Inigo Montoya

Jinx!!! 😉

This is what solid GM work looks like. What a difference Beane has made for this franchise. He needs to be the next extension announced.

After letting Hopkins go they had to lock down Watson or the city of Houston would have burned to the ground and Bill O’Brien’s body would have been the kindling.

I’m calling 911 for Bill Belichick and the Pat’s obnoxious fans. It will be so much fun listening to them cry after getting crushed in their first post Brady Era game. 😃

I’m making the call. The Phins go into Foxborough Week 1 and crush the Pats. Fitz’s teammates will rally around him and they will dominate the Pats to help Fitz honor his mother. It won’t even be close. Book it.

One of my favorite former Bills. Hope he and his family are OK.

The Josh Allen hate on the Jets' message board is crazy. They definitely have a high opinion of Darnold as well. I tend to agree with them, on the Darnold part at least. I think Darnold can be an above average QB in this League and if Darnold had come to the Bills instead of Allen, Darnold would be ascendant. As it is, I think Darnold has had about as much success on that dysfunctional team as he possibly could have. You just can't overstate how important it is for a rookie QB's success to go to a franchise that has the ability and patience to support their development.

Lol Yeah, definitely not my finest TBD moment...

Live shot of Brandon Beane working on the Ngakoue trade Offering a conditional 2023 5th round pick and a pair of old gym socks

Yeah, you're probably right R.N. My bad... @BruceVilanch ?

Thanks, I didn't know that.

No you weren't. You were told a solid back up QB is insurance to protect a team's chances during a championship run. I would take issue with you for deliberately misrepresenting my position but I think it was probably just an honest mistake on your part, more of a reading comprehension issue.

There is no way Beane signs Ngakoue without having an agreement already in place for an extension. He isn't Bill O'Brien. I would love to add a DE like Ngakoue if they can get the numbers right. If you cut Murphy or trade him you clear a lot of cap space that can go towards Ngakoue's contract. Addison is 32 and obviously isn't the long term answer here. This Bills roster is on the cusp of being a legit Super Bowl contender. An elite DE may be the final piece of the puzzle. This is why you manage your cap wisely so that when an opportunity like this comes up you have the means to take advantage of it. This move might be the one that puts this team over the top. I'm all for it if Beane can make it happen.

All fair points Rochester. In an odd way I think you underscore my point. We honestly don't know what we have on this roster when it comes to backup QB. Could Barkley, Fromm, or Webb rise to the occasion and play lights out for a stretch this season? I guess it's possible, but admittedly it's not very likely. For a team that I believe has a real shot to win a Super Bowl this year for the first time in over 20 years, and that has available cap space, I think shoring up the backup QB position should be an important consideration. If we had offered Dalton $5 mil this year ($2 mil more than the Cowboys did) would that have been enough to lure him out of going home to Texas to backup Prescott this year? I don't know. I think it would have been $5 mil well spent though. If we have to run Matt Barkley out of the tunnel to start weeks 8, 9, and 10 against the Pats, Seahawks, and Cardinals I think we would all be jumping at the opportunity to bring in Dalton at that price. Just my opinion. I understand your position though.

Jim is still healing up. Kelly Strong Jimbo!!! I'd take Frank Reich and send our AFC competitor the Indianapolis Colts into total disarray scrambling to replace their head coach with only three weeks until the season opener.

After graduating college and playing in the USFL for a couple of seasons Jim Kelly finally joined the Bills. He didn't have a winning season with the Bills until his third season. Let's give Allen a little more time to see where he ends up. I think Josh might end up being special in his own right. Not too many Jim Kelly's out there.

We have the deepest, most talented roster since the Marv Levy / Jim Kelly Super Bowl Era. I just wish we had a Frank Reich.

