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Yes. The story is they initially got Seabiscuit a goat, and he responded by picking it up with his teeth and throwing it over the stall door. Potential new QB signings for the Bills, Beware.

Not a salary move

Could be wrong, but I think he'll have suitors and won't want to wait

That's what Joe B says.

Well, I would be in favor of bringing in Kirksey, so I'd love to see the source/tweet/X Kirksey love:

Hopefully not too massive. Since we play a nominal 4-3, we want to save our massive for DT and OL

OK, no need for those weekly game day threads. Someone on the Internet has Spoken Oh, Is He Now? Who reported this?

Holy Guacamole Batman! We kept 10 DLmen (plus Von Miller on PUP) and 11, count them, ELEVEN, DB Yowza. Klein is a vested vet and does not have to clear waivers. Spector will go on IR and Klein will come back tomorrow (IMO). IIRC, they usually give the guys who do them a "friendly" that way, a little "cookie" in the form of guaranteed $$ or a little extra bonus.

Sheesh, that's gotta sting. A couple years ago, guy was drafted in the 2nd round 61 overall. Today he just got traded for a 2025 6th round pick (not even a 2024 pick!) and the Bills had to give change in the form of a 2025 7th rounder. Personally I think Beane got fleeced a bit, but likely the rest of the league was aware that it was a bit of a "fire sale" since someone had to be cut.

Logically, the Philadelphia Eagles should not have won the 2017 Superbowl since they went 2-1 in the regular season with Foles...and then 3-0 in post-season

Clearly we on this little board can not match the football wit and wisdom of this WGR caller: I don't know who Paul is, but I must raise him one: 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Throwing elbow Unclear if he was injured during the Steelers game where he stunk up the joint, or whether he stunk up the joint because he went into the game with an injury Bills QB Suffers Elbow Injury Amid Disastrous Preseason Performance | Heavy.com

So we should start referring to Kyle Allen as "Pumpkin"?

"Strain" is the generic term for excessive stretch and/or tearing of a muscle, just like "sprain" is the generic term for excessive stretch and/or tearing of ligament. Like sprains, strains are graded according to severity from Grade 1 (NBD) to Grade 3 (serious injury, may require surgical repair) My guess from the duration would be he had a Grade 2 strain, meaning it hurt and swelled and needed several weeks rest, but not surgery. "Healthy" for a football player returning from injury is a relative term; he likely is "healthy" in the sense of being able to practice now, but he's going to have to get into playing shape. And for a 30 year old guy, injuries do tend to linger.

Let's wait and see what we actually did.

He was indeed. But I would argue that the Bills at least got some value out of the 1607 snaps and 29 starts he played for us over 3 years. They weren't uniformly bad; in fact, enough of them were neutral or positive that Beane was lured into thinking it was all injury probs and he would improve going into 2021. Boogie Basham played 590 snaps and had 0 starts. Most notably when he got his snaps in the playoffs due to injuries, he persuaded Beane to pursue DL in FA

Y to both

Kirksey injured a hammy and missed most of training camp, including all 3 preseason games. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/what-led-to-kirkseys-release-from-texans/ar-AA1fUg5y

The people saying "center isn't that important they just need to snap the ball to the QB" need to re-boot; I thought the critical role of the C in setting protections and communicating changes in protection was well-known by now FWIW, Humphrey pre-draft said he could play G. What he had to back that up, I don't know. Maybe the Bills thought "not enough evidence there". Or, maybe Beane honestly felt Cody Ford could still "be that guy" in 2021. I don't know.

Pelissero says "as part of", has not said that's the entirety of the compensation. I will say that Boogie Basham at pick 61 when Creed Humphrey was drafted 2 picks later has been "***** in my grits" for 3 years. Fortunately, I don't eat grits at home, being, in fact, a DamnedYankee. But still. I've just thrown down that I thought we should have tried if Humphrey could play G and had a C in waiting. But if you're talking about that fumble in the EZ, I'm pretty sure that was on Josh.

Maybe we should look at the whole draft, or at least the early days? 2019: 1. Ed Oliver - can ball, just re-upped 2. Cody Ford - Looked promising his rookie season. I think injuries ruined him, it happens. 3. Devin Singletary - solid RB for 4 years behind "meh" OL, solid pass pro for 3. Got our Round 3 worth from him. 3. Knox - quality player, re-signed Early round hit rate: 2/4, 3/4 if you count Singletary which I think one should 2020: 1. (Stefon "I am Him" Diggs) 2. AJ Epenesa - 6.5 sacks, 10 QB hits last season. If he can improve on that this season, we've got something. Since McD rotates DL, #4 playing 40% of snaps. 3. Zack Moss - brought Nyheim Hines in trade, who locked down KR/PR until his unfortunate close encounter with a JetSki 4. Gabe Davis - #2 WR for the team. He ain't Tee Higgins, Devonta Smith, or Jalen Waddle, but he wasn't drafted in the 1st/high 2nd either. Solid value in the 4th. Hit rate: 2/4 (3/4 if you count Diggs) 2021: 1. Greg Rousseau - 8 sacks 14 QB hits last season. Playing 49-56% of snaps. Looks promising. 2. Boogie Basham - just traded, we'll see what he brought. 3. Spencer Brown - jury is still out. has not locked down a spot. 1/3, maybe 2/3 if Spencer improves. 2022: 1. Kaiir Elam - I don't know that I'd bet money on that #4 CB slot being locked down with him, but that could be me. Has a learning curve. 2. James Cook - looking promising 3. Terrell Bernard - was competing for starting MLB. We'll see. Too soon to tell, might be 1/3, might be 3/3 when the dust settles 2023: 1. Dalton Kincaid - looking promising 2. O'Cyrus Torrance - looking promising 3. Dorian Williams - has a learning curve, despite folks wanting to hand him the MLB gig Too soon to tell, might be 2/3, might be 3/3 Kinda bugs me when a guy looks at 6 out of 9-11 picks 🤷‍♀️ and also lists as a problem, a 3rd round RB who gave us 4 solid seasons.

He's not. It's announced he'll stay on PUP, meaning he must miss the 1st 4 games.

I'll put this here. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-practice-squad-salary-eligibility-rules-2023/vuvavtn3mbkq68spwkb5k8pz Of the 16 players, 6 can have "no limit on the number of accrued seasons" Just adding information to your information. Interesting on Phillips.

Case Keenum just signed a 2 year $6.25M contract with Houston, $4M guaranteed, in March. Phillips is a guard. Galvin is a rookie UDFA, so there it will just come down to whether we like him more than we like Gouraige and whether he'd rather live on Detroit's PS or ours; he's not likely to be The Answer at reserve OT.