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22 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:
Yesterday brought some clarity to this thread. The cap is not fake but it soft and can be manipulated to a point. But it is real not fake. As polian says. The cap does not forget and does not forgive.
Yes and no. I’m definitely someone who feels you can manipulate the cap for as long as a team wants. Does a team eventually have to pay for it of course, but teams can always do things if there is a player they want to sign or keep players they want to keep. Every move the Bills made yesterday can be justified outside of cap savings. If they wanted to keep all of those guys they could have, but having some time to digest what happened those were all smart business and football decisions
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People on here are usually pretty level headed, as today’s news shows, I’m sure everyone will be calm, cool, and collected when signing news comes out. Not really sure why you would think anyone here would overreact, that’s just preposterous!
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3 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:
If only the players had as much loyalty to their teams as the fans have to their players.....the world would always be filled with butterflies and rainbows! Unfortunately, 99% of NFL players' ultimate loyalty is to the almighty dollar.
Sorry but most fans have no loyalty to the players, personally I think your statement is way off. Players are always made out to be the enemy - Diggs, Miller, Edmunds, going back to players like Mario Williams....all of these guys ended up on fans sh*t lists. Most people are fans of teams, not of players.
Teams aren't loyal to the players, why should the players be loyal to the team? Both sides know it's a business, and they are loyal up to a certain point.
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2 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:
His salary will be reduced, it has zero affect on anyone coming here, ya gonna say the same thing about Von? Or dumping White or Poyer? Brady understood what it took to have a competitive team, Allen will do the same, he will just push money out further, but it is coming.
But that’s not taking a pay cut-what Brady did is completely different than what Josh will do. Josh will still get his money and rightfully so, his cap hit will be reduced
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3 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said:
Yes if he wants to be competitive.
How is the team going to be competitive when players know that the team will make even the best player take a pay cut? No one would want to come to Buffalo if they know that’s gonna happen
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8 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:The night they lost I said the Chiefs were winning it all.
The next day I was one who said it was a rebuild and McD needed to go also.
Right, right and right!!!This coach absolutely squandered our best chance in decades , multiple seasons in a row.
Now , here we are getting ready to rinse and repeat.
Never fear, at the beginning of the new season , I’ll pour some more salt in the would and point out that we will never win it all with McD.
Peace out till then, Boys and Girls✌️
Congrats, you get to say I told you so…you must feel so good right now
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30 minutes ago, Roundybout said:
Wow, he’s a pretty big special teams presence.
I can't honestly think of a special teams play he made this past season
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17 minutes ago, DieHardBillsFan said:
That trade value is terrible. Only thing that makes sense is he is a cap casualty.
They got a 5th round pick for a backup lineman who only played 35 snaps, what could they possibly have expected to get?! Switch it up and let’s say the Bills traded a 4th or 3rd rounder for what I just described-this place would absolutely burn to the ground
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1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:
What would you get for him?
Well considering someone thought Ryan Bates and his 35 snaps was worth more than a 5th, I’m thinking multiple 1st rounders
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41 minutes ago, mrags said:
Careful your on a rough path that people will not agree with you on Dion. He’s the lovable fat guy so everyone likes him.
Yeah could be that, or, and hear me out on this one, people are sick of reading about completely nonsensical trades. Just in the last 12 hours people have wanted to trade away the starting LT and the all pro linebacker. Now let’s throw in the large amount of fans who for some reason also want to trade away the team’s top receiver, who still by the way is a top 10 receiver in the league. Could be that too, just saying
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1 hour ago, uticaclub said:
He's worth more than a 5th
A backup lineman is most definitely not worth more than a 5th
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4 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
You can't forecast anything like that. This is true. I still think a lot of the lack of usage is on Dorsey for not getting him SOME kind of small roll.
Either way, with the production the Colts ended up getting from Moss this year...I'll say we're square from the Hughes/Sheppard trade before that😂
You think the Colts got the same value the Bills did from those 2 trades? Moss didn’t even have 800 yards this year, was pretty much phased out by the end of the year
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So not for nothing, hasn’t there been a ton of complaining on here for about 2 years because the Bills went out and signed a high priced free agent who was over 30 years old? And now there are 4 pages of people saying to do the exact same thing???
