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49 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:
He has always looked oddly "weak" to me compared to other receivers around the league. Not sure if it's his body type or what. But he looks weak and slow and he has always had suspect hands. I think he's likely out of the league completely within 2-3 years.
Weirdest thing is that coming out of college, so many scouting reports put verbatim “he catches everything!” That didn’t happen in the NFL.I was watching rookie highlights. There’s a game vs San Diego were Josh hits an open Zay with a 40 yard bomb. The ball is a bit under thrown and Zay is so open he turns his body to catch the ball that hits him in the stomach. But he ends up bobbling an easy catch which wouldn’t negated a huge gain. That’s Zay’s career in Buffalo, folks
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Zay still doesn’t make the team this year. He’s a low-end WR on most NFL teams. I think the problems we saw last year are still the ones that continue to plague him:
1. No separation
2. inconsistent hands
3. Not good on contested catches
4 Not quick, shifty or fast enough to create mismatches
If you were to put Zay on the team, he might be the 2nd WR of the PS behind Duke Williams
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6 hours ago, Southern Bills Fan said:
He clearly had possession with the ball breaking the plane of the goal line.
I’m still trying to figure out how the Allen pass to Kroft was ruled as an INT last week. -
3 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:
We had Liguet and Star last year. Big ugly's at the 1.
Oliver, Phillips, Jefferson are good options at 3 technique.
I think people dismiss Liuget's contributions last year. He provided a rotation to keep Star fresh, and the run D was better after he was signed.
This year we are light at DT this year. We need a few 'big uglies' added to DT. Liguet and or 'Snacks' anyone?
The last I knew Liuget is on the Texans PC. Snacks is unsigned.
With Snacks there must be some reason why he is unsigned.
I saw that Vincent Taylor was playing with the Browns. Taylor would seriously have been a good candidate for 1 technique.
I do wonder if the team makes a move at the trade deadline
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4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Stay tuned to this developing situation. As was mentioned today, the titans need to go two consecutive days with no new positive tests in order to re-open their facility by Wednesday, which is the last possible day they can start practicing in order to play on Sunday. They have not gone One day without a positive test since last weekend.
This game is currently off the board in Vegas
I don’t think this game happens. Not next week, anyway-
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7 hours ago, rayray808 said:
WEEK ONE: B+
WEEK TWO: A+
WEEK THREE: B+
WEEK FOUR: A-
24/34 - 71% completion - 288 yards - 2 TDs passing - 1 TD rushing - 0 turnovers
He had one bad play. That's it. So for those who want to harp on the late sack he took that got us out of field goal range, here is me recognizing that yes, it was a bad play. Now let's move on to the rest of the game...
Unreal accuracy and poise shown today. The bad drops today didn't break him and cause the offense to unravel like it has done in the past. Just darts all over the field. The fastball and change up was working. Short passes. Deep passes. He had it all. The what should have been TD pass to John Brown as just amazing. The laser to Beasley was a throw not many in the league could make. There was no trickery, and broken plays needed. Josh Allen did it with his arm today.
There was a moment after he got hurt where the season flashed before my eyes. If he would have broken his collarbone I honestly have no idea where we would be as a team. Perhaps that "Plan B" is something we should start thinking about as the W's pile up?
This now marks 4 games in a row where we saw Josh Allen the passer. Josh Allen the franchise QB. Josh Allen the AFC offensive player of the month. Josh Allen... the potential MVP.
GO BILLS!
This was one his most consistent performances. Yes the sack took the Bills out of FG range but in this situation, it ultimately didn’t have and effect on the score -
The weird thing is, the virus doesn’t seem to be transferring during games. There were zero zero infected Vikings who played Ten on Sunday. Also I don’t believe there were any infected Raiders who played NE.
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2 hours ago, JerseyBills said:
I just woke up to use the bathroom. smoked a cigarette, and I see this tweet .. I can't fall back asleep. The Bills have been a major source of happiness for years but especially in this surreal year of 2020.
God I hope the NFL goes a different route.
Oh and Don't kill the messenger!
I would be fine with extending the season or even shortening it by a few games. Do whatever you have to do to protect players first and then have a season, second-
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7 hours ago, Bangarang said:
People here have spent years bashing and discrediting the media for criticizing Allen and unsurprisingly their credibility has been restored now that they are praising him.
