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Ryan Nassib - QB - Syracuse
Virgil replied to BuffaloBillsForever's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I just feel bad for the kid. I've always had the opinion that I would support whoever we drafted at QB and trust that the staff did their homework and got the right guy. With that, no one had Nassib really leaving the 2nd round, let alone waiting until round 4. Same for Barkley. As of now, with a 4th, I'd be all for taking either of them. Worst case scenario, they are a back-up and we can cut Jackson or Kolb. Best case scenario, we have two legit starter options -
Rd 3, Pick #78: WR Marquise Goodwin - Texas
Virgil replied to boyst's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I've slept on it and still not on board. This brings us up to 6 WR's if you could Brad Smith and Easley. We have other holes at G, TE, and CB that need to be filled. Also, no matter how fast he is or if he is Austin 2.0, I don't think these guys will work well in the NFL. Most of their yardage are hand-offs or passes behind the line of scrimmage that they bust into long runs. Linebackers in the NFL are much faster and I just don't see this translating. I just can't get on board with any project 3rd round pick who isn't even a proven at his position when we have other needs -
Before the last pick, we had 4. SJ, Woods, TJ, Brad Smith, and Easley. So this would make 6......We don't need 6 when we still have needs at G, CB, and TE
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Rd 3, Pick #78: WR Marquise Goodwin - Texas
Virgil replied to boyst's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Either way, this is a sign of a bad pick. If he is better than TJ, then we wasted that pick last year. If he's the same or worse, then we wasted a pick in the 3rd that could have been a starter. Also, and I know this will sound like a broken record, but Nix even said that they are excited to have a healthy Easley this year with a full off-season. This was a terrible pick and could have been on a G or CB, someone who we need and can contribute -
Ryan Nassib - QB - Syracuse
Virgil replied to BuffaloBillsForever's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Hey, I hope Nassib falls to the 3rd and we still take him. If I told most of the people that we used a mid round 1st and 3rd to get both of them, people would be happy. Don't have to say which pick was used on which -
Did we just piss of the media by duping them so badly?
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I meant to mention that too. Why is it that Nassib wasn't there but Manuel was? People believe what they want to believe and it's all about saving face in my humble opinion -
Did we just piss of the media by duping them so badly?
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Jay, You, Me, parking lot after school. Winner takes avatar -
Did we just piss of the media by duping them so badly?
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Oh I love the pick and the attention we are getting today. And I also believe that these guys are wrong 90% of the time. It's just the conviction that they spoke with before the draft about Nassib, Barkley, or how Austin was at the top of our board. I think we told them stuff, making them believe it was in confidence to make them look better for their job, and then absolutely crushed them -
Rd 1, Pick #16: QB EJ Manuel - Florida St.
Virgil replied to SDS's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
A few things: 1 - I love this kid. Just great personality. Has both parents . His highlight films look the best of everyone. And oh yeah, we got extra picks with him. 2 - We got our guy. Can't argue that. We had our pick of anyone and he was it. I wonder if other teams had him this high on their board? You can complain about Geno, Nassib, or Barkley all you want, but they are still available for a reason 3 - With this being their pick, people complaining need to let it go. This team is only as good as the people making the decisions. This will always be the case. We know they did their homework and if this is their guy, then you have to believe this was their best option. Especially if we passed on guys that Marrone have seen first hand. Now let's get him some weapons!!! -
I could be overthinking this, but I look at how much info was out there from every sports outlet about how we were going to take Nassib or Barkley, whichever was available after we tried to trade down. I mean, these guys were talking like it was a done deal. Then, when we took Manuel, it looked like more than shock. I looked like anger. McShay looked the most pissed like we just absolutely set him up. Don't get me wrong, I think the Bills played this brilliantly. But I just can't remember seeing such backlash.
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Rd 1, Pick #16: QB EJ Manuel - Florida St.
Virgil replied to SDS's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
EJ was the guy I was the most impressed with. I normally don't care what the "experts" say, but their negativity is kind of pissing me off. I do know this. The Bills did their homework and they got their pick of the litter. They got their guy. Hopefully, it really was a joint decision, not just the Nix show. Also, if these other guys were so much better, they wouldn't still be available -
"You're a piece of ****. I can't wait to divorce you." It's basically a win win
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What are you doing for the draft tonight?
