Chaos
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1 minute ago, Gregg said:
Bottom line the core around Allen is changing.
Do you expect this new core to be better than the old core?
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22 minutes ago, Gregg said:
I want to see how the draft goes. Window #1 to win a Super Bowl with Allen has closed. Window #2 is now opening. They need to get younger and add more skill especially around Josh on offense. I am looking forward to the draft with 11 picks. Hopefully Beane can hit a HR with his picks.
Why do you think there are multple windows?
If there are multiple windows, why did window #1 close?
Why is window #2 opening?
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6 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
Players kept stepping up?
I mean, yeah. But it showed up. How did the DBs look against the Chiefs? The LBs?
We weren't the same defense as we'd been in the first 6 - 8 games, we just weren't.
Bills defense was a bit disappointing the entire season. Four of their worst efforts were in the first 9 weeks. Patriots, Broncos (12 men on the field being the seasons low point), Jaguars, Bengals games.
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Well we finished top 8 again last year. Most any roster with Josh Allen at QB, is a top 8 roster. I think the real question is "Have we taken a step forward?"
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9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
In the AFC? At least the Chiefs, Bengals, Texans and Ravens. I think we have been a top 3 roster in the AFC the last 4 seasons. We are now 5th or 6th IMO.
Thank you for the feedback. I won't argue one by one, but it seems like the Chiefs have gaps at receiver, and in the secondary as much as the Bills, as well as issue on the offensive line.
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9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
Talent. Edge rush. Receiving. Secondary.
It seems to me all teams have gaps in talents. Which teams do you think have fewer gaps?
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21 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I think an AFCCG in 2024 would probably be a bit of overachievement.
Why? what is lacking?
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7 hours ago, Beck Water said:
Durrrr if the coaches thought Edwards was a better LG than McGovern......wait for it....they would have started him at LG
Was and will are different.
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9 hours ago, Beck Water said:
So by many metrics, the Buffalo Bills have had an excellent offense. Rank 3, 2, and 6 on points for 21, 22, and 23 respectively.
But looking at "who had the fewest punts?" is probably NOT a sufficient metric for looking at whether the Bills have a "chain moving" problem, especially when the goal the Bills are seeking isn't "top offense" but "Championship"
Other metrics that should be considered:
-# of FG vs TD (eg are drives stalling out due to failure to get a 1D?)
-# of turnovers
In 2023, of the top-10 scoring teams, the Bills actually attempted the 3rd fewest FG (49ers and Lions had fewer)
So that's not a factor.
However, of the top-10 scoring teams, the Bills had the 2nd most turnovers - 28. (That's #7 for turnovers, overall)
Five of those offenses had 9 or 10 or more fewer turnovers. Only the #10 scoring offense (the Browns) had more.
Three of the offenses with fewer turnovers (Cowboys, 49ers, and Ravens) ranked above the Bills for scoring.
You might say "that's a ball security/decision making problem, not a chain-moving problem", but I would argue that it's related: some of the 'bad decisions' or putting the ball at risk that result in turnovers, result from getting into 3rd and long and trying to force the ball, which is a form of chain-moving problem.
The Bills had the same turnovers in 2022 when we had the #2 scoring offense, but in 2021, when Beasley was still here, we had 22 turnovers and were 17th in the league, and in 2020 when the Bills had the Diggs, Brown, Beasley trio, we also had 22 turnovers and Josh had 10 INT vs. 18 INT in 2023.
So I do think there might be something to the notion that "having a reliable outlet he trusts to move the chains" has been a gap.
TL;DR Number of punts alone is not a good metric for whether or not the Bills have a chain-moving problem.
Disagree. Also, fundamentally none of the Bills playoff problems are the fault of the offensive talent.
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17 hours ago, folz said:
That is huge for the team...keeping the chains moving, something we have missed since Beasley left
KIncaid had a fine rookie season, and projects to be a top tier tight end in the future.
However, the "moving the chains problem since Beasely" is a myth, based on statistics,
In 2021 the Bills had the fifth fewest punts in the NFL (chiefs had least). In 2022 the Bills had the fewest punts in the NFL. In 2023 the Bills had the second fewest punts in the NFL. The Bills did not have problem moving the chains.
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5 hours ago, H2o said:
Greed. Most self-absorbed billionaires are driven by it.
Envy is America's biggest problem.
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1 hour ago, reddogblitz said:
I think it's obvious he isn't working as hard on football in off season as he once was
Whats obvious is the simple fact that you haven't any idea of what he is doing in the off-season.
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7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I don't know. But I really hope he works hard this offseason. I feel like Josh being dialled in is the difference between this team being in a lot of one score games and us winning more comfortably.
How is it possible to disagree with “my understanding “. Separately double check your sarcasm detection system
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2 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Ask yourself what McDermott does to be a better HC? He is the sole reason Allen is not a SuperBowl champion.
Allen is the only reason the Bills are competitive.
Replace McDermott with any HC and this team still wins the division.
My understanding is that any other head coach means entering a 20 year playoff drought, with or without Josh Allen.
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Its not clear what the most clownish part of this thread is. Here are the nominees:
- Anyone posting in this thread knows what the optimal off-season workout for Josh Allen
- Anyone posting in this thread knows what Josh Allen's actual off-season workouts actually consist of.
- Despite not know 1 or 2 above, being certain Allen isn't working hard enough
- Somehow the Bills playoff failures are connected to Allen not working hard enough in the off-season,
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7 hours ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
That's kind of like saying on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the worst, Haack is a 2 and Martin is a 3 and it's not a log scale either. All I remember last season was all the complaints about what a poor punter Martin was.
Together they could be five.