This is mostly true. Also the same people who used #FireBrianDaboll are now suggesting that the Bills block any head coaching interviews!
IMO what pissed of so many Bills fans isn’t the projections, as much as it was how arrogant and snarky the Barnwell’s of the world were when discussing Allen.
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7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:
Trade it for a stud DE. Better bet than a college kid.
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10 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:
He was solid in his first three years in Washington from 2016 to 2018. He was an effective corner but he was considered a disappointment in those years not because he was bad but because he was signed to be a top tier corner (as he was an All-Pro in 2015.) Granted he was a disaster in 2019 for the Skins. But If he can just be an effective corner like he was those first three years in Washington that will be a plus.
If he can stay healthy and maintain the average level he was at from 2016-2018, it would be a huge boost. They can line him up on the outside or at slot CB. I do worry about his health/age but As long as he can stay healthy, I think he’ll be better than some are predicting41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:Unless someone claims him.... you know, like the Titans....
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21 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said:
Step right up Josh Norman
Hellllllllllllllo Josh NormanBTW This Nick guy is a clown
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Teams lose off bye weeks all of the time. It it an advantage? Maybe. But I don’t think it’s as big of an advantage that’s Impossible to overcome
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59 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Most preseason predictions, along with Las Vegas, had us as a 9-win team. A fair and reasonable prediction given our schedule and the questions at QB. While it seems the QB questions have been answered, I'd say that Josh's development has been "balanced" by some Defensive regression to keep us about equal to where we were starting. With that said...
We are currently 3-0.
That means, if you believe 9-7 is still a likely outcome with this schedule, we are looking at going 6-7 the rest of the way (yikes).
I see 2 more wins coming from the Dolphins and Jets, and expect to split with the Pats. So that leaves 3 other wins.
Broncos and Chargers are probably the rest of the "obvious" wins. Leaving only 1 more win out of Raiders, Titans, Chiefs, Seahawks, Cardinals, 49ers, and Steelers.
I'd have to think we can get a win from one of those better teams*. But could also see us dropping a stinker against the Broncos or something (sorry, BBFS).
So sitting at 3-0, and getting a head start on our record, how do YOU see the rest of the season playing out? Can we get to 10-6? Are we mentally prepared to go 6-7 the rest of the way?
edit to clarify: When I say "those better teams", I mean that as "the better teams on our schedule", not "teams that are better than us". I also believe we can certainly beat more than 1 of them.
Just crazy to think that with this good start, we could be looking at 10-11 wins even with a tough schedule. Also steeling myself to understand that even if we do go 6-7 the rest of the way, we still have a good shot at the division since I dont see the Pats being much better.
Given how the NFC West is playing, 9-7 might win the AFCE!
It just shows how it those divisional games are - in particular the 2 versus NE.
As far as the rest of the scheduled, I find that teams always lose a few games they should win and a win a few they should lose. It usually evens out
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30 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:
Around 98% of the posters on this board wanted Josh Rosen over Allen. Some even wanted Buffalo to give up the farm to the NY Giants to draft Rosen at the #2 spot.
Some stated that they felt like they were "gut punched" when Buffalo drafted Allen. One noted supposed board draft guru had a 3rd round grade on Josh Allen and most stated he will never be good because of his accuracy issues.
This was the consensus from most of the draft pundits, save Mr Hair, Mel.
"Allen will play well in an offense that emphasizes play action, moving pockets, and deep passing. He’ll struggle if he starts right away, unless coaches simplify his reads and emphasize his option to check down. He should head to a team with an established veteran so he can learn the ropes, otherwise his potential may never manifest on Sundays."
Most people thought he would never be good because the PFF’s of the world said he wouldn’t be. Allen is a case study why you shouldn’t always take everything the Analytics crowd says as fact3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:He could just as easily have busted. They’re just playing the odds. Switch Allen and Darnold. Are they in the same position today?
I don’t think so. Darnold would be in a great spot in Buffalo and Allen probably isn’t starting anymore in NY.There so much more than goes into the success of a QB prospect outside of their college stats and measurables. So much is dependent on the situation they are drafted in.
