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You brought up his traits like that was supposed to mean something. Allen didn't start looking like a QB until last season.... Not saying Jones has the same skills. But its week 4 and plenty here are acting like he needs to look like a SB caliber QB now.

I would...make him make a rookie mistake

No he doesn't. He is a rookie who is seeing blitz left and right, like what exactly do you need him to do? Traits don't mean crap until you actually perform.

He's played just as well as Brady for being a rookie in a nationalized game. There is a difference

They don't know any better.

Exactly...if anyone outside this form said the same thing about Josh Allen that's being said in here his first 3 season, you would of got a lot of oh they are just "talk heads" they do not know crap.

Funny that is exactly what you did. And yet fans call for McD and his coaches heads after a lost. If the GM doesn't get the players on fans wish list - fans here call for his head. My point no matter how "prideful" you and some feel you are as a fans...a lot of you act no different than any other fan. I never been one who cares who has the better fanbase type of guy. That doesn't matter to me. I give a damn if my team wins. and I know a lot about the bills in the 90s with Kelly and the K-gun offense. I am a pats fan and a football fan overall as well.

This is so nonsensical...ha ha who the f has any of these two on a list....top 5, 10, 15..even top 20, but i am sure BB is on those list. Bill Parcells would be rolling in his grave(this is a joke..i know he is not dead) if he had to read some of the nonsense that fans say about football.

It's someone trolling BB like what you guys are doing. I am sure if this was you guys(with the same success).... a group of you would be upset that McD and the Bills let Allen go to another franchise. I mean BB does have his enemies up here too.

Pretty much that is it though. Some fans can be irrational no matter what the laundry is. Like some already said, Bills lose a game and there's plenty of fans taken shots at the HC and Offensive coordinator.

You have proof that it's otherwise? Do you have a problem with me being here? I mean isn't that what the ignore button is for if my presence here bothers you?

Why are you guys comparing what one fan does to a whole fan base? 2nd. this statement here is completely wrong, have you spoken to every NE fan, no you obviously haven't because there are plenty of fans post Drew Bledsoe that's been fans since the 85 bears beat them down in the SB. It's like every other fan base.

Mac Jones hasn't been the issue. Try again. That post wasn't meant for you.

You clearly knew it was meant for you or you wouldn't of replied back. So mission accomplished.

?? I mean... what are we doing here?? Fans don't travel to other messages boards anymore? Apparently u didn't know there are bills fans here that go to pats n other teams boards as well? Anything else u got?

Yes, my favorite part....the " I have nothing to add" post. and you do not want me to start talking about the bills history do you?

Well that would be expected if one goes to a team ready to succeed and the other has to start from point A again. You wanna make the switch and see who fairs better BB w the Bucs or Brady with NE? And when it's all said and done or dead, you will continue to be more likely disappointed when nothing new comes out of their "cheating" As I said in another post. You have already had ex-employees, government officials and probably a good-ass nosey reporter that has not unearth anything yet. Yes it's a little different with both scenario. You have a rookie QB so they are only given him so much responsibility. Their Oline has not been very good to run any scheme and both TEs aren't getting much separation from their defenders. Smith a little more than Hunter Henry.

Both TEs have been very disappointing at this point. Barely recorded much for stats. The only players who have been steady in the pats offense so far have been the QB, J.Meyers (at WR) and Damien Harris has had his moments. That's about it at this point.

And why is that? did you look at the bucs offensive weapons compared to what Brady had his last year in NE or last year at all? This is all hyperbole, there is no NE -based ESPN. There's just fans jealous and tired of hearing about the Pats. Like every sports show is full of hot takes and the hosts saying something to get notice. Everyone show does it and every host does it in every sport... to just about every player. It's what sports shows are now a days. I am sure you are not complaining when GMFB hosts goes completely bat-sh*t crazy about the Bills

So everything he accomplished In his career now is negated after Tom Brady left? Mind you, Tom Brady went to better team, he didn't go to a team with the same talent as the Patriots. Mind you BB defense won them their last SB not Tom Brady, Mind you his defensive game plan against the Bills in the SB is in the HOF, Mind you he won a SB in 01 with a "game manager " but we are going to wipe that out because we (some fans) are going to take a small portion of his career and now claim he isn't what the NFL says he is?

Jones had 2 ints that were his fault, but he is not the reason for their lost. And BB is not losing his "fast ball" it's week 3 and not even a year and a quarter of "the rebuild" but posters/fans with an agenda like to throw logic out the window and make hot takes over sample sizes instead of waiting for the whole picture. We all know after coaches lose a HOF player(s) and start to rebuild, they make the playoffs the next season and the SB the season after that. (sarcasm)

Love these knee-jerk reactions. It's like some people just started watching the NFL.

I wonder does this thread get made if they win today?

Umm..me admitting that they are guilty of spygate but some how I am denial?? It's not that serious because right after spygate the likes of Bill Crowder, Mike Shanahan have come out and said they did the same thing. Prior to 07 you were allowed to tape from your own sidelines but the NFL put a stop to that and of course BB took it to far. It's not that serious cause Joe Montana has come out and said his lineman and receivers were using "stickum" on their hands, my point. The saints were paying players to injury other players (bounty gate much worse), Mike Tomlin got on the field and tripped the opposing returner during a live game You (not meaning you) would be a fool to think teams aren't trying to use a little bit of extra to get an advantage. Not saying the pats were not wrong or shouldn't been punished just some fans get too extreme w it. Oh and ESPN had to apologize to the Patriots organization about claiming they taped the Rams walk through during the SB. That was false. And the 3 SBs after spygate also shows they didn't need tapes to win...although what they did and kept doing was stupid. And you don't know nothing about me. Everytime I post its usually factual. You just don't like that I root for the enemy. Oh well.

Thank you. My point. Please go back and read post. I said they were guilty of spygate and I said "EX" employees. Thank you.