Virgil

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There will be Updated the owners. If you asked for a new team or random, I gave you the first team available. However, if the original owner wants their team back, you’ll get bumped down to the next available team. Since we know we lost an owner, I let a new guy in already.

I feel like that would make some people change their mind. Would you all like to just volunteer for new teams? I’ll throw the Giants back in if that’s the case

Starting Friday at 5pm, we are going to do our second mock draft, but with no trades. Each player will have 8 hours to make their pick. If a pick is made after 8pm, the next pick will be due at 12pm the next day. The goal will be to complete at least one round, hopefully 2. 1 - Browns (NoPlaceToHyde) 2 - Giants (WhatDrought) 3 - Jets (joesixpack) 4 - Browns (NoPlaceToHyde) 5 - Broncos (Canadian Bills Fan) 6 - Colts (kdiggz) 7 - Bucs (CajunBillsBacker) 8 - Bears (TOBoy) 9 - 49ers (ChuckWagon) 10 - Raiders (RyanC883) 11 - Dolphins (section122) 12 - Bills (Forum Poll) 13 - Redskins (BillsPro) 14 - Packers (Dalton) 15 - Cardinals (TheBeane) 16 - Ravens (BuffaloHokie13) 17 - Chargers (patneiler) 18 - Seahawks (GunnerBill) 19 - Cowboys (EmotionallyUnstable) 20 - Lions (MAJBobby) 21 - Bengals (BuffaLoco) 22 - Bills (Forum Poll) 23 - Patriots (Aristocrat) 24 - Panthers (Wsam4031) 25 - Titans (Mr Wild) 26 - Falcons (Watkins101) 27 - Saints (frostbitmic) 28 - Steelers (xRushx) 29 - Jags (wppete) 30 - Vikings (TPS) 31 - Patriots (Aristocrat) 32 - Eagles (Blokestradamus)

Holy **** man. How are you possibly turning that post into something about a QB? Take the agenda somewhere else and let the man talk about his DT Please don’t feed the trolls

I don’t think they are going QB. Billicheat isn’t planning for life past Brady. They are walking out the door together

Allen would make a lot of sense to NE if Brady is two years out

Interesting to see them dump a WR when they also lost Amendola. Not a terrible deal for the Rams. They get their speed distraction after losing Sammy and don’t get the headache of Beckham. Wonder where he goes now....NE? Seems like a Moss move

How are you scammed when you overpay? If so, I have a lawsuit waiting for a lot of retailers

Are they doing day 1 also? My family got tix offered for day 2

You think so with the Panthers? I wonder how good that relationship is with what’s happened recently there and the transition of ownership

I knew I was forgetting someone. Maybe it’s because trades are more common, but it does feel like we have a large inner circle of friends now. Moreso than I can remember

Valid point. Future relationships are important. It’s hard to not think we have a good relationship with the Chiefs, Eagles, and Bengals. Hopefully the Giants enter that fold

The Broncos/Bills are the best example. If the Broncos want to trade back, they know we want a QB. What’s the line to make us think they are okay staying at 5 and is calling their bluff? It’s such a delicate negotiation to me. They want our picks, we want our QB if there. I’d hate to end with neither of us blinking and no one gets what they want.

This isn’t specially about us trading up with the Giants as much as it’s about Bean and Gettleman. Are there any honest conversations going on between GM’s or are they all just playing cloak and dagger? I recognize that this is there job and income, which is determined by their draft success. So, not that I think this will happen, if the Giants say they want to stay at 2 for Allen and the Bills trade ahead of them to steal him, that could cost Gettleman his job. I get that side. Even though they have a personal relationship. But on the flip, do you think there’s conversations like: Bills - You looking to trade out of 2? Giants - We have a guy we want, if he falls, we are staying and taking him. If he’s gone, we will trade. Bills - We will offer you _______ Giants - okay, we will see what happens. I feel like there has to be a certain level of honesty out there or people might miss out. You have to show some good faith to make someone be more inclined to trade with you. While it won’t happen, if the Broncos don’t want a QB, I feel like the Giants, Broncos, and Bills could all make a trade together that benefits each other, but they don’t want to show their hand to each other. Broncos have holes, Giants want guys who will be there at 5, and the Bills have picks. If either of them want QB’s, it’s moot. If they don’t, it makes almost too much sense. It’s just frustrating to think about what probably won’t happen because people can’t be transparent with what they want. But I get why.

Trading up to 7 makes no sense unless you are happy with any of the top 4 QBs. Even then, Denver or someone can just jump ahead of you at 2 or 4 and take your guy. You only trade to 7 in the moment. Also, making trades with two separate teams in two different trades is a terrible idea. You would need to do a 3-team trade at once to not get hosed. Right now, teams trading up are overpaying by at least 200 points. So to execute two trades would cost you at least 400 extra points. If you’re going to do that, then just trade up higher straight up

Army of Darkness Piranha Barry Gordon’s Last Dragon

Hard to pay much attention to a list that has a Guard as the #1 prospect.

Sorry, clicked on the wrong bookmark.

I’d be all over both of these guys

Vince also had that historic bowl game in his favor. Probably one of the best single performances in a college game I can remember seeing.

I hope we trade for him, let Tre punch him in the sack a few times, then cut him

If we hit on 5 of our top 6 picks in this draft, then maybe. The questions are just as much about McCarron as they are about what we do in this draft. If both do above average, then yes.

In fairness, he did go to Louisville. They can't even hire prostitutes the right way

Why do I feel like Allen is either going to go #1 overall or drop out of the top 15. This kid's offseason is something to behold