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You can still find out. It's not that difficult to do. I would say it's probably in an LLC over a trust.

Because financially it's probably smarter for him to rent a place before making a big commitment. WNY doesn't have the greatest real estate appreciation and has high taxes.

AJ Epenesa AJ Dillon/Cam Akers Jabari Zuniga

Yes. Can I have your name please?

You're right, he did say that. I just don't see anything in the property records.

He did, Hughes has a home here and a few other guys, but it makes more sense to rent unless you get a long-term extension.

I highly doubt that honestly.

Very few guys who play for the Bills actually buy a home in the area.

That is what I'm arguing. It's what the argument has been since the beginning. Do the Bills have to sign Edmunds and Allen soon? No, they do not. End of story. They might choose to resign Edmunds early, but it's not a 50/50 shot like you make it out to be. It's actually a very small probability. Care to put your money your money where your mouth is? I doubt it. You've been wrong so many times over the years, I've lost count. You've always stayed arrogant though, which is a testament to your consistency.

How are you still arguing this? The argument is the Bills HAVE to sign Edmunds and Allen soon. They don't. Not even close. They control both their rights for 3 more seasons. They could choose to do so next offseason but it would be breaking a long running historical protocol. No defensive player from the 2013-2016 draft, which includes a ton of All pro players, has signed a new deal after 3 years. Those are some really bad odds for you. Again, the only reason they would do it is because it benefited the cap situation, which destroys the entire premise of the argument. So now you're reaching even more because the 1 time it has happened in the last 5 years is a team that Mcdermott and Beane were associated with. That would mean you're comparing Luke Kuechly to Tremaine Edmunds. Rookie defensive player of the year, DPOY in his 2nd season, and a two time 1st team all pro by his 3rd year. Edmunds is not on Luke's level. Edmunds just made his 1st pro bowl after an injury to Hightower. Again, the Bills don't HAVE to do anything soon with Edmunds or Allen. That's a fact.

I was referring to Edmunds, but the same principal applies to Tre. There are a ton of defensive players that showed their greatness by year 3 that didn't get new deals till after year 4. Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald, Von Miller, Xavier Rhodes, Anthony Barr, CJ Mosely, Clowney, Ansah, Fletcher Cox, Chandler Jones, Marcus Peters, Joey Bosa, Jalen Ramsey, and plenty of other Pro Bowlers left out. Not saying they won't do Tre this offseason but it would be going severely against the trend.

OMG, this is really pathetic. I went back three years because these were the most recent drafts that pertained to the topic. I also included only defensive players because Edmunds is defensive player. You start throwing in offensive players, quarterbacks and guys not even drafted in the 1st round or in a draft where the 5th year option was available. Talk about some serious reaching. A real new low for you. Even when you do that, it's a extremely small number of players. Especially defensive players. So let's look at the data: Zero players out of 48 defensive 1st rounders drafted between 2014-2016 got new deals after three years. In 2013, ZERO defensive players out of 17 drafted in the 1st round got new deals after 3 years. In 2012 1 defensive player drafted in the 1st round got a new deal after 3 years. In 2011 2 out of the 16 defensive players drafted in the 1st round got new deals after 3 years. So to summarize: 3% of defensive 1st round players players since the 2011 draft have received extensions after 3 years. 1 defensive 1st rounders since 2012 has gotten and extension after 3 years. That's 1 player out of 82 defensive 1st rounders or 3 in 98 if you go nap to 2011 the first year of the 5th year option. Those are some bad looking odds/trends. Just walk away.

Now lets look at some facts since your post is completely devoid of them. You tell me that I'm "kidding myself" if I think the Bills won't resign Edmunds as early as next March, which would be after his 3rd year in the league. Let's look at the 2014-2016 NFL drafts for historical reference. Those players just finished their 4th, 5th and 6th seasons in the league. In the 1st round of those drafts a total of 48 defensive players were drafted. Do you know how many of them had their deals redone after 3 years? ZERO. NOT A SINGLE ONE. So lets put the "Edmunds might get resigned next year" theory to bed. It's not happening. He is not getting resigned "soon" Yes the argument is whether or not we can sign Golladay without breaking the young nucleus of the team. That was the original argument. I'm debating our financial ability to do so. I'm not debating Beane's methods or anything that's an opinion. I'm debating the numbers. I think we should grab a piece like him if he's available. That's my opinion. We have the financial ability to do so, that's a fact.