I think back up QB is the one glaring hole on our roster heading into the 2020 season. Not only do we have to worry about a regular injury to Josh Allen this year, we also have to worry about him coming down with COVID19 and missing several games while he recuperates. We don't have another QB on this roster that I have confidence in to step into the lineup for three weeks and win us 1 or 2 games. I was really hoping we would make a run at Andy Dalton when he was released. How valuable was having Foles, Bridgewater, and Tanneyhill for the Eagles, Saints, and Titans over the last few seasons? I know there are only so many quality QBs that become available each year, but I think that when you are putting together a team that has a legitimate shot at winning a championship, you need to make an investment in a quality backup QB. I think it's worth $3-4 million a year in cap space to do so, especially when your starting QB is still on his rookie contract. To put that amount into perspective, that's half of what Beane will pay Trent Murphy this year to be a rotational DE. Dalton is getting $3 mil from the Cowboys this year. This year the depth of your roster is going to be more important than ever due to COVID19. We have quality depth at just about every position on the field except for the single most important one. I do not mean to bash Beane with this post. I am a huge Brandon Beane supporter and I think it's a miracle where we stand today compared to where we were just three years ago. That improvement is due in large part to how well Beane has done his job. Maybe he has tried but was unsuccessful in signing a quality backup. Who knows? At the end of the day I would just feel a lot more comfortable going into this season with someone more accomplished than Matt Barkley holding a clipboard next to Josh Allen. I think it is hard to dispute that backup QB is the single biggest hole on our roster heading into the 2020 season. I hope it doesn't cost us.

It could also be that he was still playing because he liked the culture, locker room, and coaches in Buffalo. Maybe when he got to San Fran and got a sense of the team he realized that he wasn't going to enjoy it as much as he had in Buffalo. He probably already has more than enough money to retire comfortably (the Jets gave him a big contract when he left the Washington Football Team) and simply decided to call it a day. Either way, he is a part of the Bills' family now and I wish him all the best in retirement.

Agree 100% Logic. Nice thread bye the way... MacCagnan was a terrible GM and knew the writing was on the wall for him and tried what a lot of GMs do to try and save their job when things start to circle the drain, bring in the big, flashy free agent signing to try and turn things around quickly. As usual, it didn't work. What good is a RB without a line to run behind? Joe Douglas is an Ozzie Newsome disciple and seems to know what he is doing and I expect him to bring the Jets back to a competitive level in just a couple of seasons. We have a two year head start on the Jets at this point. Douglas is building a stock pile of draft picks and clearing cap space to lure in a solid head coach after this season. He has a good QB already on the roster and is trying to rebuild the O-Line just like Beane did. They have some solid pieces on defense too. I think the Jets' head coaching job will be a highly coveted gig after this season. I wouldn't be surprised to see Josh McDaniels end up there. Lets hope the Bills can strike while the iron is hot with all three of our AFCE foes going through major transitions right now.

Yep, that’s why they brought in Lamar Miller. Not sure if Michel will be ready for Week 1, but he shouldn’t miss much time.

