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  1. 2 minutes ago, Captain_Quint said:

    I think we ran it 4 times last night and got a first each time.

     

    And the league has already said they are addressing it in the offseason, so it's as good as gone once the playoffs end. 

     

    They didn't get it once, on 3rd down.  I believe they ran it again and got it on 4th though.

  2. Just now, streetkings01 said:

    Would you say the Jets, Jags, Patriots or Broncos are better than the Bills? 

     

    On a certain day, they could be.  It would be like the Jets making the playoffs after the Bills win the division.  Alabama won the SEC in a head to head with Georgia.

  3. 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said:


    Sabin with 2 TO in a row to get a play in and that’s the play they come up with lol

     

    That was my exact thought.  At least let Milroe get outside and then have the option to throw or run. 

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  4. 1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

    Its factual. you're making an emotional reply that kind of shows you don't have facts to prove it.

     

    And yeah, in the street you punch back till there isn't a threat. 

     

    Much of the world knows color Rev evolutions including the Euromaidan are Western backed and a way to change regimes without a war.  it's kind of our MO.  Kissinger was a fan (Pinochet), and Hillary learned from her. taught Nolan to boot. 

     

    you are aware that Russia didn't attack any Kiev Infrastructure or government installations (the Ukrainian leader was still living in their version of the white house) till Ukraine escalated by drone attacking the Kremlin.  then Russia came back with Super Sonics that destroyed the patriot batteries we gave them and the people running them.

     

    When did it start, when will it end.

     

    how did it start, how will it end?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Counterattacking is not escalating.  And who cares about government facilities?  Russia is targeting apartments, hospitals, neighborhoods.  They are intentionally murdering hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians.  Raping women and children.  Killing POWs.  But Ukraine shouldn't fight back.  Shouldn't counterattack?

     

    Most Russians don't want to continue the war.  There is 1 man who does, and unfortunately, he is the one calling all the shots.  They are essentially murdering their own citizens as well (conscripts sent to the front with no weapons and little to no training), and then not even paying the standard for a service death.  

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  5. 2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

    Or, just maybe the ukes using UK supplied weapons in krimea and led to the escalation. 

     

    Last time the first thing they targeted were our patriot batteries and the people using them were massacred.

     

    If someone punches you, do you just stand there and take it?  Do you simply give in, and continue to get hit until you give you attacker whatever they are after?  Or do you hit back? 

     

    To blame Ukraine for "escalation" as Russia bombs most of their country and tries take large chunks of it, all while committing countless war crimes, is insanely stupid.  Russia, for decades, has been able to bully the entire region and get away with it.  The rest of the world finally got tired of the bully and is trying to help out.  Doesn't make Russia the victim all of a sudden.

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  6. 15 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

    So Ukrainian elections are legit. the others are not.

     

     

    You won't be happy till you made all your profits and there are no more able-bodied men in that country.

     

    you're the one making money. you're the one promoting carnage that's killed and maimed a huge portion of the population.

     

    it will take them decades to catch up from this. no matter the outcome

     

     

     

     

     

    How is supporting Ukraine promoting carnage?  I have no idea about the Ukrainian elections.  I'd hope they are legit, but obviously anything is possible.  Ignoring that portion, Russia invaded Ukraine, so they are promoting the carnage.  Russia has reportedly lost upwards of 350,000 soldiers.  They are simply feeding them into the grinder and hoping for results.  And for what?  I will acknowledge there is greater politics at work here, but that's very much on both sides.  Ukraine is supposed to just be conquered, or give up large chunks of their land?  Or just lay down and be slaughtered?  

     

    Russia is committing war crimes non stop.  Murdering civilians, executing POWs, raping women and children.  But yeah, Ukraine is at fault.

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  7. 5 minutes ago, gflande1 said:

    Don’t understand how delay of game works…so Philly is in a hurry, so the opposing D needs to hurry as well? Also, the giants player was on the ground with the ball…thinking he recovered the ball and a Philly player came over to wrestle the ball away from him, neither was attempting to get back to the LOS.  Just don’t understand the rule…please explain 

     

    The NY player stayed on Hurts after the tackle,  and then picked up the ball as Philly was trying to get set. It was very obviously not a fumble.  It was an easy call.  I have no horse in the race and was calling for it even before they threw the flag. 

  8. 2 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

    It's a bit of a reach, but the Ravens should wear throwback Cleveland Browns uniforms when they next play the Cleveland Browns version 2.0. 🤔

     

    They can't.  The Titans are the Oilers. The deal when the Ravens moved is that they AREN'T the Browns. Cleveland kept all the rights. 

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  9. 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

    What happened when the committee stupidly let Cincinnatti in? Oh, I know.....they got destroyed by Alabama.  That is how it works when second rate, or even fairly good teams get to the playoffs.

     

    They beat Cincinnati by 21, and beat Georgia by 17 in the SEC Championship.  So it's not that big of a difference.  Alabama also barely beat bad Florida, LSU, and Auburn teams that year, and lost to and average Texas A&M.

     

    Like others have said, why play the games if none of it matters?  The SEC was 7-9 vs other Power 5 conferences this year.  OSU won the Championship, and beat Alabama, with a 3rd string QB.

