daz28

You can call it whatever you want. The far left AND far right policies aren't working, and Americans are paying the price. It's almost like you're pretending I have a say in the game, and am somewhat responsible. I don't and I'm not.

So you do know how politics works, and why passing bipartisan bills when you can is important. The current political culture changes VERY fast. Would you care to guess who said this: So this is not going to be a free ride. It's not going to be some instant amnesty. What's going to happen is you are going to pay a significant fine. You are going to learn English. You are going to -- you are going to go to the back of the line so that you don't get ahead of somebody who was in Mexico City applying legally. But after you've done these things over a certain period of time you can earn your citizenship, so that it's not -- it's not something that is guaranteed or automatic. You've got to earn it. But over time you give people an opportunity. Now, it only works though if you do all the pieces. I think the American people, they appreciate and believe in immigration. But they can't have a situation where you just have half a million people pouring over the border without any kind of mechanism to control it. So we've got to deal with that at the same time as we deal in a humane fashion with folks who are putting down roots here, have become our neighbors, have become our friends, they may have children who are U.S. citizens. That's the kind of comprehensive approach that we have to take. They key part is, "Now, it only works though if you do all the pieces". immigration is more complex than saying Biden can fix this if he wanted to.

Doing the right thing about crime and the border isn't smartening up? How is saying they weren't doing the right thing desperate to give them credit? My preferred side will always be doing the one that's doing what's best, whichever side that may be. Now hopefully the MAGA nutters going on about in vitro being a child will look at the polls and smarten up.

I have no idea what you're talking about

Except he did everything else, except the child tirade part, so we must strike and ignore all the rest of the facts, right? Mr. Engel was present when Ornato relayed what happened, and did not dispute the claim in private, but you go ahead and believe the guy who destroyed the evidence on the phones. It also said: “It is difficult to fully reconcile the accounts of several of the witnesses who provided information with what we heard from Engel and Ornato. But the principal factual point here is clear and undisputed: President Trump specifically and repeatedly requested to be taken to the Capitol. He was insistent and angry, and continued to push to travel to the Capitol even after returning to the White House.”

...and then you cried about Biden "alarming" you with his mean MAGA talk. LOL

It's clearly worse, but it's always been an issue. My point was the republicans want it to be a bigger issue when it's time to get votes. Without that issue, they can't use it to appeal to voters. Kind of what's happening right now with trump shutting down the bill. As you've stated, they need 60 votes, but they could have forced democrats to vote on it. trump did manage remain in Mexico, but that didn't help illegal crossings. Like I keep saying over and over, when you get a bipartisan bill, you better take it while the getting is good.

Like Doc said, they're reacting to polls. That's not really an argument from me, that's politics.

People are moving away from religion, and marriage is probably more a tradition than a religious ceremony for many. If you don't get religion back, you likely don't get a huge bounce from marriage. If trump tweeted about marriage, it would look like this: MARRIAGE IS A FAILING INSTITUTION!!!. Surprisingly, there was a small bump in marriages post covid. Some people must have said to themselves, if we can live together stuck in this house, I guess we can get married.

From your own article: Young men are slightly more likely to identify as conservative (29%) than liberal (25%), with moderate (44%) as the largest share — numbers which have remained remarkably steady over the last 25 years. It's a slight edge there, but I'd bet there's an entire demographic that isn't considered in that poll, and that's youth who aren't political from inner cities. If there was the so-called civil war, I doubt men would be leaving their liberal girlfriends to go fight for trump. He's got the bikers for trump and proud boys. BLM and antifa would stomp them, imho. Anyways, this is all a stupid hypothetical about his so called bloodbath comment taken out of context.

Again, I was clear in what was opinion and data. I know that's hard for some of you, but go ahead and vilify me while defending everyone else. You're clearly the one who needs to toughen up.

To me or to the hyposcrisy?

Ain't NEVER gonna happen Donny, no matter how many of our autocratic enemies you invite to the White House. Wondering if the heil Hitler salute was a freudian slip? Guess the rallies are gonna have to do. This guy is a lunatic, albeit a stable genius one. Now I'm curious how many of our enemies who've threatened us with nuclear destruction, were hanging up in the White House? Has to be more than just Putin and Kim, right?

Is there something wrong with me clarifying the difference between statistics and my opinion? SC offered his feeling and opinions with no data to back them up. If that's ragging to you, then maybe you're the one that needs to find some strength. Just so we're clear, I'll spend my time doing what I want when I want, but I appreciate your concerns. If you'd like to actually debate, like we're here to do, I'll explain why I believe what I believe, and it's because I think Biden's economy hasn't been good for young people. See how this works, It's not all about being snidely/snarky and protecting/defending hypocrites.

Yes, from last presidential election. I don't think too many voters are actually going to switch candidates.

What's bothering me is why the republicans are recalcitrant. Bipartisanship is the only way, and we'd better hope they take it when they can get it, because it seems the first 3 years are lame duck years for everything now.

Giving the border attention. National Guard in the subways. Less talking about green incentives. Most of it is recent attempting to sway independents.

He's a hero and John McCain isn't, because it's hard to get captured loading boxes in Japan. MAGA logic.

My random commentary is based on exit polls, what's yours based on, feelings? It was 53% male for Trump vs 45 female; Age18-29: 60% Biden-36% trump. To extrapolate what your feelings got, to get a majority of 18-29 males it would make the divide between males and females in that group ridiculously out of whack. I'm not mathematician/statistician, but it would have to be like 80-20. I doubt that's the case.

The election.

I was going by exit polls from last election. 15,590 respondents. Was 62-35%. I believe trump has closed the gap, but not by that much.

Moving more to center.

So you're against divisive rhetoric? My point was about dangerous/violent rhetoric, which is the thread title.

This was obviously a gaffe by Trump, which they are jumping on, because that's how politics works. He did say it will be a bloodbath for our country, when he should have said for the auto industry. The guy does love his dog whistles, but younger voters overwhelmingly are against Trump. If there is a bloodbath, it certainly wouldn't be a bunch of 50+year-olds hurting a bunch of under 30-year-olds. I can assure you of that. Harley cosplayers would find out real fast how soft the younger generation really is.

Yeah, only support loyalists to the MAGA movement, and cut all support for voices that have a differing opinion within their party. How very Nazi of you. Ronna wasn't the answer, but this solution is worse. If you want an authoritarian, then a democratic/republic nation isn't for you. You stated in another post, that the far left has taken over the democratic party, and you hate that. Somehow, you love this, even though it's literally the same thing, except right wing.