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Be careful man. He may have gave money to the AZ audit. You want voter fraud, Republicans paid $6 million for an audit that resulted in more votes for Biden. They literally paid money to lose worse!

Just saw… $6 million dollars were spent by Trumpers to get Biden more votes in AZ!!! That’s hilarious!

Why should they? The Dems outsmarted the Republicans to use reconciliation 3 times (basically). Republicans got to use reconciliation twice after Trump. The first time they added a ton of debt for tax cuts to the rich. The second time they wanted to take away people’s health insurance. Dems used their first time to help people in the pandemic and their second one to help every day Americans (while increasing taxes on the wealthy but it’s not passed yet and still waiting Senate language) The debt ceiling is something that historically has been passed bi-partisanly until the tea party held Americans Hostage. When Trump was President the Dems helped raise it 3 times. The Dems are asking for Republicans to act like grown up and Republicans are acting like Republicans. Also Dems aren’t followers like the Republicans. It’s great seeing a bit of House Dems call out Biden. Something that didn’t happen in the Trump era from Republicans.

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/24/1040327483/the-controversial-election-review-in-arizona-confirms-bidens-win Trump and his allies have latched on to the so-called Arizona audit as evidence of their wide-ranging and baseless claims that the 2020 election was rigged. Republicans in other states have visited the election review in Maricopa County, and initiated similar investigations in their states, despite a lack of evidence of widespread fraud or other issues with last year's election. "The contractors hired by the Senate president are not auditors, and they are not certified by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission," Maricopa County Board Chair Jack Sellers, a Republican, said in May. "It's clearer by the day: The people hired by the Senate are in way over their heads. This is not funny; this is dangerous."

https://gizmodo.com/thanks-cyber-ninjas-1847738279/amp According to the New York Times, which viewed the draft, the Cyber Ninjas found 261 less votes from Donald Trump and 99 more for President Joe Biden. (Biden has been our nation’s president for eight months.) The Cyber Ninjas have been stalling the release, apparently indefinitely; they passed their May, late May, then August deadlines, claiming to have fallen ill with covid-19. They didn’t seem terribly eager to lay their cards on the table as today’s deadline approached, either. Responding to a Maricopa County Superior Court judge’s ruling that they would have to cough up the findings, their attorney submitted a letter last week stating that they didn’t recognize “any involuntary legal obligation to do so.” While they sat on the numbers, election integrity advocates warned that the mere existence of their months-long audit poisoned faith in democracy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/maricopa-county-draft-cyber-ninjas-election-review-says-biden-won-n1279997 The "draft report from Cyber Ninjas confirms the county's canvass of the 2020 General Election was accurate and the candidates certified as the winners did, in fact, win," Maricopa County tweeted Thursday night. NBC affiliate KPNX of Phoenix said that it obtained a copy of the report and that the review widens Biden's victory margin by 360 votes. - Even partisan GOP auditors can’t find fraud. But a ton of money wasted for nothing. What A Mess

No I’m referring to a show called Newsroom. It started Jeff Daniels, Olivia Munn, by Aaron Sorkin. Great watch. It also gave us this great bit: “Republicans “believe in a prohibitive military, in a common sense government and that there are social programs enacted in the last half century that work, but there are way too many costing way too much that don’t. And [they] believe in the rule of law and order and free-market capitalism. The Tea Party believes in loving America, but hating Americans…they believe in loving America, but hating its government…and they believe that anyone who disagrees with the Tea Party has sinister anti-America motives …most of all you must never, under any circumstances, seek to reach a compromise with your opponent or do any of what democrats and genuine republicans call governing…and one other plank in the Tea Party platform: if you’re poor, you are either too lazy or too stupid to be rich.” Ideological Purity, Compromise as weakness, A fundamentalist belief in scriptural literalism, Denying science, Unmoved by facts, Undeterred by new information, A hostile fear of progress, A demonization of education, A need to control women’s bodies, Severe xenophobia, Tribal mentality, Intolerance of dissent, and a pathological hatred of the U.S. government. We should call them what they are: The American Taliban.” Its really interesting since this was pre-Trump and highlights how the Tea Party has fundamentally changed the Republican Party.

It’s a quote from a TV show from back when the Tea Party held the country hostage over the same thing.

So the answer is you don’t know. We know 2020 when COVID was peak, CA was higher than FL. That was even with the more stringent shut downs than we saw in 2021. Not just higher but 60.6 million people higher overall in 2020.l all together.

So you don’t have CA tourism stats from this summer so you have no idea if it’s 30 million or not and you’re just making stuff up?

Any proof on your claim for visitors in summer in CA? just looking at peak COVID times: “California’s visitor numbers dropped by about 50% to 140.6 million in 2020, according to Visit California.” “Despite the pandemic, Florida drew about 80 million visitors in 2020, a 40% decline from the previous year, according to Visit Florida. ” https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-07-15/tourism-vacation-florida-california-covid-coronavirus Assuming an event distribution of visitors in CA that would give them around 35 million in summer.