Virgil replied to PaattMaann's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Upstairs watching it with the wife and kid downstairs while I scream and type in the Shoutwall -
Besides the top 2 OT's, is there a can't miss guy
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I'm hearing more and more that people aren't as high on Floyd as being projected. All about who his competition was. Just saying -
Besides the top 2 OT's, is there a can't miss guy
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I agree with where your heads at, but doesn't help us in my opinion -
Besides the top 2 OT's, is there a can't miss guy
Virgil posted a topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I am so burned out thinking about the draft I just want to sleep The one thing that I just can't get past is, what guy out there is a can't miss pick? Outside the top 2 OT's, which will be gone, if we "reach" or trade back, what are we missing out on? This is the first draft I can remember in a while where it seems that every single player has a knock on him. I've seen mocks where the same guys going 5-10 also go 20-25. No matter who they take, I can't see myself getting too upset because I don't have anyone that I feel like they are passing up on. The only thing that would make me angry would be if they pass on someone and hope he's there later, and miss on him. That's why I think I'm on the bandwagon of take your guy and don't care if it's a reach. -
I get that he can score from anywhere on the field and I see his speed. However, his reporting says that he can't line up on the outside due to his height and most of his highlights include handoffs. Another opportunity for him is drops. Dynamic player? Sure. But not what we need. I think there is plenty of round 2-3 wr talent between the guys from usc, Baylor, and tenn
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To do with what you wish: Current Rookie Class 1. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse 41 2. Matt Barkley, USC 30 3. E. J. Manuel, Florida State 28 3. Landry Jones, Oklahoma 28 5. Mike Glennon, N.C. State 26 6. Tyler Bray, Tennessee 24 6. Geno Smith, West Virginia 24 6. Zac Dysert, Miami (Ohio) 24 9. Matt Scott, Arizona 22 10. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas 20 Rookies from past few years Greg McElroy, Alabama- 43 Blaine Gabbert, Missouri- 42 Colin Kaepernick, Nevada- 37 Christian Ponder, Florida State- 35 Ricky Stanzi, Iowa- 30 Andy Dalton, TCU- 29 Ryan Mallett, Arkansas- 26 Cam Newton, Auburn- 21 Jake Locker, Washington- 20 2012 Rookie Class Andrew Luck, Stanford- 37 Ryan Tannehill, Texas A&M- 34 Kirk Cousins, Michigan State- 33 Russell Wilson, Wisconsin- 28 Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State- 27 Kellen Moore, Boise State- 26 Brock Osweiler, Arizona State- 25 Robert Griffin III, Baylor- 24 Current NFL QB Stars Eli Manning, Ole Miss 39 Aaron Rodgers, Cal 35 Tom Brady, Michigan 33 Peyton Manning, Tennessee 28 Drew Brees, Purdue 28 Joe Flacco, Delaware 27 Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio) 25
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I worry we take a QB @ 8 just to placate fans
Virgil replied to PromoTheRobot's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I would agree with this logic if there were a no-brainer pick at 8 that we were passing up. Any of these QB's are a risk, but so is anyone that will be left. The OT's seem to be the only sure thing in this draft and possible Jordan. We don't need and OT and Jordan will be gone. With that, if we are gonna fail, let's fail with a QB and know that we tried -
Ryan Nassib - QB - Syracuse
Virgil replied to BuffaloBillsForever's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I tell you, I'm absolutely torn on Nassib. He was my guy until about a month ago when I started doing all of my EJ research. Now, I keep hearing about the love for Barkley. I can't tell what's hype and what's legit. I'm going to overall trust the coaching staff. It's overall tough because there really isn't a guy that screams for #8 overall, but we need our QB. I wouldn't care if we get the wrong guy and try again next year. We need someone. And it would be terrible if we missed out on our guy because we waited until 41 or traded back into the 1st too late. I think I'm just beyond the point to think rationally about it. For Nassib, I feel like the consensus is that he's a smart kid, can make all the throws. However, lacks touch the short throws and puts too much air under the deep throws. However, he still makes them. To be honest, sounds a little bit like Fitz but with better downfield accuracy. What kills me is that, while I know it's only me watching tape, EJ made every single throw with the touch, velocity, and power you would want. But, there has to be a reason many aren't talking about him at 8. I'm fried. I'm just going to watch, relax the best I can, and hope Marrone gets his guy. -
The one thing that has made me re-think this strategy is if the Bills really do have two different guys they want. Let's say it's Nassib and Barkley. If, by the 8th pick, only Geno has been taken, then I say try to trade back. After the Jets, there really isn't a team that needs a QB after us, and they have way more holes than we do. So, even if they steal a QB from us, we could probably wait until the 32nd pick to grab our guy without much competition. I'm still on the Nassib or Manuel bandwagon, but if they think Barkley is their guy then so be it. I just am concerned with guys from USC and players that were projected as 1st overall, but then couldn't keep that up in the college ranks, so what makes you think he can step up in the NFL? But I don't pretend to know enough about that