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OK, fair POV He wouldn’t be the first QB whose performance was significantly downgraded by contact with McDaniels

Well, I do, but that may have nothing to do with what’s best for the Bills in the playoff picture.

Say more about this, because I have the impression that Saleh is a man of pretty deep integrity and would have sorted this kind of thing before he signed on. I could be totally wrong of course Do you really trust Derek Carr as a starting QB? He can play brilliantly but he can also play ….um, not brilliantly

I can agree with that. We need an upgrade at WR this off season, maybe 2 upgrades To be fair, that was the same problem both Beasley and John Brown had against the more physical, press man coverage teams in 2019. There’s only so much a short, 170-180 lb receiver can do to compete for a ball with a bigger, heavier back. Davis, though, has the 6’2” 210 lb frame that he should be able to compete for contested balls. Persuasive!

A number of both Davis and McKenzie’s completions are secondary route concepts aka “scramble drills” aka the receiver “helping the QB” by giving him a target when the play breaks down

They’re putting Shakir on the field a fair amount recently - 16,12 , 22, 25 snaps or 20-39% They have to be liking something he’s doing for them - maybe blocking down field? You can’t expect a lot of blocking from McKenzie, Cole, and Brown or as Beane once said “the Smurfs” OK, I saw the glimpse that time. In the white puffer jacket. You see what I mean about Saffold though? Seriously, he looks like a TE OK, who is it then?

Did he? Didn’t see him in the pics BTW pretty sure that’s Roger Saffold walking next to Josh Allen, and if so holy Toledo it explains how he gets pushed around, he looks no bigger than Allen. He does not look like a top OLman

Hi. Can you share the source of this data on INT for every QB in the league, fumbles for every QB in the league, QB rating for every QB in the league, since week 8? I’d really love the chance to review these data for the entire league. Thanks (PS not to doubt you, but that seems so startling that if it’s true, I tend to believe I’d be seeing and hearing about it all over the place)

Poyer had a pick and was totally robbed of it vs. the Jets We had 2 forced fumbles/recoveries against the Jets Dane Jackson (I think) forced a fumble against the Bears OK I won’t count the Peterman interception

I don’t know if Allen had a concussion, or got his “throwing engine” messed up a bit with some of the dings and hits he took running - little shoulder sprain, not enough to go on injury report that week which players loathe and try everything to avoid. But there was a big difference in Allen’s throws and completion % between the 1st and 2nd half, and it wasn’t all on “adjustments” - Allen was throwing balls into the dirt, off target, etc.

I would like this 1000 times if I could.

LOL Minnesota one snap with 10, one snap with 12 - it averages out to 11 I’m sorry to hear that. I hoped he’d do well enough to sucker the Airplanes into thinking they Had Their Guy

I dunno about “blueprint” - what exact “blueprint” do you think GB gave the Jets? Losing Poyer during the GB game and having Milano injured during the GB game meant that our starting safeties vs the Jets were Damar Hamlin and Jaquan Johnson and our starting OLB in place of Milano was Terrel Bernard. That’s a problem, but it’s not exactly a blueprint GB handed the Jets. What the Bills learned is that Bernard isn’t ready to play LB for Milano and losing both Poyer AND Hyde is a step too far. We signed Klein and traded for Dean Marlow to have different alternatives. The other “blueprint” is that we’re gonna struggle if Josh Allen throws so many stupid interceptions.

Announcers/pundits seem giddy that Tampa Bay/Brady are in the playoffs and even GB/Rodgers look plausible

24-3 lead in the 1st half looks pretty promising for a GB win.

I did not have Denver 24 KC 27 and Denver driving with 4 min left I did have “if it’s by some miracle close, Denver will choke and KC will win it”

That and "yips" which...does not mean what some here seem to think it means Personally, I think a big difference for Allen this season has been the route running savvy and hands of last year's vs this year's WR Manny Sands + Beasley >> Gabe Davis + (McKenzie + Shakir) That's an 👀 test thing of course. All the receivers seem to looove them some Chad Hall as their WR coach, but too often I see WR too close to each other on what look like route running mistakes (because I can't believe an actual NFL-level passing game coordinator would design a play like that)

No one's pretending any such thing Both matter When you defend someone's post that it's been a long time since Allen has been "banging on all cylinders" and he's regressed this season (regression is a statistical term) with "Remember when he used to throw the ball to Diggs instead of no name Bear linebackers ? " .... you call into question whether you, in fact, do either - - since he was throwing the ball to Diggs, a lot, like, IDK 2 weeks ago

According to 506 sports this is the game foisted upon large swaths of the US https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2022&wk=17 Yeah, I get your point that it has implications for the AFC playoff seeding, but does anyone think that Denver has a chance? It's just so painful to watch Denver's offense.

In NWE, perhaps? I think an argument could be made that the Detroit games were affected by weather. The Bills had a very unusual practice week prior to the Sunday game, a very unusual trip to/return home from the game, and then had to turn around and play on a short week. So while the games themselves weren't affected by weather, the game prep certainly was

Considering both our punter and our kicker commented on how variable and strong the winds were, if Josh says the wind carried that ball, seems credible. Diggs had 5 receptions on 9 targets vs. Miami, IIRC at least 2 of those he could have caught. 3 receptions on 5 targets vs. the Jets, 1 scored drop. I think people see what they want to see.

Hi. This is a message board where we....discuss the Bills, including what's said about them (good and bad) and our reactions to it. Please explain the difference between filling the purpose of this message board, and being "triggered" I'll hang up and listen.

Hi. Point out the regression. Thanks. While you're there, perhaps you could explain what "regression" means to you.

This matches the "code" translation for what Greg Cosell said: Burrow is Very Aggressive throwing outside. Translation: he throws 50/50 balls to his WR down the sideline, and lets his 6'4" 220 lb receiver bail him out. I was surprised watching Burrow how many balls he threw where I said "wow, that coulda been picked". It kind of reminds me of Allen in 2020, where he was really really trusting his guys to come down with it.

I'm not quite sure what this means. If we're talking about the #1 seed, Bills win = Bills keep it. If the Bengals win, and the Chiefs defeat the Broncos, the Bengals become the #2 seed with the same W/L record and the F2F tiebreaker. The Bengals do not control whether they become the #1 seed, so while they improve if they win, they don't have as much control