Ethan in Cleveland

Because even McDermott knows these games are meaningless. He was taking very little chances for guys that are in the top 40 roster spots.

Shavers probably makes it but also probably doesn't dress. He's realistically 3rd outside WR after Palmer and Coleman. If one of those guys misses a few weeks then he could dress on game day. He's not taking inside reps. He's not a gadget guy like Samuel. He's not taking red zone reps from Coleman and Kincaid. And he's not returning kicks. That leaves gunner which we dont even know if he us any good at. Nice story but if he actually plays then they are probably not in a good spot with injuries.

Yeah that is not a bad idea. Obviously Hairston getting hurt messes everything up. But he wasnt even beating out White in camp. Safety and CB is an absolute disaster right now. It’s not alarmist when it is true. Bills are possibly going to start two guys in White and Hamlin that wouldnt even make most NFL rosters.

Not signing another veteran even before White was hurt was silly. Now with White hurt not bringing in Douglas or another vet is ego and hubris that will cost the team. The secondary is a frickin mess bordering on season destroying disaster right now. Time to stop messing around and use some draft picks to fix it.

I think so too. Thats an indictment on the backups not a testament to Hamlin's ability. But given how frail Rapp and Bishop are I wouldn't play Hamlin either today.

Yeah. Washington, Chargers then Browns I think

If Bass can't go, Browns have a PK battle right now. They may go with rookie over Hopkins. Hopkins could be a stop gap if Bass isn't 100%

They started slow last year against the Cardinals and the first string players got plenty of preseason reps. Preseason is meaningless. If Hairston was healthy, he would be the only starter I would let get a series or two of reps. Other than that every starter and prominent backup like Johnson and Knox should not even dress. If Hamlin is going to be on the 53 as safety number 3( which I hope he is not) theb hexshouldbr dress either. Should be Davis and Gore getting all the RB reps. Shavers Shenault and the gang of PS WRs get the WR reps. Will be interesting to see if Andresen sucks again. Carter too. Those two are playing themselves off the roster.

I never said wall of fame. Agree his tenure wasnt long enough. That would be like putting Bryce Paup on the wall of fame. The question was, was Diggs good? And we seem to agree he was great while here. We are quibbling over the era argument. You are correct but that only means that 88 catches in 1988 was amazing while its not that great in 2022. However when you compare to peers at the time the era doesn't matter. Lots of other teams at the time where run first too, like Dallas with Smith.

The different era argument doesn't really hold water. Compared to their peers at the time Diggs was more dominant than Reed ever was. Tim Brown had 9 seasons in a row over 1000 yards. Irvin 7 of 8 seasons in a row with over a thousand yards and the one season he did not he played in only 11 games and still had 962. Reed never led the league in receptions or yards. Diggs did both. I'm not trying to disparage the greatness that Andre Reed was. His run after catch and toughness are legendary. However what Diggs did in three years in Buffalo was extraordinary regardless of era or scheme.

100% agree. Put him on IR for the year. He is on the roster for 2026 not this year.

Beane drafted Hamlin and Johnson and I beleive at least one other guy to develop. And of course brought in Rapp. He tried. Beane wastes a pick or two every year moving up for a player. Maybe that explains lack of depth at certain places. As for Milano, he drafted two LBs in Williams and Bernard that could both play his spot while still waiting to see if Edmunds coudl play. Dont recall other LBs before that. Also had Kleine and Spector. So they had some depth along the way. The reality is there is often a significant drop off from starter to 2nd team. It's not like college where there is just another 4 or 5 star recruit waiting his turn.

In hindsight of course they would have. Great WR on a rookie deal would have been amazing. But the trade was the second best move Beane has done as GM. Andre never even had back to back 1000 yard seasons. He was a great player but the excellence we saw at WR with Diggs for three years is better than any other three year period in franchise history.

I'd rather see Cooper back. So should Beane call and apologize to the radio guys he yelled at? Seems they were right about WR.

James Lofton YPG and TD/game was better than Reed's too. 8 TDs in only 9 Bills playoff games. Belichick specifically designed a defense to take away Reed. Probably lots of playoff defenses target the #1 WR. Doesn't mean Lofton was better than Reed or Davis was a better WR than Diggs. If anything it means Kelly and Allen were mostly ( Allen >>>> Kelly) willing to take what the defense was giving. 100% agree with this. If Moulds had Kelly or Allen for most of his career he would have been compared with TO. Both with great size and speed. In terms of WR skill, it is Moulds, Diggs, Reed, Lofton, Butler in that order for me. Obviously that is not production but if you asked who are the most skilled WRs to play on Bills. Im leaving TO off as he was only here a short time at end of career.

Stefon Diggs in 9 playoff games with the Bills had 47 (5.1/game) receptions for 600(66.7/game) yards and 2 TD. Andre Reed in 21 playoff games had 85(4.2/game) receptions for 1229 yards (58/game) and 3 TDs So Diggs per playoff game stats are better in every category than the most productive WR in Bills history. Please go ahead and spin your narrative (different era, 80's teams had other options, Kelly not as good as Allen etc etc etc) to contradict my facts. I have too much to do but I'm going to guess most great WRs have lesser stats in the playoffs when they are playing the best teams. So yeah Diggs was absolutely amazing! His tenure with the Bills is the best 3 seasons of WR play in franchise history. You can hate his personality but please do not diminish what he did on the field.

How good was Randy Moss? Well he had one season over 1300 yards with Brady, and 5 season over 1300 yards with Duante Culpepper. So I guess the real question is who is really the GOAT? Looks like Culpepper is much better than Brady and Allen. Wow I didnt know Diggs played defense too? Who was he covering with 13 seconds left to play?

This is correct. Pickett has been injured the whole training camp so it was never a competition and he is garbage. Question will be do they get a 7th round draft pick or just cut him outright. Most people think Flacco starts for 4 to 6 weeks and after they start winless they turn it over to the rookies. People forget Flacco sucked last year and when he had his little run with the Browns he led the league in INT/attempt.

Isn't that the reality TV guy convicted of child porn? I mean we are desperate for a safety but I dont think so desperate to want to see a guy fondling the WRs after a tackle...

How do you grow grass in a dome?

He realized it was dam cold in Canada?

Minkah Fitzpatrick was traded on Sept 16th the year he went to the Dolphins. There are always options. Im really not convinced Hamlin is good enough for any NFL roster let alone starting on the Bills. Plenty of draft ammo. Make a move.

Really? What stats? 27th in sacks(8) last year. 25 total in 4 years. Ok I should have said struggles to be a consistent average starter. He flashes at times and then disappears for large portions of the season. Doesn't mean he can't get better. Having a better DE on the other side will help. I 100% agreed with picking up his option and the contract extension he got was fair for both sides. All love man!

Tell Beane, "there is no tomorrow". Start using those draft picks to get a decent safety and another pass rusher.

Totally bullish! It's ok to discuss the weaknesses of the team without thinking they are falling off a cliff. Not sure why the board can't comprehend this. With Allen they can compete with anyone. I still like a lot of the off-season moves. Yes safety and CB remain an issue. We would all feel a lot better if Hairston was looking like a lock down first round draft pick. Lots to worry about with White and the current group of safeties, but the pass rush can be better. Milano and Bernard are healthy. Bring on the Ravens!