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2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:
Have you seen all the Cleveland games, or are you just repeating something you read?
Most of these ‘drops’ are hilarious lol. Watson throwing the ball at his feet when he’s wide open and nonsense like that
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1 hour ago, PoundingDog said:
I will taper some expectations on Cooper, just like McDermott was probably doing yesterday when asked. Is there any WR brought in mid season for Josh that worked out great right away, or even later? Diggs, Beasley, John Brown all had full camp to work out the details with Josh. Benjamin didn't quite work out even though he became the go-to guy, partly due to Josh being a rookie. Beasley and Brown came back a couple of years ago and didn't do anything, maybe they were really washed at that time.
Having Cooper learning the playbook is one thing; building chemistry with Josh is another, and that might take awhile. Chances are Josh's first INT (I know it's a taboo to even say it, like you don't mention it when someone has a no hitter going on) this season will likely be on targeting Cooper at some point.
There’s evidence of cooper doing it moving from Oakland to Dallas which id think is even more important. After the trade he played 9 games with Dallas and had over 700 yards and 6 TDs. He had two games with less than 7 targets in those 9 games and the first two games weren’t one of them
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21 minutes ago, Process said:
Fully healthy this week other than Milano? Things are looking up.
That was the big win in the jets game…everybody stayed healthy. Shakir got a pretty light day too to ease him back in
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That’s an instant add in fantasy football and immediate team name change to ‘mevis and butthead’ if he makes the team 😂
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14 hours ago, Mister Defense said:
Wow, that is a very depressing take! Lol, as I read it again.
I don't think that will happen with Bubba! He is NOT Edwards.
I never understood the hype some spouted for Edwards as he was a fairly low rated safety, in the mid 50s for PFF while Poyer was in the low 80s last year. That number would indicate a back up caliber player, who could fill in when needed, as he did in KC.
So, bring on Bubba..
Poyer was trash in pff most of his non buffalo time too
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23 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
KC Blitzes your doors off, And Wins super bowls.
And egregiously holds on the back end so their blitz gets home but they only call it when Brady is on the other sideline 🤣.
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21 minutes ago, balln said:
They’re top 10 D. 9th DVOA D
Oh yea they’re top 10 and definitely good but if you looked at just the season yardage stats without factoring in opponents you’d think they were a heck of a lot closer to 1 than 10
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10 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
It was a hard balancing and then he had to swivel and go. Many receivers would simply have gone out of bounds or gone down. It was a great play. Let's not diminish it.
Oh yea it’s a great play but can cooper not do that? Like how is that a mic drop for diggs vs cooper is what I’m saying
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11 minutes ago, Billl said:
That’s a ridiculous hot-take. The best season of Cooper’s career would maybe be equal to the worst season Diggs had in Buffalo. Diggs was a first team All-pro in 2020 and second team in 2022. He was a top 5 WR in the league. In no universe is a 30 year old Amari Cooper better than that.
Diggs’ stats got a josh Allen boost for sure though and cooper hasn’t had that opportunity yet so that method of comparison is pretty misleading
The qbs cooper has played for have not been nearly as good as what diggs had in buffalo
not trying to say you’re wrong for preferring diggs necessarily it’s just not that ridiculous of a take
2 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:I always go back to the Minnesota Miracle because it's kind of an argument ender (and you simply can't leave it out), but I will say this in Cooper's favor: he had to play one game with the truly awful Connor Cook slinging it to him, and he had 2 catches for 10 yards on 10 targets. Carr had broken his leg a couple of weeks before and the 12-4 Raiders were stuck with an absolute dog at backup QB.
I don’t really see it as an argument ender…I don’t see how cooper or any other good wr wouldn’t have made the same play in the same situation. The defender mistimed the hit and had to go super low to avoid an obvious pi
that’s gotta be top 10 worst plays by an nfl defender of all time
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15 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Postseason comparison
Diggs:
14 games (13 starts), 69 catches for 909 yards; 13.2 ypr, 4 TDs, one BIG 2-pt conversion (13 seconds game), 64.9 ypg average, 61.1% catch rate; 4 rushes for 21 yards; 1 fumble
Cooper:
5 games; 25 catches for 304 yards; 12.2 ypr; 2 TDs; 60.8 ypg average; 58.1% catch rate; 0 rushes for 0 yards; 1 fumble
And of course there's the Minnesota Miracle play by Diggs, one of the greatest NFL postseason plays of the last decade.
