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I didn’t say he was untouchable. if you want to present some arguments that he needs to get fired, I probably won’t disagree with a lot of them. But it’s silly to be a part of the mob mentality and spout things that don’t stand up to even basic scrutiny.

And when we win it, I won’t criticize. If we don’t, I will

Then say they didn’t get enough good linemen, not “refused to draft” them. He jumped at HC opportunities because almost everyone does.

Aka all good reasons to fire the guy whose job it is to get the offense to execute and play well. Jk, it must be another nefarious scapegoating!

They are allowing near league average in points. While almost never playing with a lead. With an offense that is 5th in turnovers. In fact, this year (including the healthy start to this defense) the defense is still ranked higher than the offense on a scoring basis. that’s criminal with a healthy O and paying Stef and Josh half a billion. I thought when the defense got banged up that this team would need to win some shootouts. We haven’t been able to even participate in a shootout this season.

If the Bills won the Superbowl in 2021, we wouldn't be talking about how McD ruined the Bills lol. We can both play that game.

They drafted Cody Ford in the second, Dion Dawkins in the second, Torrence in the second, Spencer Brown in the third, signed Mitch Morse to the top 7 center contract in the NFL, Nick Broeker in the 7th, Luke Tenuta in the 6th, Tommy Doyle in the 5th, Jack Anderson in the 7th, Wyatt Teller in the 5th, signed Daryl Williams to a 3 years $24M deal, signed Quinton Spain, signed John Feliciano, signed Roger Saffold. You could argue that's "refusing to draft olinemen," and thus a reflection on not wanting to run the ball, but you'd be wrong.

It worked when Micah got his hands on the ball. Idk, I heard too much about "sitting back and getting picked apart" from the Frazier days to really kill a DC over a couple blitzes. It's not like Von and the gang are getting pressure with 4. Whole defense is a JAGfest post-injury and you gotta try something.

You can't say that and ALSO SAY that Frazier was a nefarious scapegoat to the McD agenda. Sharp is purposely avoiding the current year and the comments surrounding Dorsey his entire tenure as an OC, and linking quotes from 3 years ago instead. Like Sean hasn't been basically telling Dorsey to figure it out all season? His premise is that this is the offense McD wants. Well if Dorsey was doing a great job doing what McD wanted, WHY DID HE FIRE HIM! I don't care if you hate McD and think he sucks. That's fine. I don't even disagree that we should fire him. But this article is still garbage.

I mean, if we had won 2 Superbowls with Josh Allen, then I would agree the TOs don't matter. But we haven't. And his contemporary, who again, turns it over less, has. I believe Josh Allen is a top 2-3 QB in football as it stands. I believe he could be the best clear and away if he didn't turn it over as much. That's not holding him to an unfair "standard," that's just an accurate assessment of his strengths and flaws as a player. Just because you believe a great player has flaws, doesn't mean I'm holding him to an unfair standard. He's not perfect. No one is is. Brady was the best ever and he had flaws. His limited mobility meant that getting pressure up the middle was near a death sentence on most plays. Guys like Allen, Mahomes, Hurts, and Burrow don't have that flaw, they can move around and outrun even instant pressure and still make a play. Does that mean I'm holding Brady to an unfair standard? I don't think so.

Russell Wilson has been one of the worst QBs in football when being blitzed this year, hasn't he?

I said Allen is great like twice dude. You completely missed the point. Greatness is being listed in those companies. I think Allen is great enough to already be compared to Favre and Ben and the rest. That's a compliment, not a slight. But Favre didn't win as much as Brady or Ben, in large part, due to the number of head-scratching throws and plays and TOs. That's just a fact. Does that mean Favre wasn't great? Of course not. Does that mean he wasn't as great as Brady? YUP. Could he have maybe been as great as Brady or Ben if he didn't turn it over so much? YUP. Some great QB's are still better than other great QB's. And TO's play a part in that.