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51 minutes ago, K-9 said:
Twitter analysts.
Enough said.
Draft Twitter is a thing! By that I meant the usual PFF crew and sites like the Draft Network etc-
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1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said:
They didn't miss anything. And I think you're mis-stating what was said about him. That he had a good chance of being the next Locker or Boller? Fair enough. That his ceiling was Mallett? Please. Maybe a guy here or there blew it this badly but the consensus knew that his ceiling was very very high indeed, but questioned the likelihood of reaching that ceiling.
He was generally considered a first-rounder even though he was also thought to require two years of development, though some said even more.
Guys who need development are less valued, and for good reason. Teams would rather have a guy who will be ready quicker, and it is correctly understood development is hard. Relatively fewer developmental guys become good than guys who require less development. And more, a developmental guy is far more dependent on having an excellent environment. The situation has to be excellent. Allen on the Jets might well have not succeeded.
More, there's another problem with development guys, which is that even in good circumstances, plenty of them can't develop. Changing mechanics is hard. Some guys prove unable to make those changes. And there's no way to accurately predict which guys can change and which can't.
They actually nailed the Josh Allen evaluation. They said he was a hard worker and a great kid, and they were right. Without that and the terrific environment the Bills provided, he wouldn't have become what he has.
There were an awful lot even a fair amount of Cam Newton comps, which appear to have been exactly what this group saw.
The name that kept popping up with Allen was Christian Hackenberg. Many of Twitter analysts made the comparison quite a bit -
9 minutes ago, Rk_Bills86 said:
I'm going to make a statement that many people probably aren't going to like. Draft Experts did not get Allen wrong. He was simply on of the few QBs that has actually made progress towards his ceiling when starting from what would be considered a low floor. This is a combination of many things - including Allen himself, but lets not sit here and ignore the fact that the organization has done literally everything in it's power to build around him to aid his improvement.
New OL - far better than what we had with TT and JA's first year
The Right OC - that uses an absolute TON of various looks, packages, and schemes and is just now able to scheme per opponent
New Weapons - based on what he needs and how the NFL is trending
If you don't believe me - We only need to look in our own division and see a player that had a much higher floor although lower end ceiling in Sam Darnold where he is dealing with:
Just now getting a possibly good OL (year three and they are just/still addressing this)
The OC/HC that is lauded as a QB guru is a sham
His best current weapon is a very very old Chris Hogan (yeah yeah I know - Injures - but our depth at all the skill positions is far better)
They weren't wrong - they nailed everything he'd need to work on. Josh Allen simply worked to improve while his organization did the same. This is not always the case and it's why 99% of project QBs go nowhere.
To an extent you are right and the analogy between Allen and Darnold is spot on.But IMO where the analytics crowd was wrong was their projections of Josh. Sam Monson claimed Josh would never be a better QB than Baker Mayfield. Also claimed that Josh would never complete higher than 58% of his passes and would need short dump off to do so.
To me, it shows a lack of understand in the role that the organization and coaching plays in the development of a prospect.
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The issue is EVERYONE thinks they can predict success in the NFL. When the truth is - it’s a big crapshoot. There are so many factors that result in the success or failure of a draft pick.
As you’ve seen in Moneyball there’s a natural tension between the analytics and old-school scouting crowd over whose method is best. Stats and data vs. measurables and intangibles.
With the analytics crew, it’s the classic case of data rich, insight poor. They wanted to be the smartest guys in the room. I believe they tried to project Josh using the same data for other top QB’s without considering the context or understanding how pros develop a prospect. That’s why his metrics rated so poorly compared to the other top guys. So hearing that a prospect that they rated so low, mentioned as a candidate for the top pick, just didn’t compute (pun intended!)
As a result they really began to dig their heels and double down on their numbers which said that the odds are unlikely Josh will be a good pro. This led to many snarky tweets to essentially say “see we told you so, he’s really bad.”
IMO it goes back to proving that their method is the best. Some of the skepticism on Allen is actually fair based on his less than impressive college numbers. But the bleak projections, that people like Sam Monson made, are just ignorant. It shows he has no idea about the nuance involved with developing a prospect.