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1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said:
It's not an either/or situation. They're going to get both, just delayed by a year. It's far easier to be elite in college than it is in the pros.
That's very true it's not, but in terms of one year, are there really going to be players who make more than from their first NFL contract? Even up to the 4th round a rookie is making over a million dollars a year. There aren't very many players (if any at all) who would be taken in the 5th round or later who would make $1.5 mil in NIL deals in college
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11 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
A small fraction of the kids who get drafted will be making a second NFL contract. An even smaller amount will turn that second contract into a payday. Most of them will get 1 or 2 year deals. It's only short-sighted if you know for a fact that they'll be a star and not get injured or be a bust, which is impossible to tell.
Outside of someone like Tim Tebow or Johnny Manziel, what other players would make significantly more money by staying in college with a NIL as opposed to going pro?
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15 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:
I highly doubt that any one school is making a billion dollars, and even if they were, I doubt it could be pinpointed to one (or even a few) player who is responsible for that. IOW, the Alabamas, Ohio States, Norte Dames, et al will ALWAYS sellout their stadiums, have huge merchandise sales, and garner big tv ratings (unless they absolutely stink).
Sorry I should have clarified better-these universities as a whole are making billions off of these guys
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45 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:
I'd hardly call it "being exploited" when getting a totally "free ride" to a major college. In today's world, the monetary value of the free ride is probably $50-75k per year, and of course there’s always the "off the books" benefits that these athletes get.
Perhaps not being exploited, but considering the NCAA and the universities make billions off of the players, it's allowing them to be more fairly compensated for what they are doing for those universities
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6 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:
Someone with more knowledge of NIL
What is stopping an NFL owner from "paying" college kids? Kind of like a recruiting tool when they get to the NFL
There's no guarantee that player will end up on his team. For example why would Pegula pay Marvin Harrison? No shot that guy ever plays in Buffalo
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53 minutes ago, HappyDays said:
A player like Reynolds or Samuel or Mooney being our 3rd or 4th option would be amazing. Why are you afraid of this scenario?
Now I am completely basing this off of one play for one and one game for another, but after watching Mooney drop that Hail Mary (against the Browns I believe) and watching Reynolds drop multiple balls in the NFC championship, I don't think I want either of them in Buffalo
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Back when men were men!! Who cares that these guys can’t walk, some of CTE, at least these men were men, am I right?!?!
it’s almost like the changed the rules to make the game safer for a reason…
that being said, I only watched like 3 minutes of it, but I didn’t see many plays that would’ve been penalties. A super late hit on Kosar, a couple of dirty low blocks, and a lineman ripping a QBs head off, but other than that it was about what we see now
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21 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
They play just to play ball and try to get an education. Not for money.
11 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:It's pretty much why Nick Saban quit coaching. IMHO, NIL money is not good for college sports, not good at all.
I don’t know, for me I think these opinions are a bit extreme. Football in particular is weird-the player is always the enemy. Fans root for teams or schools, they never root for players. Think about it just in the Bills who are the enemies? Von and Stef because they got paid and Gabe because he is about to get paid. Most people don’t care about the players at all once they have served their purpose.
it’s the same thing with college football-Nick Saban left because he lost his stranglehold on college football. He could see the playing field was being leveled and he got out (I think the college portal had a big reason for that as well).
Pro football and college football seem to be the only places where people continually root for the giant billionaire owners and mega billion dollar schools and fight against the people who are making those people all of their money
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11 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
That's the plan. They want 4 giant conferences. It's going to get to the point the best pure football will be played at D1-2-3 and NAIA
What does that even mean? Best pure football?
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41 minutes ago, boyst said:
They can choose to do that. But the NCAA portal and nil have made the college game pathetic. These athletes getting contracts - eventually it'll be the top 100-150 athletes and livi dune getting lots of money while the small programs get lost and disappear.
That’s better than these colleges (while also continuing to increase their tuition), school presidents, and the NCAA getting all of the money and the kids get nothing
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3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:
and why would we not factor in that?
It works against the argument that someone in college would make more than in the NFL (which they don't)
Bills Cap Status - Approx $4.25 under cap 4/03/2024 (added roster change summary)
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Why would either side want to sign off on that? A restructure benefits both the team and the player