I've seen several reports that Cam Newton looks like he is fully recovered from his injury / surgery and is throwing and moving well in the Pat's camp. With Cam Newton being the QB Josh Allen is most often compared to, it will be interesting to watch those guys play each other two times this year. Of course they don't really play each other with both being on offense, but the match up will be fun regardless. How do the two teams QBs and teams match up head to head? I put 8 categories down in no particular order and my opinion on which team/QB has the advantage. 1.) QB Rushing: Advantage Bills/ Allen. I think Josh has the edge here. He is younger and his body is still in one piece. Cam saw his career on life support last season because of the punishment his body has taken. I think he might be a bit more conservative when it comes to running the ball going forward. Allen is a major part of the Bills rushing offense and is likely to remain so. Allen was responsible for 1 out of every 4 rushing yards last season and scored 9 of the offenses' 13 rushing TDs. 2.) System Knowledge: Advantage Bills/Allen. This one seems pretty straightforward. Allen is in the the same system year 3, Cam is in a new system with a truncated preseason. 3.) Coaching: Advantage Pats/Cam. I'm a big McDermott fan and he is getting better, but no one is Belichick's equal with in-game management. He just doesn't make mistakes. Bastard. 4.) Receiving Corps: Advantage Bills/Allen. The Bills offense clearly now has one of the most skilled WR1/2/3 sets in the NFL. The Pats always had Tom who could elevate the play of whatever WRs they fielded, but fortunately those days are now over. 5.) Running Backs: Advantage Pats/Cam. This is a hard one. I think Singletary is a hell of a back and I think Moss is going to be great, but he has yet to take an NFL snap. Behind those two are Yeldon, a rugby player, and Taiwan Jones. There's a lot of potential with Singletary and Moss, but they are not there yet. The Pats have James White, the best RB in the NFL that no one talks about, Sony Michel, Damien Harris, Lamar Miller, and Rex Burkhead / Brandon Bolden who are likely competing for the same roster spot. If you add Josh Allen to the equation it might be different, but this is about RBs. 6.) Offensive Line: Advantage Pats/Cam. The Bills have closed the gap considerably and the Pats have lost their starting RT Marcus Cannon to a COVID19 opt out, but they will still return a top five O-Line in 2020. 7.) QB Passing: Advantage Pats/Cam. I think at this point Cam is the more accomplished thrower. If his shoulder is healthy and he can still throw with velocity, I think he has the edge here. Cam's game has never been about pinpoint throwing accuracy, but his career completion percentage is a respectable 59.6%. Allen's by contrast is 56.3%. It's fair to note that Allen's percentage was much improved last year at 58.8%, and there are many other metrics beyond completion percentage that comes into play evaluating a QB's throwing ability, but I think it is fair to say that the onus is on Allen to improve as a passer and not Cam. 8.) Defense: Advantage Bills/Allen. You know that Belichick is always going to field a solid defense, but I'll give the lean to the BIlls because they are bringing back more of their defensive starters this year. The Pats have lost more key players to free agency and COVID opt outs than the Bills have; Kyle Van Noy, Danny Shelton, Patrick Chung, Dont'a Hightower, and Jamie Collins. The Bills lost some players to free agency/retirement but I think they did a better job plugging those holes this off season. We have also only lost two players to COIVD opt outs, Star and Gaines. Many of our replacements on defense have played McDermott's system before. That continuity will be especially important this year with no preseason. The end result is a 4-4 tie. I think the gap between the Bills and Pats has closed considerably. These two teams in their totality are now pretty evenly matched with the BIlls moving up and the Pats falling back. I think this season series will most likely end up with a 1-1 split. If either team can sweep the series they will win the division. Anyone who thinks the Pats are going to be an easy out this year is crazy. I think both games will come down to the final possession.

I’m not going to pretend to have an informed opinion about how much Milano should receive. There are three things though that I feel pretty confident about; 1. Milano should not be the highest paid LB in the League 2. Milano is not even the best LB on the team 3. Milano is a stud and a vital part of the D and he needs to be resigned I’ll leave the rest to Beane who I trust to thread the needle again.

Dear Victory Formation, I've always enjoyed innuendos but didn't use the word much before the advent of spell check because I could never remember how to spell it correctly. As for your impassioned plea to Sherlock to abstain from "posting inappropriate sexual innuendos" on the message board, it clearly states on the TBD membership contract that innuendos, hints, allusions, and suggestions as well as phrases such as, "wink wink, nudge nudge, know what I mean?" are perfectly acceptable for this message board. However, your use of the phrase "rub one off" does clearly violate Rule II, subparagraph 3, section 8 of the TBD membership contract. Please refrain from "rubbing one off" on this board in the future. I would hate for you to get in trouble with the moderators. Your friend, Inigo

Lol! I’d love to see Gase stick around too. The problem is their new GM Joe Douglas seems to know what he’s doing. He learned from Ozzie Newsome who was a top 3 GM in football before he retired. We have a two year head start on the Jets. Let’s hope we can take advantage of it.