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18 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:
The "facts" you are using don't support your argument. That's the problem. You're trying to say that because they invested in players, that should prove that the strategy is flawed. No one is denying that they've made investments. How many of those players have been playing like all-pros? How many of those players make huge plays that one time you need them to int he playoffs? Certainly not enough of them and I'd argue none of them.
Looking at their top 100 picks over the last few years, you'll find few players who are game changers.
2023:
Dorian Williams (non-factor thus far)
2022:
Kaiir Elam (Bust)
Terell Bernard (looks good year 2 but too early to say if he'll be a playoff factor due to injury)
2021:
Greg Rousseau (non-impact starter)
Boogie Basham (Bust)
2020:
AJ Epenesa (terrible for two seasons and then good not great for two. Rotational player)
2019:
Ed Oliver (Underachieved most of his career until 2022 season. Non-factor against KC)
Notable Recent Free Agent signings/Trades
Rasul Douglas (Looked like a beast until the KC game, but was injured and clearly hampered)
Von Miller (has been ineffeective/unavailable the last year and a half since injury)
Leonard Floyd (Early season beast with 10.5 sacks but only 1 in his final 8 games. Non factor in the playoffs)
We Don't have a Chris Jones, Lararius Sneed, or even a George Karlaftis on this team that are there to make the play you need to have. With a healthy Douglas and Milano maybe we aren't that far away but we probably still need a game-wrecker that's better than all of them if you ever hope to stop Mahomes when it matters.
The investments that they've made on offense to surround Allen have borne far more fruit:
Diggs (top 10+ player every year of his buffalo career. Top 5 prior to this season)
Cook (Top 10 weapon out of the backfield)
Kincaid (could be a top 5 TE by the end of next season)
Gabe Davis (limited player with inconsistencies but still put up big numbers. We needed to upgrade here and we already have)
Khalil Shakir (Sophmore season would have been called a breakout if he had more targets.
On Affense you have 3 legitimate game breakers in Allen, Diggs, and Cook with Kincaid a high chance to be a 4th and Shakir possibly a step below that. I don't know what you want. I won't turn my nose up at one more weapon, but realistically that's all there's room for there.
On defense we can can conceivably upgrade at nearly every position. Now they probably won't try to go and get a Chris Jones or a Fred Warner, or even a Lajarius Sneed, but all of those guys would make our team better than they are right now in a possibly meaningful way. If you can find one guy in the draft that can shut down Kelce, maybe that's all that's missing. If you can find one DL that can bring the extra juice to force Mahomes into a bad decision on 3rd down, maybe that's enough.
If you're resigning yourself to "well mahomes is always going to score", then you're already resigning yourself to losing, because Allen isn't that level that's going to score every single time either. He can do it once in a while, like we saw in 13 seconds, and then we still lose because our defense can't stop Mahomes. The math on that looks terrible. KC wins every time Josh doesn't go perfect and they also win every time Josh does go perfect but KC goes last.
I already made the point earlier that you casually ignored, but no amount of open receivers against KC completes the 3rd down pass that Josh didn't make that ended the game for us. Even bigger than that, is no amount of WR help there would prevent Mahomes from marching down the field and scoring again (as you are agreeing with me here that he would do) had Josh completed that pass. The right play there was throwing to a wide open Diggs for a first down, running out the clock and scoring without giving KC a chance to win. But that's not how we roll, and until we do, expect the same results.
Allen is that level.
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36 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
His role is much more difficult to fill than you make it out to be. He's basically playing hybrid LB/CB depending on the play call. He's constantly put in vulnerable situations because McDermott knows he can handle it. Once you remove him, you get the same problem we got when Tre White went down - McDermott has to compromise other parts of his defense to cover the area that the missing player is usually covering.
I stand by my earlier comment.
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2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
A certain defense that can't beat KC in the playoffs, cant stop KC for 13 seconds, and can't beat Cincinnati period with Joe B at QB.
It's past time for a change, but that's not coming any time soon.
good point
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I think re-signing Taron will allow the Bills to finish top 8 again in 2024. If they had to replace Taron, I also think the Bills would finish top 8 in 2024. Not completely sure this is the best use of 10mm of cap space.
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21 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:
Under the circumstances the Bills have had a top 5 off season so far. They re-signed the two guys from the team they had to; they added a high quality offensive weapon, they solidified their coaching ranks; they got their CAP under control and basically Belichecked several players who were on the downward trajectory of their careers.
Everything bolded does not improve the team.
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1 hour ago, BBFL said:
Yeah, they did. But they improved for the most part. Savage, Darby, Armstead, Duvernay, Davis and Morse improve the roster from where they were at come the start of FA.
They may have paid a bit more but in comparison to some of those other teams who were the head scratchers, they didn’t grossly overpay.
I think losing Ridley hurt the Jags
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I never find comparing the 2024 Bills roster to the 2023 Bills roster or the 2019 Bills roster as interesting because the 2024 Bills will never play a previous version of the Bills. I don't pay attention to every free agency move, so I don't have an opinion (which is odd because I usually have an opinion on everything) who has improved their team the most with the combination of coaching changes, player cuts and player signings. (ordinary administrative moves like restructurings or extensions, may create the ability to improve a roster, but the don't actually change the roster in and of themselves, so I don't consider them needle movers. )
So far the only move that jumped out as me as maybe be missing piece to allow a team to advance further was the Raven's signing of Derrick Henry. But I have no idea what else the have done.
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McDermott is feeling the pressure
in The Stadium Wall
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There is meaningful comparison. Due to Allen the bar of expectations for McDermott is higher. McDermott is unreasonably calling people narrow minded who want a higher bar than he wants. Maybe his lower bar is narrow minded.