Sloan Sabbith : I just got off the phone with these guys. Listen to these quotes. These aren't from liberals. these are hardcore Wall-Street guys,Who whatever the world may think of them,Knows what they're talking about and so do I. Jamie Dimon atChase says, "Voting against raising the debt ceiling would be a moral disaster." The Barclays guys say "This debate is detached from reality." My Goldman source says "If the house Republicans continue this debate, I hope they're willing to mark the end of the dollar as a global reserve currency." Please notice he didn't say if the house republicans don't raise the debt ceiling. he said if the house republicans continue this debate. That's all it takes. Just the uncertainty. That's why the Dow's gonna close down 230 points today. Because just the debate,just the doubt,just the possibility that the House Majority might commit the most self-inflicted damage to the country since the secession of the south has caused billions in value to disappear. -Newsroom

Please stop spreading fake news. The ones who said they already voted has been looked at and is fine: https://kmph.com/newsletter-daily/some-people-went-to-vote-but-were-told-theyd-already-cast-ballots-heres-why A career criminal with 300 ballots out of THOUSANDS of pieces of mail doesn’t show fraud. CA was mailing all their ballots at the time so if he was committing mail fraud Ofcourse there are ballots in it. The best course of action is to investigate, which they are. I’m sure if it comes out he was just in some ID theft ring you would still call it election fraud. Do yourself a favor and read this 2017 article: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/debunking-voter-fraud-myth The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.” They also have many many studies you can read that show it’s just not the problem you make it out to be.

So to summarize our chat , you think you found 1 case of election fraud for 300 ballots that would have been that was corrected. You have no definitive proof of it being actual election fraud, but it is being investigated. The GA and TX election reform laws just passed would not have fixed the only election fraud you believe to have found as GA and TX already did not automatically mail out forms prior to the laws. (not sure the hate for mailing everyone a ballot. CO does that and all the right wing people on here were saying how great CO is during the MLB GA election discussion) Your secondly is dumb. From your research you’ve discovered CAs current election laws resulted in only 1 possible election fraud. If proven to be fraud it had the potential to affect around 300 liberal ballots out of 10,500,000ish votes.

And we can take it one step further. Let’s assume this is election fraud. What new law in GA or TX or any other state right now would prevent this type of fraud of stealing mail ballots.

I didn’t say it’s beneath him, I’m saying there’s been no proof or evidence other than your conjecture that it’s fraud. If it was election it wouldn’t make sense. 1) the people wouldn’t receive their mail in ballot and would just request a new one, 2) he was found in Torrence and the stories seem like that’s where the mail from which is super liberal. 3) all mail ballots are tracked so you can see online where it’s gone and what’s going on with it so fraud would be easily noticed by any of the 300. Ochams razor says this guy was committing some kind of mail fraud or ID theft ring, hence the credit cards. Theres an ongoing investigation going on. We will see after that what the intent was.

No he happened to have 300 ballots. To have fraud you need to have intent. There is nothing showing intent to commit election fraud, therefore there cannot be election. It’s more likely he was doing some mail scheme that occurred during an election. Hence why there was thousands of pieces of mail and only 300 ballots. For the printing multiple, each registered voter has an account that they verified themselves that they sign into and request to do online voting. The QR code on the ballot is tied to your sign in with your verified info. You can see this at around 1:11 on the video.

Yes, half truth guy fits well. You say a guy was found with 300 ballots. Well he was also found with thousands of pieces of mail. There was been no hint it’s election related. And there is no election fraud charges. As you said there, you supplied the half truth on the ballots. You can see how their vote online process works here: You request it’s use through your voter account. You sign in through your personal information. You sign off with your personal signature on the envelope like vote by mail.

Fraud involves intent. The guy passed out in the car had thousands of pieces of mail, which included 300 ballots. Mail fraud probably but zero evidence of election fraud. As to the printing out ballots there are several confirmations. For example, anyone can’t just go print a ballot, you need to go through CAs system to request the ballot and confirm you can vote. After you are done you sign the ballot and it goes through the same confirmations as a normal mailed in ballot. The only dishonest hack here is you for spreading half truths that promote false claims.

Since you posted this, a couple questions: 1. What product is causing the surge in prices? 2. What’s August’s CPI look like?

Yea probably, living in a society is cringe.

Let’s get to the base of your real feelings. Ignore COVID because Ofcourse no matter the law your feelings would be the same. So what would is your position? Take COVID out of it. To use your words “Because I’m against….”

Why are you against it?

wait are you for or against this? Lets look at the bakery that wouldn’t serve gay people. Do you support that decision? Not totally the same thing here since you can’t choose to be gay but you choose to be vaccinated or not so it’s a lesser infringement of rights/not an infringement.

We have too like a deranged rhino y’all come and ago. Hell, some of you guys snowflake so much you create another board. No ones covering themselves. We’re just calling an NPC an NPC. I don’t agree all the time with Doc or Leh-Nerd or anyone else on the right. (I do sometimes though, I find myself agreeing with Doc a bit) but at least they post thoughts. @BillStimecould never post a reply to doc and predict exactly what he would say 4 mins later. Docs not an NPC. Us lefties could create a bot poster called A-Man and have him post left wing articles and he would add the same to the forum as you. Hence, why NPC is exactly what you are here.