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What is better, no guns, or more guns?
daz28 replied to Security's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Stiff penalties for those carrying stolen guns, and those who are careless with securing their weapons. The only problem with this is that we incarcerate tons of people already, and I'm not sure it's making a difference. Some kind of culture change may be necessary. How to accomplish that is anyone's guess. -
Who will be replaced by a stooge with the same marching orders. Welcome to the new Congress, where it's show trials, and no bi-partisan legislation. If they were a corporation, they'd be terminated.
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The 1% is for ALL abortion at week 21 and past, so using the data, you'd assume as you get to 22, 23 and so on, there's likely a significant dip. I have no idea where that transition point is. I think abortion is not a good thing, but I also don't believe the state should be meddling into bodily autonomy very much if at all. I think the last time this was a big issue was assisted suicide, and I think they came up with reasonable regulations to allow people to pass on peacefully and with dignity. Of course the amount of nutters was lower then.
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"Mr. Mayorkis is going to need some time to prepare for this trial, your honor. We think November 6th should give our client just about the right amount of time to prepare".
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The viability number should be carefully and very deeply researched from a large swath of doctors. The non-secular GQP nutjobs shouldn't be involved, whether they are lurking behind the door or not. This is only a discussion about viability, and if you have, what you believe to be a better determinative factor, I'm all ears, even if it's nebulous. I have no fear of messengers, just the people that are enveloped in a cult mentality, that only believe their messengers, despite the facts/truth before them.
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It seems your definition might be after the first time the fertilized egg divides. If you're walking down the bike path, and see some tiny unidentifiable biological material on the ground, and I told you it was a human embryo, would you call it human life? This whole issue is made stupid by the religious right. Most normal, sane people would be just fine with just agreeing on a cut-off time, defined by doctors.
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No, I said viability was the term that legal minds were using to discuss at what point abortions should be allowed to be performed. Before viability is when the fetus is still considered to be a part of the woman's body, and protected by her right to bodily autonomy. There's 2 different term uses for viability in pregnancies. Lehnerd skynerds link discusses them both.
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That link doesn't say anything about late term abortions. The trump nonsense about abortions "after birth" is the classic fear mongering. About 93% of reported abortions in 2019 were performed at or before 13 weeks of pregnancy, 6% were conducted between 14 and 20 weeks and 1% were performed at or after 21 weeks, according to the most recent data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
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I'm fine with that term, as long as medical professionals are. No one should have to move from a state, because it's denying freedoms. You're basically calling for non-secular segregation like moving is no big deal. No idea how you missed this post: How is a baby not viable after birth?????? Viable doesn't mean it can care for itself, but rather can sustain itself without further immediate medical care. When does life begin? I'd bet you a gazillion dollars that the government would say when you were born. There's a time on your birth certificate. You then start celebrating birthdays accordingly. How many fetuses did you claim on your taxes as dependents. How many were counted on the census? Stop trying to roll it back with the same silly arguments.
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"Forced down their throats" is a favorite term they like to use. They consider any discussions against their religion to be an absolute affront to their existence. When it comes time to sound off on a hockey player using rainbow tape, that's their right to "free speech"(ie bigotry). Again, their hypocrisy is more proof that they can't think beyond step 1, and it's why trying to have a rational conversation with irrational people is impossible.
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Did the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand have an effect on anyone? It was just Serbia, right? That had more effect on the potential for who could be born than all abortions ever all put together. SOOOOO much this, but they claim it's the other side who only thinks with their feelings. LOL Like if there were a biological difference between conservatives and others, it would be the ability to think beyond step 1.
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How is a baby not viable after birth?????? Viable doesn't mean it can care for itself, but rather can sustain itself without further immediate medical care. When does life begin? I'd bet you a gazillion dollars that the government would say when you were born. There's a time on your birth certificate. You then start celebrating birthdays accordingly. How many fetuses did you claim on your taxes as dependents. How many were counted on the census? Stop trying to roll it back with the same silly arguments.
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I did and gladly will, but I wish you'd stop dodging questions yourself. Look back at previous SCOTUS discussion on the topic. It's about when the fetus can live outside the body on its own. All our current non-secular SCOTUS is doing is mucking up everything that people already agreed upon in the past, trying to turn back the clock. Their inconsistency and punting on everything is maddening. Abortion? States rights. Insurrection Clause? Not states rights. Total immunity? self-executing?? They're a complete clown show.
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World politics can have an effect on everyone. Try again. If anything, the argument should be that someone(depending on the person) birthing a child could have MUCH more effect on their lives, than if it were aborted. You'd think the group that hates poor people from stealing their taxes would understand that.
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Like I said, if what someone is doing has no effect on their lives, then it shouldn't matter. If you want to follow a religion, fine. if you want the rules of your religion to be the rules others have to live by, that's no bueno. Sometimes they forget that what they believe is simply just that, a BELIEF. Laws should be based on fact.
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At least you're admitting that your reality in PPP is far from actual reality, and keeping it a cesspool is a top priority. The fact you all laughed that the idea Jared used his considerable position in government policy making couldn't possible have anything to do with him receiving $3 billion, while a laptop with the words "big guy" are indisputable proof that Joe Biden is corrupt over a lousy $200k.
