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Yeah but that was Mara's mandate, not Schoen/Daboll. Anyway, its a pretty irrelevant discussion. You can have a great back or not. The only thing that matters is a QB. Bills fans should recognize this by now. With or without Barkley, the Giants are still ass without a QB. The Bills were ass with a lot of great RB's. The flip side of signing Barkley and letting DJ walk is that what if DJ blossomed into a Goff-level QB and their new rookie sucked? That would be even worse. They bet on Jones. They were wrong. But you never go wrong prioritizing any kind of stability at the QB position over literally everything else tbh.

All winning a few more games with a Barkley does is push them further and further from the top of the board. The Giants, Mara specifically, made a mistake in mandating that DJ was his boy and that Schoen and Daboll were effectively married to him. Once that's the "plan," paying Barkley is a mistake. If DJ works, well you probably don't want to pay both. If DJ doesn't and flames out spectacularly? Having a great RB to win 6 games instead of 3 is drought era Bills magic. The Giants will try to find a QB now. If they succeed, all will be forgiven, if they fail, heads will roll. Especially because Malik will likely emerge as a superstar sooner than later with halfway competent QB play.

Sounds like a drought era Bills plan. Maybe they could’ve drafted the next CJ to pair with Barkley.

Alec Pierce numbers

Solid work but IMO there's 0% chance Burden makes it out of the first.

Didn’t we do this? Or was 2 All-Pro safeties, an all-pro nickel, an all-pro off ball linebacker and an all-pro boundary CB not enough secondary talent?

The best we can do is a lightly used Mike Hughes and a day 2 pick.

Go deeper. ”we want to move to Vegas.” ”fine, but we will need you to trade Luka to the Lakers for minimal compensation to save the ratings.”

This is the reason it happened imo.

Was that right before the clock hit zero and they lost? Are we really caping for playoff Lamar in defense of the Bills talent? We went in with the gameplan of “sell out to stop Henry, make Lamar beat us.” Lamar had 2 massive TO’s in the first half and went into halftime down 10. The guy with 4 picks in the SEASON had 2 TO’s in the playoffs. He’s a choker. It’s okay.

Excuse me. we call that the Shaq Lawson, Reggie Ragland, Adolphus Washington draft around these parts. The REXIT draft.

What oversimplification? are you of the opinion that Lamar’s turnovers weren’t a reason they lost?

Imagine if we had a couple All-Pro caliber safeties, with an All-Pro Caliber slot DB, and an all-Pro caliber off ball linebacker. No chance we’d let up 38.

Russell Wilson was a ProBowler in 2024 do you think that should appreciably add value to the Seahawks picking him in 2012? I’ll hang up and listen.

Their QB is a notorious playoff choker and turned it over a lot. The bad news is WR was the strength of last years draft class and we are here.

That’s very fair as someone who watched a lot of Chiefs games as well. They honestly played like they were taking a significant amount of snaps off across the board. but interior pass rushers took a real step back as a group in 2024 tbh. No AD. The usual suspects like Jeffrey Simmons, Quinnen Williams, Dexter Lawrence etc were all either on dog ***** defenses or hurt or just saw their level of play drop. Lawrence was actually pretty good statistically but his team and defense was so bad I kinda get why he didn’t get a nod.

I respect your opinion but I think you are incorrect. Josh came in very raw. And young. Much higher ceiling. Keon is also very raw. Young. Much higher ceiling. Kincaid was not raw. He was old. There’s less room to grow when you come into the NFL at 24 instead of 21. You aren’t going to grow into your body much more. I think there’s a better chance Kincaid’s rookie year is one of the best years of his career than there is that he turns into an All Pro next year. It’s wild. Dorian “spinning like a top on HB misdirection” Williams is more talented than Roquan “3x first team All-Pro” Smith. Lol

Yeah, I would consider it a significant disappointment that the pinnacle of the team with Josh Allen at QB is losing in the AFCCG twice. You had some clarity that this team wasn’t good enough but you are falling back into your old ways. Shakir is gonna be the next Antonio Brown sans the crazy, Dorian is better than Roquan, Kincaid is Tony Gonzalez and not a geriatric disappointing 3rd year player. What is next lol

🫨 It’s not really prisoner of the moment. I have been banging this drum for years. It’s Josh and the guys. Always has been. guys like Greg and Ed and Kincaid and Knox and Shakir etc etc etc etc through the years are all good but have not been good enough. Obviously. Same as it was with them and their previous iterations in 2022. It’s nothing new.

Chris Jones was a fraudulent first team All-Pro in 2024?

How many days are we removed from you saying Kincaid was the next Kelce? Now Dorian is more talented than Roquan? What is next

Kincaid is going to be 26 next season. For reference, Josh was 26 in the 2022 season. It’s not a lost cause for Kincaid but it’s not “early.”

I find myself getting banned far less when I add a targeted “lol” in my takes to keep it light.

I mean, I think he starts for a lot of teams. You are acting like he’s a total bum. You said he wouldn’t start for “anybody” lol. Hyde and Poyer also got AP nods while they were Bills. I guess the AP just got hoodwinked and they were also trash JAGs.

His biggest weakness is pass protection. It kept him off the field as a rookie and even though he’s improved, it still keeps him off the field.