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Might want to Google him…

When you include the resources used in FA and resignings, the question really is, at what point are you throwing good money after bad? No one’s arguing that we haven’t had success under this current regime, but that’s a ton of resources to dedicate to one aspect of the game… May not happen next year, but if these investments don’t go better than past… it does feel like something has to happen before too long…

I acknowledged that defense is the problem. Our offense is currently made up entirely of short and intermediate route runners. To pretend that a guy to stretch the field vertically wouldn’t help with that shirt area traffic is either naive or uninformed. We spent most of our resources in FA on defense and now 6 draft picks of draft capital on defense, yet refuse to give THE MVP OF THE LEAGUE more help. I stand by my point, there are opportunities on both sides of the ball but apparently only interest in fixing one of them (and I’m lukewarm at best on the attempt there…)

Seen this sentiment a lot, and I’m sorry but it’s a terrible take. It’s like looking at your kid’s report card and seeing a B and a C and saying that they can only improve the C. Just because our defense has bigger issues doesn’t mean there’s not significant room to improve our offense, and help to provide our best and most important player… We obviously have no idea what the bird looks like, and as I said earlier, I’m fine with the pick, but to pretend like we can’t open up more opportunities on offense is silly.

🙄 fine with the player. Hate trading up for a tub’o’goo. Hate even more taking him over a deep threat…

Won't happen, but if we do end up trading Cook, Treyveon Henderson would be a fun/surprising selection

Pass on SkattePoo, kid's tough as nails but I think he's gonna get eaten alive by NFL defenses...

Yeah there's also those whispers... I think we'll have a good indication of how true those may be based on when/if he comes off the board tonight... He's unquestionably very talented, that's the kind of guy that GMs will put BS stuff out there to get him to drop. If he goes early tonight, either that was all smoke, or a team is comfortable with it. If he goes later or not at all, there's likely fire to that smoke...

That would certainly fit their previous model. Like I said, I'm just hoping for some innovation (ala more man coverage)

I'll admit that I'm projecting a lot with Emmanwori (knew I was butchering it...) but between what McDermott did with a slow and undersized cb in Jordan Poyer and the many undersized LBs he's been able to turn into productive players, AND some scheme change, I'm more or less hoping he can do something innovative with a physical specimen like him. On drafting for the future... I get it, and I've never been a fan of Oliver, but we're in our Super Bowl window and we have picks to burn. Go get a guy or two who can hopefully get us over the top.

I like Burden the player, but I'm not sure he's an ideal fit in this offense... We need a guy to stretch things vertically and he's at his best when he's running routes shorter and intermediate routes -- the same area where Keon, Shakir and both TEs are already finding heavy traffic...

Agree that they will wait on a run-stuffer, but I'd be a little surprised with 3T unless an obvious one is sitting there... Neither are my favorite, by any means, but Oliver and Ogunjobi should be able expected to give us a majority of the necessary snaps there. Emmanoari is a day-1 starter for us, Scourton and the BC guy probably get plenty of burn in pass-rushing situations, the right WR could make a big impact on this offense... I'd say package both 2s and a later pick or a '26 to move up and get back something in rd. 3...

Pass on the fat guys. Go up and get Scourton, Emmanouri (butchered that), or a WR if they like one well enough. Get difference-makers now.

Didn't see this in time, also have had about 4 seconds to study this class, so wouldn't have been confident in any pick, but my response would've been something like "barring a no-brainer edge or WR falling, I'll go with a CB. Based entirely on groupthink [because again I was pretty much completely tuned out this year] I would guess Amos, but whoever they like the best that can play man and zone"...

Perhaps. I guess I'm speaking more philosophically and based on anything else. We're pretty consistent in targeting impact positions early and 1Ts are not that... neither are safeties, for that matter... We'll find out soon enough!