Not trying to say cooper is way better post season for sure but this is a bit misleading, I feel like the bulk of those diggs playoff stats came in 2020 and he’s been mostly ehhhh since.
cooper has had one playoff game with under 59 receiving yards in his career. Diggs def no shows at a higher rate I’d say
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2 hours ago, BillsVet said:
McD has a track record of offering backhanded compliments to players and abrasiveness toward assistants. It's his MO and by now if that's not obvious I don't know what to tell you. I'm sure he also doesn't like having a franchise QB get more credit for their success than him. The Saleh comparison doesn't carry because he's a full-on meathead. McD is more subtle than he'll ever be, but is prepared to respond when criticism comes.
And based on what's been said all off-season, they believed that post-Diggs, they could feature an offense that worked without a top-end WR. They spent the the off-season talking about "everybody eats" because they had serious issues after the draft with their WR group. And that showed against Baltimore and Houston, likely playoff teams.
And then they have to trade for Cooper because almost all the metrics and film point to their receivers not being good enough as most every objective person could see. There were some bruised ego's having to make that move and because they heard it from media about how badly the offense went into the garbage without better WRs.
A lot of this is subjective and not worth debating but I really do think beane was eyeing this cooper move since the offseason and waited for terrible Deshaun Watson to tank coopers value a bit. We started out hot so it didn’t seem like as glaring of a need immediately too and honestly they pushed the jets defense around without cooper or diggs about as good as they ever have but were hampered by stupid pre snap penalties/dubious unnecessary roughness penalties in the second half.
obviously they’re not gonna come out and say ‘yea our wrs are butt please anyone trade us one’ in the lead up to this season even if it was an internal concern 😂 I don’t know what you guys really are expecting out of press conferences from reading some of these posts today haha
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I think there’s an interesting debate if we’re assuming ‘highly motivated Diggs’ vs cooper in a contract year but in reality it’s gotta be cooper and it’s not even close.
diggs was straight up checked out and fit right in with our other ‘pretty good wrs that can’t beat sticky man coverage’
this whole situation is intriguing I feel like beane had his eye on this trade probably since the offseason…I wonder if he knew the browns would flop and amari’s trade value would take a bit of a hit
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20 minutes ago, NoName said:
I'm watching the Facility (on FS1), and they are saying that Amari Cooper will be the best receiver that Josh has ever played with. Is Amari a better receiver than Diggs?
It’s definitely debatable…I think Amari knows the game better and is more cerebral so he will be a little more protected from diminishing returns as he ages. He strikes me more as he’ll embrace the savvy veteran role that knows how to set dbs up by just being a smart route runner whereas Diggs was more a relying on physical skills guy.
Currently I’d definitely take him over Diggs
prime Diggs vs prime cooper is tough though without visiting the alternate universe where prime cooper played with josh lol. I think Dak is one of the most overrated players in the nfl so Amari has never really had a top shelf qb and he still performs
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2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:
My cliff notes would be that he doesnt sound interested in us getting Cooper and it sounds like the same thing as the last few years in that they wont even know how to use the player or work him into the offense.
This is so ridiculous lol I’m sorry. You don’t spend a third on a midseason rental unless you think they catapult you to contender status and they will be heavily involved down the stretch. Some twisting of words in a press conference will never disprove that fact.
the Hines trade was essentially player for player and Zach moss wasn’t really adding any value so it was more of a ‘it’s low risk but if it works the ceiling is high’ type move that didn’t work out and not at all comparable to this situation. You can’t misuse Amari cooper lol it’s pretty much impossible. If anything, I think the bills offense was TOO reliant on their wr1 (when we had one) to a fault which is what caused the midseason shake up last year.
all that talk about Adam Henry to me means we did our due diligence deciding cooper can get acclimated quickly enough for the deal to be worth it so I feel like this press conference said the exact opposite of what the mcd hate train is trying to make it sound like 🤣
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43 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
I mean maybe after seeing what they did Nyheim Hines his expectations are tempered. Didn't seem to have an issue integrating Rasul tho...
