for the offense to slow the clock to protect the defense. Everyone knows what gets this offense into rhythm. No huddles, designed runs from Josh, fast play. It worked on the first drive so why abandon it? Is Dorsey that stupid? Some may say yes, but I don’t think so. McDermott baulked that the weakened defense would buckle so wanted the offense to slow down and pile up the TOP. For me, McDermott has to accept the Bills best chance of winning games is accepting a shootout. Do that against the Pats and the Bills would have won. Defeat tonight in isolation is fine. I bet most of us had it down as a loss when the schedule came out. Probably expected to find the Rodgers-led Jets a problem in week one and the London trip a banana skin too. It’s the Pats defeat which means a surprise win is really required. It just didn’t come tonight.

I'm not sure if he's the next big thing but Josh has had issues this season and he's in Year 6. A small run of bad form doesn't mean he should be written off. Do I think he's a future MVP? No. Do I think he could be a serviceable NFL QB? Yes.

Yeah, for all the criticism he can pull this around. He's only in his second year. Mahomes has looked poor today. Josh has had a shaky run. Burrow had an awful start to the year. And they're probably the 1-2-3 of QBs in the league.

Purdy's falling apart.

FFS, can any ref decision go against the AFC today?

Wow, the Niners defense have made a play!

If Mahomes is turned over, the defense seems steps up.

The Niners defense is embarrassing yet, in it's current state, probably better than the Bills. Oh dear.

McCaffrey is amazing.

He's definitely a scheme QB but I don't think he's as bad as some make out either.