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All it took was a loss to Michigan for OSU to finally show some guts. UM should get half that trophy if they win.
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3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:
Why?
Garrett publicly basically said he wants out of Cleveland. Browns are most likely going to blow up the roster as the oline has gotten old quick and they have no QB.
Very good chance Garrett is traded.
Probably will take two #1s and a huge contract extension.
Problem is Bills first round draft picks will be very late round picks.
Browns won't trade to Cinci. But there is probably a team that is out if the playoffs and has a QB now that might make the move. Maybe a team like Miami, AZ, or the Bears.
Garrett didn't say he wanted out of Cleveland. He said he wanted to be there his entire career. He did say he didn't want to have a full rebuild.
With a competent QB, Cleveland is still a playoff team. The Watson contract makes that tough, but not impossible. Cleveland keeps carrying over huge cap numbers every year that help offset his numbers. If they can land a good rookie QB or even a veteran QB on a cut contract for cheap, they'll be ok. I hate the long term idea of Cousins, but if you can pay him minimum while Atlanta pays his contract, you can compete. Rumors of Minnesota entertaining trading McCarthy too, which could be interesting.
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On 1/3/2025 at 10:51 AM, Mat68 said:
I think Allen wins and it’s all but over. Jackson has to play to secure the division. Allen locked his up a month ago. Better record less talent around him. Take into account fumbles Allen has less turnovers. Jackson is having a fantastic season. Having the leading rusher in the conference has greatly helped that.
Comparing the AFC North to the AFC East is laughable. The Bills locked it up a month ago because overall, its one of the worst divisions in football.
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54 minutes ago, JMM said:
I think he could be the piece that we hoped that Von was going to be. He could be this teams Reggie White to GB move. Only 29 still. However I would not be willing to give up a #1 for him. One of our seconds for sure, but what else would it take? Assuming they would even move him of course.
The fact that you claim you wouldn't give up a #1 for most likely the best defensive player in the NFL is past Madden absurdity. It's starts at likely 2 #1 and 2 #2 or some close combination.
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20 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
He’s usually good for one bone headed play a game, I think bc they’ve gotten out to these big leads he hasn’t felt the pressure that has led to some of his picks etc. but I would say the same for Ewers, he likes to give it up
Ewers honestly has been bad lately. Very careless with the ball.
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37 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:
They have had an edge for sure but tbh I think the Michigan loss was way more on the coaches and the game plan than anything with the players. Coaches Not playing to their strengths, obsessed with trying to prove they were tough and running into the strength of the Michigan DL ; not letting their absurd WR talent win for them. As long as they keep doing what they are doing, they will beat anyone. It also took awhile for the OL to gel again after losing two all Americans to injury. I think the edge we are seeing now too is from these seniors who are now playing with a tremendous opportunity in front of them. The buckeyes as an underdog are very scary, as a favorite not as much but they were favored bc Oregon and still came out like that. Will they beat Texas by 20 probably not, will they find a way to win, I could see it.
OSU will win if they continue to pass the ball. It will all depend on Howard. He is somewhat turnover prone, so if Texas can pressure him and not let give the receivers time to get open, then have a shot. If they let them receivers run free, OSU wins by 10+.
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On 12/25/2024 at 3:04 PM, EasternOHBillsFan said:
He still counts even though you say he doesn't.
Burrow doesn't count. He played zero meaningful snaps at OSU. He is the product of LSU. Stroud has a chance to be the big OSU QB they have lacked in the NFL, but Burrow isn't it.
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5 minutes ago, Process said:
This drive was up 28-7 in the 4th quarter LOL
The drive ended with 10:46 left. Started at the beginning of the 4th or possibly late 3rd. That's not really "padding stats" time.
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3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:
I am not against NIL. I think that it should be regulated but I don't see how it can be unless the players form a union, but; even that seems like a difficult if not unlikely scenario. My question is: Do you think that NIL will decrease the quality of play both in the NCAA and the NFL?
I ask this because I suspect that it may. Kids out of high are paid school hundreds of thousands of dollars, and I'm thinking that not many of them are equipped to handle this. I know that I wouldn't want to take a hit from Ruben Foster if I had a million dollars in my pocket.
I also suspect that it will be harder for coaches to instill discipline in these kids, especially for "Saban style" coaches. This is obviously why he quit. He talked about the value of discipline for his entire career. This was an instrumental part of why he (and his players) were so successful, and countless players do and will attest to this. Now, a player can tell a coach to "f*^k off" and go sign with another team. I just can't see how this will not hurt the quality of play for many of the kids both short and long term.