In a perfect world, sure, and yes he gets his hands on his fair share of balls. But a few things to consider: 1. Even if Harmon is Chris Jones 2.0, he won't be that right away. We need impact players now. Perhaps he still impacts the run game reasonably well enough, but is that worth a first rd. pick? 2. Ultimately the draft is a game of percentages and margins -- my POV is the delta of impact between a guy like Harmon in the first, and a bigger body in the 4th or 5th is probably smaller than a top CB, edge rusher or WR. They're impact positions for a reason. 3. This is all said as a duck fan. I loved what Harmon brought to that DL, and definitely think we could do way worse. I'm just saying that both Bills draft history suggests we're looking at other positions early and general draft history suggests there will still be functional run stoppers later in the draft...

Really just comes down to how you plan on using them... I see most 1Ts as 2-down guys. Having watched Harmon play live all last season, yes, I'd say he has a touch of pass-rushing upside at the pro level, but unless Oliver goes down, he's AT BEST our 4th pass-rusher, and likely not even that... I'd just prefer -- and based on past-precedent, think the front office feels similarly -- that we use the pick on a player that can make a difference on all 3 downs and either draft a tub'o'lard later, or make a trade for a guy that fits what they're looking for using next year's picks and/or players on their way out...

This is why I don’t think it’ll be a 1T either.

With a competent QB, James Hardy could’ve been a star. And that hopefully would've saved his life. So yes, my hot take is Trent Edwards is directly responsible for a man’s death…

Great work as always @GunnerBill, I think these are all super logical and well reasoned — my one quibble might be James Pearce, whose stock sounds like js completely cratering, based off attitude and personality flags — I know you try to avoid incorporating those things, but for me the smoke is getting too thick to ignore (Mike Green could be in the same boat…). I’d be fine with Grant, definitely fills a big need, but man, if Luther Burden fell that far, I think we’d all be having Brian Thomas de ja vu feelings this time next year, he is the prototype of what this offense needs, I think… I haven’t been on the board much lately, but one thing I’ve had in my mind is the way this front office seems to be valuing (or devaluing) certain positions. If past precedent is any indication, I’d think a 2-down DT (or a safety, for that matter) probably aren’t in the cards for our first round pick. If true I’d say CB, DE or WR probably get the nod there, but perhaps they see things shifting back to a running league and want to stay ahead of things…

Haven't scoured this entire thread, so apologies if this was already brought up, buuuuut... If it's true that we're moving to more of a man-based defense, that's going to impact Benford. I don't think I'd go so far to as to say that he's exclusively a zone cb, but it would seem like a pretty massive risk making a top-5/10 positional investment in a guy who's a bit of a square peg/round hole fit. He's probably a better fit as a FS in a man defense. I wonder if those discussions are at least part of the reason why his deal hasn't gotten done yet? That's a tough situation, you want to reward the guy for significantly outplaying his draft spot and hang onto a guy who's been great for you, but a structural change within the framework is now, arguably, making that more difficult and less appealing...

I LOVE DK, but sorry man, that's a bit YIKES from me. Big big overpay. If we're packaging 2 1s, go get Luther Burden instead. His small contract, compared to DK's, would allow us to sign another impact free agent. If we can get DK for Coleman and a 2, awesome. I don't think Seattle's getting a better offer than that elsewhere. If we can't, so be it.

100% with you -- if it were up to me, I'd be using every draft pick I could on player upgrades, not rookies. I just think we need to make 3 or 4 moves with those picks, and there's obviously only a limited number we have at our disposal, so I'd be for doing what's necessary to use those picks as economically as possible. Without looking at the cap ramifications, I'd be looking at packaging Rousseau with a pick or two for Garrett or Crosby; Keon and another pick for DK, etc. No sense going all in on one deal if you can swing 2 or 3!

I did say “probably” 😂

Believe me, I know all about DK. I’m in the PNW and unfortunately the Seahawks are on here EVERY. WEEK. I agree that he’s a stud. I was also probably the most outspoken person on this board wanting him over EO in that draft, so I like him plenty. My POV isn’t that we shouldn’t go for him, just that we have limited resources to fill a lot of holes this offseason, and trading 2 picks AND taking on his big $# severely limits our abilities to affect the other needs.