  10. On 11/30/2023 at 6:54 PM, folz said:

     

    About an hour ago I added the following comparison of Josh, Mahomes, and Hurts to the other thread (Alpha's thread). So, I thought I would put it in here too, just for added information on the subject:

     

     

    Three QB comparison, last 4 years (2020-2023 seasons) [Didn't have time to do more than the 3 QBs, but figured it would be a good picture at least, 3 current top QBs]:

                             Total Attempts (pass + rush)              Total Turnovers (INTs + FL Lost)             Turnover %        Total TDs (pass + rush)          TD %               

    Allen                                2,628                                                        74                                                2.8                                162                             6.2                    

    Mahomes                        2,547                                                        53                                                2.1                                145                             5.7

    Hurts                               1,879                                                         42                                                2.24                              99                              5.3

     

    Averages per season (2020-2023):

                                   Attempts               Total TOs            Total TDs

    Allen                          657                        18.5                     40.5

    Mahomes                  636.75                   13.25                  36.25

    Hurts                         469.75                    10.5                    24.75

    [If you prorate Hurts to the same number of attempts as Josh, his turnovers would rise to 14.7 and his TDs to 34.6.]

     

    So, yes, Josh has a lot more turnovers than Mahomes and Hurts overall, but on more attempts and also with more TDs. His TO% is indeed the highest, but so is his TD%. [And as far as attempts go, Mahomes is too close to Josh for it to probably make any significant difference; but if Hurts had 750 more attempts, it is likely that his turnover % would go up from where it is---just by odds].

     

    Josh averages 1.09 turnovers/game and 2.38 TDs/game (net +1.29 TDs)

    Pat averages .78 turnovers/game and 2.13 TDs/game (net +1.35 TDs)

    Jalen averages .62 turnovers/game and 1.46 TDs/game (net +.84 TDs)

     

    So, in comparison to Mahomes, Josh has averaged 5 more turnovers per season, but also 4 more TDs per season

    In comparison to Hurts, Josh has averaged 8 more turnovers/season, but also 16 more TDs per season

     

     

    Another possible way to look at it (besides TDs) is number of yards per turnover:

                                 Total yards (2020-2023)           Total TOs                 Yards/turnover

    Allen                                      18,736                                  74                               253.12

    Mahomes                            19,098                                  53                              360.34

    Hurts                                     10,911                                   42                              259.79

     

    So, from a yardage standpoint, Mahomes is far out ahead. But, Hurts and Josh are pretty close.

     

     

    All things considered, I think Josh's yardage, TDs, and IT factor far outweigh the high turnover percentage in relation to any QB not named Mahomes. But, boy, if he could get that turnover rate down a bit...

     

     

    As a counter point though, compare Allen's first 3 years as a starter to Hurts first 3 years as a starter.  Allen was much better as he went along, so your aren't fully comparing apples to apples, especially with Hurts.  Also, only going by lost fumbles skews it a bit as well.  I have no idea how many fumbles in general, but lucking into your own team recovering doesn't mean that the player didn't fumble.  

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  11. 1 hour ago, TAinLack. said:

    I just felt that a very good freshman QB in McCord would eventually make a mistake that would cost them the game JMTC.  In addition, Harrison should of been utilized more, he's a game changer.  On another note, I thought Urban Meyer was as neutral as possible and offered up great commentary in the pre and post-game analysis.

     

    McCord is a junior. 1st year starter,  but he is the same recruiting class as McCarthy. 

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  12. 2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

     

    Still, why doesn't Brady attend the game? Trying to get an answer to that one...

     

    What does that matter? I have no idea why.  He has been back several times since Harbaugh is been to speak to the team, so I don't think there is any animosity at this point.  

     

    What are you trying to get at,  and what does Brady have to do with the game today? 

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  13. 2 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

    Buckeyes 30, Some Team in Yellow and Blue 13.

     

    The Buckeyes defense is insane this year and that yellow and blue team hasn't played anybody other than PSU.

     

    Ever wonder why Tom Brady isn't there at the game? It's bizarre

     

    OSU played basically the same schedule,  plus ND. ND is better than the rest of Michigan's schedule for sure,  but they're not a top tier team either.  

     

    It should be a close game, especially as Michigan's offense hasn't looked great the past few weeks, and like usual,  this game is a toss up. 

     

    24-20 UM.

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  14. On 11/16/2023 at 10:27 AM, Mark80 said:

    Schools over stadiums lawsuit seems to be the only chance left.  As an A's fan for 35 years, this sucks.  Taking one of the oldest franchises with over 55 years in a huge market to one of the smallest markets in the league.  Makes no sense.  Such a greedy POS. 

     

    I do 100% agree with the greed, but even as a large market, they average less than 10,000 fans per game.

  15. 43 minutes ago, Chaos said:

    A couple of concrete suggestions:

     

    1) Defensive Pass Interference is the single biggest game changer.   I think the rules would be much improved if there were two versions of DPI (like there is with fask masking, or roughing the kicker).  Flagrant/Intentional spot foul as it is now.  Incidental, same as defensive holding, five yards automatic first down.  Obviously this involves some judgement, still but I think it would be better. 

     

    2)Roughing the Passer.  Another game changer. Like roughing the kicker, I feel like there needs to be a five yard and 15 yard version.   Again, it involves judgement, but I think we all know that when they wait until Patrick Mahomes requests the RTP call, it likely means it was not flagrant, as one example. 

     

     

    There aren't 2 facemask penalties anymore.  They are all 15 yards.

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  16. 10 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

     

    It sure was... defenseless receiver in the back of the end zone. A dirty hit and targeting... 

     

    Shoulder to shoulder. That's not targeting.  It's was even overturned on review.  

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