What am I missing?
You're not entirely wrong, but coaches have been able to tell players to "f off" for years. In theory, a coach could have signed a whole entire class to binding LOI, and then leave the next day with no penalty. If the player then decided to transfer the day the coach left, he would have to sit out a year at the new school before being able to play, while the coach could start immediately. And coaches are getting paid $10+ million per year now in college, and the players were making nothing. College football especially is now generating billions of dollars per year, so while it is insane to see what some of these players are making, they should be able to make whatever money they can. Should the market set your salary rate, or should their be some agency that determines what you are allowed to make?
I am not saying the new system is perfect because it isn't, but why would the players agree to a cap?
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4 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
No way it can be illegal, it's done in every league
Yes, a professional league. The money going to the college players is essentially endorsements, which can't be capped.
The NFL can't cap endorsements either, just salary. And it can prevent side deals to circumvent the cap through the league, but not outside endorsements.
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5 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said:
I say no portal until all bowl games are played and if you sit out the bowl game, you can't enter the portal.
I also say you must stay 3 years at the college you committed to,before you can enter the portal. Drafted into the NFL you must stay with the team that drafted you for 4-5 years. I believe anyone team owns your rights for 3 years.
You can only enter the portal twice.
There needs to be a salary cap implemented just like the pros.
A college salary cap has already been ruled illegal.
If we're trying to implement these rules, then make the rules for coaches as well.
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39 minutes ago, Big Turk said:
Why? The team with the better QB has the advantage in the playoffs unless the other team has a huge advantage on defense which they do not.
And one of the best ways to nullify a great QB is to control the clock, which the Lions are very capable of.
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12 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
Who started a giant brawl? The guy who planted the flag and those who went to defend him. Sawyer had the flag but the guy who planted it wanted to fight. Don't start something with people and then cry when they defend themselves I say...
Did you watch the post game at all? Michigan planted the flag, and OSU's team ran back and started fighting at mid field. The guy with the flag when Sawyer took it was AFTER the original fight. And again, I don't agree with him doing that at all either.
Michigan was midfield with the flag, and when OSU saw it, they ran back and started pushing/fighting. AFTER getting the fight settled, then I agree, the Michigan player instigated the 2nd fight by taking the flag back through the OSU players.
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41 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
Texas/Michigan and Oregon/Michigan aren't bitter rivalries, so your first point makes absolutely no sense.
It shows that schools can plant flags and not lose their crap over it. I don't agree with the flag planting, I think it's a dumb new fad, but it doesn't have to turn into a giant brawl over it. To me it's like running up the score. I don't agree with that either, but in same breath, if you don't like it, stop them. If OSU didn't like it, win the game.
Sarkisian for Texas said: ""There is a way to win it with class," Sarkisian said. "I just didn't think it was the right thing to do... We shouldn't be planting any flags on their logo." This is this week, after allowing his team to do it earlier in the year.
Again, I think it's stupid when anyone plants a flag. But it is also stupid to start a giant brawl over it as well.
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1 hour ago, GaryPinC said:
Hopefully after 4 years, Day will realize he needs to turn the offense over to someone else. I can imagine him being told that by the AD as a condition for staying, hopefully it happens that way.
Didn't he do that this year with Chip Kelly?
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On 12/1/2024 at 1:55 PM, boyst said:
I think it's a by product of the product of the NIL and players protecting their interests/image for the NFL.
A lot of players don't engage in the gritty attitude and act soft. Id bet most of the players who acted out yesterday, especially the ichigan player carrying the flag late, don't have a future beyond a drive thru.
It's amazing, but Texas and Oregon planted flags on Michigan's field earlier this season, and miraculously, no fights broke out. I don't like it, but it's becoming a somewhat normal thing to do in today's college football. OSU is full blown fake tough guy with Day.
And I agree that the player taking the flag through the OSU team after the fight was over is wrong. At that point, both teams needed to just move on, not instigate another fight. How do you feel about the 3-4 OSU players who attacked the Michigan sideline reporter (who just so happened to be former Michigan and Eagles receiver Jason Avant) picking up the flag after Sawyer threw it?
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4 hours ago, SirAndrew said:
Yeah, Ohio State seems incapable of creating a passing game against decent opponents. Day was successful with CJ Stroud, but has now failed with McCord and Howard. Neither of those guys are Stroud, but Ohio State is always loaded with receiver talent, and that should mean something. It’s like Day enjoys old school Big Ten battles that emphasize defeating the opponent physically, but that plays exactly to Michigan’s strength.
