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4 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
With Rosen as the starter, I absolutely think Alabama is better than the Dolphins.
I would also take Clemson over them.
You haven't watched much Clemson football this year have you? Their QB is struggling and has thrown way to many INT's. He would probably throw 3 picks in the first half against the Fish. And Rosen behind an NFL line, even a depleted sucky one, would carve Clemson AND Alabama AND Ohio State up.
If the pros were motivated, which means the winner gets $250,000 for each player and the loser gets nothing, the Fish beat any college football team by at least 7 TD's.
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Some observations from today's win:
* This might be a special team and here's why we survived a bad effort from our #1 strength the defense AND we survived a full dose of FITZMAGIC. Over the years FITZMAGIC can QB a bad team to an improbable win over a good team. We've seen it before and it's why a lot of us were nervous about this game.
* Past Bills teams ABSOLUTELY would have lost this game and seen their 4 - 1 start deteriorate into a 7 - 9 finish. Past Bills teams would not have made that INT at the 2. And if they had they would NOT have driven 98 yards for the go ahead TD. Does Tyrod or EJ or even Orton take us 98 yards to the go ahead score? You know they don't. This QB & this team are different.
* Allen is getting closer on the long balls. The 1st miss was by 5 yards but the 2nd miss was by only a yard. When he zeros in on those throws he'll start hitting them.
* People expected to much from Singleterry & Kroft. Coming back from injury after missing a substantial amount of time was likely to have them rusty. Look for BOTH players to step up next week.
* At some point Allen's 4th quarter play will translate for an entire game. His 4th quarter numbers this year are off the charts. When you listen to the great coaches talk they ALL say how important it is for a QB to be clutch in the 4th quarter. Everything else will come in time but if he's not clutch in the 4th he may never be clutch.
* One more thing, 300 yard games are nothing compared to playing well in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line. Plenty of 300 yard QB's lose the game. Very few lose games when they play well in close contests in the 4th.
5 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:We need another WR. Our passing game is brutal
We need to get more weapons, particularly of the game breaking variety, on offense. A true #1 WR is a must. I think out stable of TE's will develop into big play makers though they aren't there yet. We also need a big play RB. Gore is a HOF warrior but he's not the kind of RB that can over a game. Singleterry may be that guy but right now he isn't.
The bottom line IMO is that the offense is probably doing the best it can and if it can limit TO's and be more consistent we're a 10/11 win team this season. I also think there's an outside chance it could become more explosive with the return of Foster and a more rapid development of the TE's & Singleterry.
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I give him a B+/A-. I scored him a B in the 1st half and an A+ in the 2nd half.
In the 1st half the entire Bills O seemed to be out of sync just a bit. Three long drives all ending in FG's isn't great but a bad drop by Knox kept us out of the end zone on one of those drives. I've seen this before when a team comes back from a by week. The FACT of the matter was that the poor play of the defense likely robbed the Bills of at least 2 more possessions in the half.
In the 2nd half the D came out and allowed a spirit crushing 10 minute drive that Tre White saved with an INT at the 2. At that point I wasn't optimistic but Allen led the Bills on a 98 yard drive in which he was 5 - 5 including the game winning TD. On that drive the Bills overcame a false start & holding penalty. Allen also scored the all important 2 pt conversion on a nice run.
On the next series the D got a huge TO and Allen hit 2 nice passes to score a game clinching TD.
In the 2nd half Allen was close to perfect hitting on 10/11 passes for 112 yards and 2 TD's and he ran in the 2 pt conversion. And he again led the Bills to a 4th quarter come back victory. That gets a QB an A+ for that half in any grading system.
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57 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:
5/8 for 320 and 3 TDs. Then we start to run the clock out in the 2nd quarter
I don't know. Those stats indicate that Allen has solved his deep ball problem but the accuracy issue looks to still be there.
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5 hours ago, DCOrange said:
Just to be clear, you realize that PFF says those three are bad as well, right?
So you consider being rated #14 (Mayfield) out of 35 QB's to be a "bad" rating?
In most lists like this the top 5 - 10 would be considered Excellent; the middle 15 - 20 would be considered average and the bottom 5 - 10 would be considered "poor". So depending on how they group their list Mayfield is NOT considered bad and neither would Mariota and perhaps even Winston.