It's not what you replied to but you replied to ScottLaw, who's reply was to that post by Elijah. It's the inception of the argument. It's a total exaggeration that Edmunds and Allen are getting paid soon. Guys like Joey Bosa and Aaron Donald played 4 years on their rookie deals. To think Edmunds won't play another 2 years on his deal is a stretch. The only reason he wouldn't is if it would somehow be beneficial to the cap if he redid his deal after 3 but that would go against your argument anyways. Same goes for Allen. Wentz and Goff got their deals done after 3 years but Josh hasn't shown what those guys showed in year 2 and 3. Maybe Josh blows the lid off it next year and they want to redo his deal next offseason, but again, that's a stretch and not probable. The argument was the Bills don't have the money to hypothetically give Golladay a new contract without losing current, key players on the roster. That is not true. They have the ability to do Dawkins, Milano, Shaq and Poyer this offseason, Tre next and potentially Edmunds and Allen the following year. Hats off to Beane because the Bills are in great shape to be able to do this. This team is a #1 WR away from having a contender type team. I don't know how anyone could not want to make that move now.

When Scott asked Elijah who he was concerned about paying he said: "Edmunds, Milano, Dawkins, Josh, Tre, Poyer, etc. are all guys that are going to need to get paid soon." Edmund and Josh are getting paid soon? No, they're not. Total exaggeration. Also, the Bills control Tre for another 2 years at minimum. The Bills can pay Dion, Milano, Shaq and give Poyer a bump this offseason and have plenty of money to sign a big FA and add smaller cumulative pieces. Again, the Bills have 1 player on the entire roster with a 10 million dollar cap hit. Most perennially good teams have 6-7 and the Chiefs have 8. This miser way of spending is like a guy sitting in bonds for the last 10 years. Now is the time to go get a final big piece or two. Yeah but can you imagine how much better they'd be if they didn't grab Frank Clark and Tyrann Matheiu and sign them to big deals? What were the Chiefs thinking?!?!?

I'm definitely not for being one of those teams that give out a ton of bad contract to FA's but the Bills can no doubt sign their own guys and sign a Premier FA or 2.

ScottLaw was totally right. The guy he quoted was implying we couldn't hypothetically sign Golladay to a big contract because we had to pay the guys like Edmunds and Allen. Those guys just finished their 2nd year. The Bills have the rights to those guys for another 3 years. Milano and Dawkins aren't going to break the bank. This "cap hell" some people worry about is a total exaggeration. The Bills for 2020 currently have 1 player with a cap hit of 10 million or more. The Chiefs have 8 and still have to pay Mahomes. I guess they should have cancelled the Super Bowl parade. I remember 5 years ago when everyone said the Saints were in "salary cap hell". What happened? There's no prize in the NFL for doing the most while spending the least. The Bills have plenty of money to spend.

I was gonna say. Guy is worried about some people we don't have to pay for years.

He was definitely one of the better players during the drought. Three consecutive 1000 yard seasons on terrible Bills offenses is no small feat.

Ralph Wilson came to me in a dream last night. He said let Tre play out his contract and then franchise him.

3 pages and Thurman is not here defending PFF. Unusual.

I dislike the front office guys and the coaches more so then the players. Up until this new regime, the Bills have been a laughing stock of a franchise. Mickey mouse weight room, poor facilities, terrible coaching, cheap front office/ownership etc.

I think we'll miss the leadership more then anything.

I don't know how a QB who plays in the SEC, throws 60 TD's and beats 7 top 10 teams isn't the best prospect in the draft.

Only reason he would go is Jones is a superior prospect to Allen. Guy looked pretty special this season.