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On 9/18/2020 at 3:19 PM, H2o said:
I don't know how many of you watch ND football, but this guy is the next player from the Irish who could be really good, if not great, in the NFL. Right now they have him ranked anywhere between Mid 1st Round to Mid 2nd Round on most of the sites I've seen.. The young man is gonna be a beast. He plays what is called the "Rover" position at ND, but he would fit perfect into our scheme taking Milano's spot if he is to leave. He filled up the stat sheet last year with 80 tkl, 13.5 tfl, 5.5 sk, 2 ff, 2 fr, and 4 pd. He came firing out of the gate against Duke last weekend with 6 tkl, 2 tfl, 1 sk, and 1 ff. Last year he was between 205lb-210lb. This year he is coming in around 220lb. Watch him last year below.
Wayyyyyy to early to be discussing Milano replacements!
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Here’s why I don’t like Aaron Schatz and the crew at PFF.
This is a clear dig at Bills fans who are slamming Schatz and FO for been completely incorrect on their projection. It’s also an attempt by FO to qualify their initial projection to connect Allen to Fizpatrick.
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There’s a very good chance that instead of bringing on a FA, Justin Zimmer could get activated from the PS and could probably see some playing time in the DL rotation. He’s a bigger guy and a decent run stopper
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4 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:
<yawn> Wake me when/if they ever say anything interesting.
Interesting? You’ll be sleeping for a while
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On 9/28/2020 at 4:59 PM, FlaFitz1 said:
Davis was one of 2 receivers taken in the 4th round with the other being Antonio Gandy Golden.
There was a total of 15 receivers selected before him - 6 in the 1st round, 7 in the 2nd round and 2 in the 3rd round.
The results through 3 games:
Ruggs - 4 catches on 8 targets for 59 yards
Jeudy - 13 catches on 24 targets for 173 yards
Lamb - 16 catches of 21 targets for 230 yards
Reagor - 5 catches of 8 targets for 96 yards
Jefferson - 12 catches of 15 targets for 245 yards and 1 TD
Aiyuk - 7 catches on 11 targets for 91 yards
Higgins - 8 catches on 15 targets for 75 yards and 2 TDs
Pittman Jr - 9 catches on 12 targets for 73 yards
Shenault Jr - 11 catches of 14 targets for 105 yards and 1 TD
Hamler - 6 catches on 12 targets for 78 yards
Claypool - 6 catches on 9 targets for 151 yards and 1 TD
Jefferson - 5 catches on 9 targets for 76 yards
Mims - IR
Edwards - 5 catches on 6 targets for 99 yards
Duvernay - 2 catches of 2 targets for 31 yards Note: only 2 games
Davis - 7 receptions on 7 targets for 103 yards and 1 TD
Gandy- Golden - 1 reception on 3 targets for 3 yards
Now I realize it's VERY early and 3 games doesn't not make a season nor a career. However, in this small sample size Davis is at the top of the group in catch rate, trails only Claypool in yards per reception, and is 6th in yards per game. I would love to see him be targeted more (especially after that toe-drag swag yesterday) and continue this. I'm also very glad he ran a 4.54!!!
I think he’s only going to have a larger role on the offense as the year continues. Given the pending cap situation we could see possibly see Gabe replace John Brown or Cole Beasley in 2021
Hypothetical: Chances we regret losing Daboll?
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It’s still early in the year and a lot can happen but the signs of the Bills offensive production very positive. If The Bills can win the AFC East, it’s all but certain that Daboll is gone.
I also think that Daboll will have a much better chance than Eric Bienemy or whatever upcoming offensive coordinator will emerge.
Over the span of 3 years (if all continues) Daboll will have developed a very raw traits-based QB into an up-and-coming NFL superstar. Bienemy who works alongside with a HOF playcaller, can’t take as much claim.
QB is likely going to be the #1 priority of any team who fires their coach, and what Daboll did with Allen has to be a tremendous selling point
I think NYJ is definitely a possibility. Daboll might be a shot to start from scratch with the top college QB prospect in football.
Daboll’s not dumb like his buddy JMD who stayed in NE when they dangled the HC carrot in front of his face (it’s going to Belichick’s kid when the old man retires). If he gets a HC shot, he’s taking it