The problem with PFF and analytics in general is the over reliance on numerical ratings to try to judge the effectiveness of a QB. The game of football, unlike baseball, does not lend itself to these types of evaluations.
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Hopefully it's not serious. The league is a more boring place if a QB like Mahomes isn't out there every week.
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Looks like John Boy screwed up with his head coach selection to.
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3 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:
3rd and long check down for the win
Who needs first downs when you can boost your PFF QB rating by completing passes. It's all about accuracy didn't you know!
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9 minutes ago, BigDingus said:
I mean, it's not surprising at all. I'm sure our fans will get pissed and argue how this isn't indicative of the player he is, and that in reality he's the one QB in modern history that's a great player while simultaneously playing like he has...
There's definitely room for growth, but man does he have to get MUCH better to be a real franchise QB.Edit: Yup...after reading through some comments, of course people now are just outright dismissing PFF because they don't like what they see. Did anyone really think after watching how Allen's played so far that he'd be ranked higher than these guys? Honestly?
If they had only rated Allen poorly you might have a point. But did you check out their other QB ratings? Luckily they're not using these analytics to launch rockets - it would be ugly.
13 minutes ago, BigDingus said:Edit: Yup...after reading through some comments, of course people now are just outright dismissing PFF because they don't like what they see. Did anyone really think after watching how Allen's played so far that he'd be ranked higher than these guys? Honestly?
He's definitely playing better then Mayfield and Mariota. Can you honestly say he isn't?
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1 minute ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:
didn’t they just take Drew Lock to be the next in line?Elway is on the hot seat - or should be.
That was a big stop by the Broncos D.
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Denver looks flat. Which is surprising as this is pretty much their season. Win tonight and they're in the division hunt. Lose and they might as well tank for a shot at a good QB - which they desperately need.
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4 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:
Seconded. Give me the blowout every time. Especially with a young QB and the wonders it could do to his confidence.
Agree 100%.
Bills blowouts save me money by reducing my consumption of TUMS antacid.
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1 minute ago, CorkScrewHill said:
Not implying JA is an all time great or even overly good at this point. My points are a) these "journalists" pull a single statistic and make it overly important b) the dudes have had an axe to grind on josh allen and to an earlier posters point .. they push all Baker mayfield stuff under the rug because coming out they had JA as a bust and Baker as an all-time draft pick c) they have some serious issues with the Bills - do I think we are a top 6 team .. probably not, but as mentioned earlier they dropped the Bills from 10th to 20th after the bye .. behind Tennessee in their power rankings .. explain that... https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-week-7-power-rankings
Well said.
We all get that Allen needs to improve his game substantially to be a top flight QB. He is a work in progress and still very raw. But listening to these guys and having heard and read their other stuff about Allen you can't miss their deep bias.
All I hear about when they discuss Mayfield is that his O-line is struggling. Yet they don't think to mention that Allen was missing 3 O-line starters against TN? IMO they have very little credibility when it comes to discussing Allen.
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5 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
John Brown has made a career of being a burner and catching the deep ball. He’s a big play waiting to happen.I like Brown but at best he's a borderline big play guy. He strikes me more as a technician at WR. In Baltimore he benefited a lot from play action passes for his big completions down field. I'm not sure the Bills running game right now strikes enough fear in a team that it freezes the safeties.
1 minute ago, Bangarang said:
What point are you even arguing here?That the analytics used by PFF to rank QB's isn't worth a damn.
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2 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
How you are against the blitz isn’t meaningless. It also doesn’t mean that being good against the blitz means you’re a world beater. It’s merely a component of having to play QB. The more things you are consistently good at then the better you and your team will be. This place is so quick to dismiss things simply because Allen isn’t among the greats.And Winston, Mariota and Mayfield are?
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1 minute ago, CorkScrewHill said:
JA has a lot of room for improvement, but this list just shows you how meaningless a lot of these statistics are. Winston and Mariota 6 & 7 ... one is benched and one may be soon.
And it's not just those two. How is Baker Mayfield rated that much higher then Allen. It takes a special type of number crunching to come up with that metric.