I think a major reason cooper was brought in midseason is he’s a very smart player, has familiarity with Adam Henry, and is in a contract year so he has all the tools to get acclimated quickly and the mental motivation to do so with a small pinch of ‘keep him away from the chiefs’
I don’t know that beane spends the draft pick without all those factors. Probably would’ve let him rot in Cleveland and then made a run at him in free agency if we didn’t think he could be a big contributor this year
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2 hours ago, BillsVet said:
McD comes off as a petulant child with comments like this because it's not really about showing support for the guys in the room for him. It's because his grand vision for the offense effectively failed by Week 4 and required this move. And Beane did what needed to be done to fix that in-season.
If anything, you'd think McD would humble himself, thank Beane for making that move, talk about improving and admit this offense experiment (even secretly) could not work regardless of the QB. Kinda wonder if a rift is developing between the GM and HC is developing, if slowly.
You guys know you can dislike mcd without having to wildly reach for unreasonable reasons to attack him right haha like there’s plenty he’s actually done to criticize. This just comes off as petty
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41 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:
Awesome. Sarcasm instead of talking about it. Joe Marino of lock on Bills pod cast talks about it. There was also twitter posts right into our game day feed talking about it as well.
Pretty sure Shakir was on a pitch count due to injury…that was the least snaps he got all year by a landslide. Kincaid got 80% of the snaps which is pretty close to the highest snap percentage by a bills pass catcher all year. This is one of those situations where one specific anecdotal instance does not tell the whole story
I don’t remember the play specifically, was Knox in as an extra blocker or anything like that?
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11 hours ago, HansLanda said:
I am saying going forward. Dion will be under the scope by the zebras even more.
Eh he didn’t do much of anything. One of the jets players straight up cursed out a ref to his face which will be the one they remember from that game
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Just now, sunshynman said:
What we probably see is them bring in a couple kickers, but ultimately stinking with Bass. I wish they would at least put a kicker on the PS. Maybe having that treat there will snap Bass out of his funk. He should also be seeing a sports therapist. Maybe his teammates need to help him get laid!
Stinking with bass is so funny because it feels like a typo for sticking but it still works
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12 minutes ago, stevewin said:
The outrage over this is a bit ridiculous IMO
Its nothing more than coach speak supporting the "follow the process" mantra and the '1/11' culture. Just emphasizing the whole no one player is bigger than the team 'mindset'. It's a big nothingburger.
When Cooper shows up they'll start working with him and then assess how and when he'll fit in. Why would anyone want it any other way?
The outrageous is very ridiculous lol the anti mcd side absolutely knows they’re twisting his words on this one.. they were sure we weren’t picking up a wr because our gm is supposedly terrible and need something to complain about still to sour the mood
the whole ‘fangirl over your new wr’ routine that some of them apparently were expecting has a pretty high percentage of pissing off your current players who have been working hard. If I was Garrett Wilson I’d be pretty pissed with how the davante Adams stuff went down
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10 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
spags cellmate
3-3 in 6 weeks and winning a home division game would be a large part of the best hypothetical jets day of the decade? 🤣. That is very sad
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7 minutes ago, DCofNC said:
The games don’t matter, it’s the lack of time in the system that’s a concern, especially with McDummy making it a point to tell us all not to expect anything from him before he gets here. I won’t be shocked if he see the field less than Hollins for the remainder of the year.
The comp pick is a fair point, but if Edmunds didn’t get us a 3rd, I find it very unlikely Cooper will.
This is like scooby doo where they pull the mask off and figure out who the villain is 😂. You just hit me with the surprise ‘this was a mcd bashing convo all along!’ Lol
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1 minute ago, DCofNC said:
The value issue is his age and he is here for 11 games. Thats a lot to give up for less than a one season rental. The contract is what makes it “worth” it. It’s a gamble to win now, just hope it works.
Yeah for 20+M a year FYI
I believe they get a comp 3rd likely if he leaves in free agency. There’s little no gamble here it is an absolute no brainer
Your logic is also a bit odd to me personally but that could be a how I look at it thing lol you’re picking him up for the playoff push. 6 regular seasons games he missed really don’t effect the value proposition at all imo
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1 minute ago, BufBills83 said:
I think McDermott is just saying that so that it doesn't give off the impression that Cooper is the savior of the season. That makes it seem like the players that are here don't matter as much. I'm fine with what he said.
That’s exactly what it is lol. The lengths the anti mcd crowd will go to twist obvious coachspeak into whatever they want is kind of sad lol
he deserves plenty of criticism for onfield decision making but this is just ridiculous.
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The difference between the Bills and Chiefs is Chris Jones.
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Von was lookin good this year too I guess we’ll see what happens post suspension.