To me it almost feels like he is out to prove he is "tough." The Lou Holtz thing almost broke him, because he is not on a mission to show everyone how tough they are. He seems like an insecure little kid that has to do something when someone said they shouldn't.
Day is a great offensive coach, but he can't get out of his own way. Play to your strengths, which is "finesse" football. Instead he seems to try to play smashmouth football against a legitimate smashmouth team, and that doesn't work.
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53 minutes ago, jcamm1966 said:
I'm writing a blank check to Mike Varbel now get a NFL DC and OC from the Rams tree or lions tree
Vrabel doesn't want to coach college. He hates recruiting and the NIL.
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4 hours ago, GaryPinC said:
Jeremiah Smith 5 for 35 yards. That's a sick joke.
No cohesive offensive strategy, no balance, effort to establish Howard and his targets.
That was the worst coaching job on one side of the ball since 2018 when Harbaugh's DC played a base defense nonstop the entire game en route to getting blown out by OSU.
There's a lot to like about Ryan Day but it's no longer enough. Chip Kelly to the rescue! Not.😂
Michigan forced OSU to have Will Howard beat them, and Howard proved that he is what he was at KSU......average. He has more weapons than anyone in college football, but if you make him throw to win, he often can't. He has "looked" great this year, but he always seemed to still have struggles against averahe to above average defenses, especially when he has to be one dimensional.
The coaching also proved that is wasn't McCord that was the problem. Great job with a $20M roster.
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17 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:
No, they're not.
They've a slightly better oline, although their interior is slightly overrated. The RB room is similar, Kincaid and Laporta are similar but Kincaid has more elite skills. Knox is better than any of the lions other tes. Shakir is a faster version of amon ra. Buffalo has better wrs outside that.
Buffalo has a much greater QB who doesn't need a powerful running game to still be great. That has been proven over the years ad nauseum and was proven yet again vs the second best team in the NFL with the chiefs... Buffalo has better edges and can get an organic pass rush. The lions can't without hutch. Buffalo lbs are better especially with Milano back and anzalone hurt. CBS are even but Benford is the best right now and Douglas/ Elam have more experience. Lions have better safety talent
QB - Allen is better than Goff, no doubt. But Goff is also playing really well this year overall. Rough game against Houston.
RB - The running backs aren't that similar. Davis is looking much better the last few weeks to make it closer, but Detroit's room is better. They have the best 1-2 punch in the NFL right now. Montgomery is Detroit's 2nd rusher, and he had 1 less yard rushing than Cook.
WR - With Cooper now, Buffalo is probably a little better than Detroit, but it's all debatable. Saying Shakir is St. Brown but faster is laughable. St. Brown had more yards last year than Skakir has had in a 2.5 year career, and that's with the better QB.
TE - Buffalo has a slightly better room overall, but Kincaid isn't better than LaPorta. But Knox is better than anyone else that Detroit has.
OL - I agree that Detroit's OL is better.
DL - With Hutch hurt, I would agree that Buffalo is better on the edge, but Detroit added Za'Darius Smith, who is still above average. He is especially good against the run. For the interior, Detroit is better.
LB - I give Buffalo the edge here. Even with Anzalone, Buffalo is likely better.
Secondary - Buffalo probably has the CB edge, and Detroit has the S edge.
As we all know, having the best players doesn't always mean the best team. The teams overall are pretty close in talent, but I feel like Detroit is playing the best football right now. Obviously Buffalo is playing great too.
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1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:
Lions are a really good team, very physical and good balance.
Buffalo is a great team with a great QB...
The Lions aren't just a good team, they're the best team in the NFL right now. Goff isn't Allen, but Detroit's weapons are better.
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18 hours ago, Mikie2times said:
Check out this love tap by Watt
That's like the 5th time Watt has done this too. Most of them aren't anywhere near the ball either.
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8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Za’Darius Smith would be the best realistic player we could acquire. The $ fits.
But, I expect Ravens or Lions get him
Rumors are that Smith will be a Lion tonight or tomorrow.
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3 hours ago, jcamm1966 said:
My bad, BTW Ward playing for Browns JOK put on IR no trading him now
They just extended JOK before the season, no trading him either way.
Mike Vrabel - Now hired as the new Patriots coach
in The Stadium Wall
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There is literally no logic in this statement. Belicheck is a great coach but struggled greatly in the FO role, especially later in his career. Wait and see how Wolf's draft looks in a year or 2, and see how they do this year. The team was short on talent due to Belicheck.