Maybe the analytics guys are giving Winston bonus points for throwing 5 INT's in one game while Allen only threw 3. And in the case of Winston he threw his against a much weaker defense then Allen did. And maybe Mariota got bonus points for losing to Buffalo and scoring only 1 TD in the process?
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2 minutes ago, BillsFanForReal said:
I'm pretty sure it's just their general rankings. Here's their thoughts on the Tennessee game.
What a couple of tools. Seriously, you can hear the bias dripping off their tongues.
Did they even watch the game? "Allen is completing passes but he's still not accurate Bills fans"? What the hell does that even mean? Are these two morons saying that in all those short pass completions the receivers were having to make circus catches?
They seem concerned that Allen isn't making "Big Plays" but who on that offense are the "Big Play" guys? Maybe Foster & Singleterry who were both out. And did these two numbskulls even realize that the Bills were without THREE startling offensive lineman?
I know I should just ignore these guys but it's hard to ignore STUPID when it's in your face.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
I was told they would struggle vs Bama. Someone is lying!
Remember they were saying the same thing abut the Bills until the Minnesota game!
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7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
I don't think Fitz is just blowing smoke up our butts here. Belichick said a similar thing and I suspect that there is a growing sense among players & coaches that something is being lost in these Taj Mahal football palaces that resemble super malls more then stadiums. New Era field is one of only a few NFL stadiums on any given Sunday that has that college football vibe going on.
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Just now, Stank_Nasty said:
I've paid little attention to them... exactly how banged up are they up front? do you know off hand?
i'm with you on fitz. not super worried but his hot streaks plant a seed in the back of my mind.
I've just heard that they were banged up and not very good when healthy except for the center who is solid. I saw the tweet from the Miami beat writer today (it's on the pre-game thread) quoting Flores as sounding pessimistic that their center will be able to go Sunday.
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IMO starting Fitz does in fact increase, however slightly, the chance that Miami springs an upset or keeps the game close. With Rosen there was ZERO chance of a close game let alone an upset but Fitz has shown that he can catch fire. It will be important for the Bills to bring their A game and let Fitz know in the 1st quarter he's in for a long day.
Now that I've gotten my worry wart side out of the way this might also be a move forced on Flores by the likelihood that Miami will be without their starting center Sunday. As banged up and ineffective as the Dolphins O-line is the loss of the center might make it almost impossible for them to move the ball. Throwing Rosen to the wolves might be something that Miami isn't ready to do yet.
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23 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:
the 90's Bills ran something similar towards the end of their run that sticks out to me, but mostly because it flat out usually didn't work at the time and I would always be frustrated when they called it. But hey, if modern D's aren't prepared for it, carry on Dabs until they prove they can stop us!
Yep I remember it to. It seemed to always get blown up. Remember in the playoff game at Rich Stadium against Jacksonville that we lost? Kelly tried a shovel pass and it was INTERCEPTED!
The difference today is that they're doing it off a jet sweep to a lesser known player. Back in the day it was a static two yard forward pitch to Thomas who the other team was keying on!
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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Don’t forget the fumble lost. 3 TD 2 TO.
Did you watch the game? Perhaps I haven’t watched him enough but I was frankly startled. He threw a number of incompletions that could have been picked, and perhaps should have been, and that would have been called out as inaccurate throws and poor decisions if he were Allen.
As key weapons are lost and defensive coordinators adjust to how the loss of those players impact a QB like Mahomes the more he starts to look mortal. This is a normal condition of the NFL. Mahomes is a great QB and will bounce back.
But you're right over the last couple of games Mahomes has made some throws that would have gotten Allen clobbered by certain posters.
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25 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:
That's the exact kind of pass I was talking about. That exact pass could happen with Allen to Zay and it would have been a pick. People would be screaming that Josh shouldn't have made that throw... those same people will praise the throw from Mahomes.
This is so true and is the reason Zay is in Oakland.
Almost every NFL game I watch I hear the announcers talk about how a receiver had to "become a defensive back on that play". This is a MINIMUM requirement for an NFL WR.
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Josh Allen - week SEVEN report card
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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And you think they could beat a Rosen QBed Dolphins team? It would be over by half time and it would be ugly for any college football team.