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No kidding. The right doesn't care if 'their' SC justices are liars.

I made it about LindbergH LEADING the AFC(850k members and certainly many followers), because at the time people were saying his were the "the words of Hitler" and "straight from Berlin". The only thing I'm giving up on is that you're capable of making an OBVIOUS AF connection. The SPR IS crude oil(but only in 4 specific holding locations), no matter how much you want to pound the table that it's not, and the fact that it isn't low either. -U.S. Crude Oil Reserves - 110 Year Historical Chart | MacroTrends Bait? I'm not the one who claimed housewives sit on the couch. When you show me embellishment, I'll take the point, but that hasn't happened yet. You're just really bad at math and making obvious connections. Like I said, if Tibs and Billsy both follow Joe Biden and cheer his commie speeches, after he was pinned by Chairman Mao and Stalin personally, they're probably commies themselves. Not just "good people" mixed up with the wrong crowd. Honestly, and LD 8-year-old could make that connection, but somehow I'm the jackass of dumbassery. LOLOL Let me guess, you're only correcting my spelling, because "I make that easy" too? At least we know you're only going after what you deem to be the low hanging fruit. Yeah, no. It's pretty obvious you have an aversion to certain facts, and I happen to be providing them. I guess I won't take it personal, then.

What was Lindberg saying, that they were listening to? Why were they spewing hate at their meetings, and inviting antisemitic guest speakers, but gaining members instead of losing them? I get it, you want me to show you their Nazi party membership cards. I can't, but I can show you their America First Committee cards, though. I can only assume you're going to be a very busy boy on here asking people for proof that Americans are commies and marxists. Hope you got A LOT of free time. Because that's what homemakers do, apparently. Not imo, though. If you really want info on it, it's in the Butker thread.

Have you called anyone out for calling people commies and marxists? No, why not? You seem very eager here to claim that people who were STILL behind Lindberg, after he refused to return his medal, when they knew all the awful things that were happening to the Jews at the hands of the Nazis, weren't Nazis. You're asking me to show you gravity, when you know the best I can possibly do is explain it to you. Will you donate if I can show a post that you liked or agreed with that someone was accused of being a commie?

Can you show me one single link where anyone of the nutbars on here gleaned that ONE SINGLE American is a commie or a marxist? I can show you 10,000 posts where people make that claim, but You'd be awful busy asking them for the proof/evidence wouldn't you? Again, if Hitler and Goring are pinning you a hero, because you're helping try to spread Nazism in America, you're a Nazi yourself. If you're in the group that hero is speaking to and cheering on, I'd have to assume you're a Nazi simp at best. If it talks like a Nazi, it's a Nazi. Otherwise, I'll more than happy for you to stop calling anyone a commie, until you can provide proof of their party affiliation cards.

In case you didn't listen, they said no.

The things we could learn if we were actually allowed to have a trial and hear evidence. Probably won't ever happen, and all the people against the crooked DOJ will cheer, because they never had to hear the facts. Can we finally call them, 'the WANTED a stolen election crowd yet'??

Would it be better if we called them antisemitic American Nazi sympathizers? Have you come up with a way to explain why the group got larger the more the antisemitism rhetoric was ramped up? Any reasoning why the "good people" in the group stuck around after they knew what a horrible direction it was headed in? 850k actual members, so you must be bad at math. Anyone who remained an isolationist after Hitler was showing that defeating Europe might be a piece of cake, was not just a Nazi, but also un-American. Did they think that we'd just be good buddies with the Nazis after they conquered everything??? Maybe instead of Israel, we could have just had our across the sea Nazi buddies send us all the Jews, and we could give them Montana or something. The absolute funniest part of this whole discussion is you guys call EVERYONE commies. Try to imagine me arguing that I'm in a group, who's spokesperson was personally pinned with highest honors by Stalin and Chairman Moa, but STILL insisting I'm not a commie. Can you DIG that? /

JD tries to pick apart some of my posts. I always provide plenty of support for my arguments. GQP clowns drop LITERALLY THOUSANDS of right-wing nonsense tweets, and not a peep from him about those same tweets, that I usually tear apart with 3 minutes of research.

I think if Butker said that every family should be able to have one parent(no gender stated) at home to be the backbone of the family, and that we need an economy that supports that kind of family unit, he would have had a boatload more people on board. I don't remember ever mentioning anything about his wife. Maybe I did, but rambling???

Doc, all bad things aren't equal. Should I send you an email every day reminding you of this???

I don't recall ever doing that. When the motions surrounding this are heard in court, then I'll decide. Are you also as critical of everyone who touts every tweet of the hack Julie Kelly as truth?

Calling everyone racist? I don't think so. Calling some people who are openly anti-LGBTQ bigots? Guilty as charged. Yes, there were both Nazi and communist influences. A lot of people on here won't accept that fact that there were Nazis(or Nazi simps-just as bad), unless they were riding a panther into the Ardennes under the Waffen SS Death head banner.

When Lindberg gave his speech blaming Jews for everything, and Germany was openly doing horrible things to Jews, that might have been a good time to separate from the group. Did they? No, they became even more popular. They clearly had moved on from just an isolationist group at that time.

You don't need to be able to declassify documents by thinking about it, because you could just pardon yourself before stealing them. Who am I kidding he has total immunity from everything anyways. That my friends is called the triple twisting of fallacies, that maga is too dumb to figure out. What will him and his lawyers claim next? That he can suspend the Constitution? That he can serve more terms, because he was treated unfairly??? Oh nm, they already claimed that. Imagine how dumb you'd have to be to........ and they keep surprising us.