I did. It's cherry picking and riding the "Fire McD" wave. Criticism has been RAMPANT on the Bills inability to be less "Josh Allen-centric." That's consistent since 2020. There's only one way to do that, run the ball. We have tried to get better in that regard. Folks wanted Frazier gone after 13 seconds. They thought the Bills defense was too passive. They wanted a more attacking and blitzing style defense. We did that, we tried to get better in that regard. Half the posts in weeks 1-4 were how fans were SO EXCITED we had a run game that worked. How the defense was much more aggressive. Some key injuries and some regression on offense and now its "Sean McDermott orchestrated the Bills fall" lol. This article could have easily been "Dorsey sucked and was holding this team back despite improved personnel" (because pretty much every stat supports that), but Sharp included a bunch of frustrated quotes after losses from 3 years ago to make it seem far more nefarious. There aren't any quotes about McD's offensive frustration from 2022 or 2023? Why? Has McD not said a million things about the offensive woes' between 2022 and now? Of course he has. Hack job. 0/10. Would not submit my email to read this garbage again.

Trevor Lawrences 4 TO's put them in a 4 score hole. He made up for it by bringing them back with his defense also playing lights out, but 99/100 times, the Jags lose that game and everyone rightfully blames Lawrence for melting down. No one would have pointed the finger at the Jags defense letting them down if they lost that game lol. I think Josh Allen is great. I think Josh Allen can be even greater if he turns it over less. Other QBs, historically, have put up insane offensive production without turning it over as much. They are also, coincidentally, QBs who have accomplished much more than Josh Allen. Patrick Mahomes had 52 TD's with one of the worst defenses in football. He had 12 interceptions that year. Nearly a 5:1 ratio. THAT'S the person ya'll are trying to say Josh is comparable to. I love Josh. He's great. There's unfortunately levels to great. Big Ben was great. Favre was great. Brady was great. Manning was great. They are not all the same kind of great.

Nobody blamed Daboll in 2021. That premise alone is completely wrong. He was the hottest coaching candidate in the league.

Brady clearly needs to get the offense to perform better. Everyone can see the offense has major issues. Scoring 7 points for 55 minutes is not good, which we have done for multiple games. Getting outschemed or outplayed by bad teams is not good. Having massive execution issues is not good. They have virtually no injuries outside of Knox. If your opinion is that this is the third best offense in football, which is what DVOA says, I 100% disagree. If you say maybe that’s a little overrated, then you agree that stat is not correct and we are just haggling. We have a top 5 QB and a top 5 WR, in year 6 of the same offensive system. Rookie mistakes should still not be happening. And yes, that includes the players. You can’t fire every player. You fire the guy who coaches them if they all continue to play badly. What I LOVE is folks who point to EPA/play and DVOA and ALSO say that the players sucking isn’t Dorsey’s fault. If the numbers are great, I guess the players don’t suck either. Unless the numbers are wrong. Because of course they are.

Exactly. TO’s matter. TOs in your own territory almost always lead to points. It’s like the statistic most correlated to wins and losses. not PI’s, not missed tackles, not penalties. This is wrong from 70 years of football data. I’m sorry.

The first TO resulted in points against Denver. The first TO resulted in points against NE. TOs matter. They always have and always will. Yes, Josh is great. TOs aren’t great. TOs are bad. You are never gonna convince anybody otherwise because this is a fact.

Ball security is job security.

That is a stop, yeah.

Exactly. Which basically means your point about McD doesn’t matter lol. We always have a chance with Josh and we have a better chance with a coach that can coach Josh

Production of 5-5? .500 football?

They kinda have since Jimbo left? Do you follow FSU?

They are all stops. More or less impressive stops, but stops nonetheless. If a team went 99 yards in 1 play and scored a TD with no time left, you’d blame the defense for not stopping them, right?

Less miracle plays basically means a worse offense. What makes Josh special IS the miracle plays. It’s how he went toe to toe with Mahomes two years ago. A Josh Allen without the miracles is just a fine QB. Not a QB who can be the best in the league. That’s JMO.