You need a better link than their top spokesman Lindbergh? A guy who literally was given The Commander Cross of the Order of the German Eagle by Hilter, personally pinned by Goring a few weeks before Kristallnacht. Do you think it's any surprise that after CL gave the speech I quoted before, that it's when AF was the most popular it ever was? If there were any non-Nazis in that group, they CERTAINLY would have left it after hearing that, and seeing what was happening to Jews in Germany. Some of those "good people" were AT BEST Nazi simps. So we have 850k in America First, 25k in the Bund, which is $875k ACTUAL MEMBERS of Nazi movements. I imagine they had a few friends, who weren't actual card-carrying members, which would take us easily over 1M.

AF: "Seeking to brand itself as a mainstream organization, America First struggled with the problem of anti-Semitism of some of its leaders and many of its members", according to the historian Dunn.[6] The group had some Jewish members at the outset: Sears heir and philanthropist Lessing J. Rosenwald was on the national committee; former California congresswoman Florence Prag Kahn was a member; and the first publicity director for the New York chapter was Jewish.[6] However, the automotive pioneer and infamous anti-Semite Henry Ford had joined the national committee at the same time as Rosenwald, which soon led to Rosenwald resigning.[35] In response, America First removed Ford from the national committee and also removed from it Avery Brundage, whose actions at the 1936 Berlin Olympics were associated with anti-Semitism.[6] Attempts by America First to recruit other Jewish people to the national committee found no takers.[35] As Dunn writes, "the problem of anti-Semitism remained; some chapter leaders spewed anti-Semitic accusations, while others invited anti-Semitic speakers to address their members."[6] America First tried to keep some distance between itself and the popular radio priest and fascist sympathizer Father Coughlin.[36] AF: Lindbergh was not the only person advocating for American isolationism based on notions of white supremacy, nor was he unique in suggesting that Jews were the single group most interested in involving the United States in the war in Europe. Anti-Semitic radio preacher Charles Coughlin embraced Lindbergh’s message, and Lindbergh’s public statements would serve as a prime impetus for the creation of the America First Committee in 1940. The group, which boasted a membership of 800,000, opposed American aid to the Allies and counted Lindbergh as its most prominent spokesperson. AF: The collapse of the German-American Bund was not the end of the pro-Nazi movement in the United States. The America First Committee, whose spokesperson was Charles Lindbergh, was founded in 1940 to support American isolation and Nazi appeasement. Lindbergh crossed the country to hold rallies that blamed Roosevelt and American Jews for pushing the country closer to war. The America First Committee dissolved once the United States entered World War II. Lindbergh poured particular ire on the Jews. “Jewish groups in this country,” he told the crowd, should realize that in the event of war “they will be among the first to feel its consequences.” Individual Jews, he concluded, presented a unique danger to the United States because of their “large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our Government.” Despite the alleged machinations of these groups, Lindberg reserved hope that they might cease their efforts to push the U.S. toward war. If that could be managed, he said, “I believe there will be little danger of our involvement.” Lindbergh’s address that night created a huge national controversy. It was covered on Page 2 of the New York Times and in most of the country’s major papers. Letters poured into newsrooms and America First headquarters both supporting and denouncing Lucky Lindy. The Bund reference was to show Doc that not only had Hitler used make Germany great again, but that it even spread over here into make Germany and America great again. The fact that the Bund only had 25,000 dues paying members doesn't mean that many others followed or supported them.

That's what I said, he will be able to win on border and economy hands down, but they will be gross exaggerations, and anecdotal nonsense. What he won't do is answer a single question that he is asked. He tried to lie his way through Kaitlin Collins, and he got absolutely wrecked. He will probably use that he can't talk about his trials considerably as well. That's the gift that keeps on giving for him.

It tells me that "there are, I assume, some good people, too". Just like America First might have had some good people, but that didn't stop the Nazi ones from driving all the Jews from their ranks and memberships. That was Henry Ford's job. If they had listened to these don't attack Hitler clowns, right now we'd be buying our oil from the 3rd Reich. Oh look, here's an American Nazi blending the slogans. LOL German-American Bund leader Fritz Kuhn promises to make Germany and America great once more at a rally at Irving Park and Narragansett on June 18, 1939.

He won't answer one single question, and he'll lie about every single thing, except the border and economy, which he will greatly embellish.

I was just mocking his misogyny. Maybe Mr. Butker can give the ladies a few tips on how they should like their drinks.

I already know both sides were asking twitter to selectively remove things, and that's wrong. It becomes a real problem if they try to legislate what can be posted, instead of politely asking. The difference between the two is a mountain and a mole hill here though. Silencing the opposition from presenting facts in Congress is 100x worse.

I'm not a fan of big government, but it's a fact that citizens have many times been needed to be protected to be considered equal. Can't say that there's been many times, if any, that the government was needed to protect the Christian faith. That's just the QGP rallying fear votes, which they're great at.

Still better than censoring factual speech on the floor of the House that criticizes the private citizen king, but let's talk about what the CIA may or may not have done. Remember when trump's CIA director destroyed the video evidence of torture, that got her the job??

You may not be aware of what the history of America first was, but it was a group of 1 million American Nazis, that were mimicking Hitler's Germany first platform. Also, Hitler's campaign slogan was Make Germany great again. I'm sure a lot of people aren't aware of these things, and that why they don't understand why some people are opposed to them. Just a heads up.