Bornafan66

Agree 100%. For the past decade and a half the front office of the Bills has not built this team to beat the patsies. An elite defense is what you need to beat an elite offense. That and an O-line.

I agree with your first statement, but you kind of contradict yourself with the second. This team needs solid OL players right now. Sign the FA's that you think are going to step in and make a difference from the beginning. The draft is such a crap shoot; if you get two starters from a draft your doing great. We need four at least. (OL and WR) get best skill position available in the 1st and 2nd round.

Apparently some coaches are trying to make in an LT. Why not make him a TE? The guys only 20, someone will take him in the 7th and put him on the PS.

I wouldn't mind seeing Keenum in a Bills uni.

I'd love it if it's true.

All very good points. Who the hell knows what Cleveland plans to do they'll probably take two QB's in the first. Giants, Colts, Chargers, will probably all draft QB's this year.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000920564/article/jets-have-most-cap-space-will-be-very-active-in-fa If the Jets end up with Cousins, it'll definitely shake up FA and the draft. Takes a contender for QB out of the top ten. Does anyone know if the Broncos are wanting to draft a QB? I know they need a starter and have their heart set on Cousins. If the Broncos don't get him, who do they like in the draft?

Might be bringing Nigel Bradham back. I literally yeld NOOOOOO as loud as I could. Still hate to think about it.

You're right the Cards are at 15 I stated they were at 11. Phins are at 11. I agree the Ravens and Chargers need to plan for the future. Do they trade up this year to do it? I don't think so. This FA period is going to have a larger impact on the draft and the QB position, than ever before. Next week is going to be great. There's going to be a lot of college QB's talking to their agents and saying "$chit, there goes another million!"

Oh there will be trades, who trades up to get a QB? My point is; there are only a couple of teams that need to get a QB in the first round. (depending on what happens in FA.) My other point is; we don't need to trade up in the first to get a quality QB. Do the Phins take a QB in the first? They definitely need another one, but in the first? Probably not. I don't know if anyone moves to 10 to get a QB. Jets are at 6 and the Cards are at 11. If the Phins still like Tannehill as the starter they don't take a guy in the first. Who goes up to 10 to get a QB?

Me too, hated to see the guy move on. Terrible decision makers at the time.

Just took a look at the draft order. Lets say the Broncos "win" the Cousins sweepstakes. I see maybe 4 QB's going before our pick at 21. Without any trades, and assuming we take a QB in the first round. Big question, Do the Browns take a QB in the first round or fill other holes on the roster. They obviously thought TT was worth giving up a great pick for so I'll say the Browns go a different direction in the first. Do the Colts pick a QB?? Not likely, lot of people seem to think Lucks injury is healed well enough Indy will stick with him. That leaves the Jets, the Cardinals and maybe the Dolphins taking a QB in round 1. If the Phins pass; one of the top 3 QB's in this years draft falls right into our lap with out us doing a thing. This is a definite possibility especially if one or two of these teams get a guy in FA. Another argument against trading up in the first. 1. Cleveland Browns 2. New York Giants3. Indianapolis Colts4. Cleveland Browns from Houston Texans5. Denver Broncos6. New York Jets7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers8. Chicago Bears9. San Francisco 49ers10. Oakland Raiders11. Miami Dolphins12. Cincinnati Bengals13. Washington Redskins14. Green Bay Packers15. Arizona Cardinals16. Baltimore Ravens17. Los Angeles Chargers18. Seattle Seahawks19. Dallas Cowboys20. Detroit Lions21. Buffalo Bills22. Buffalo Bills from Kansas City Chiefs

It's this year for sure. We bringing in at least two new QBs. Wheather its two FA's, a FA and a draft pick or what ever. This isn't the regime to sit on their thumbs and hope something happens. I seriously doubt they reach in the draft. We're going to be the team to watch next week and in the draft for sure.

He does show a pretty decent resume, but I doubt the current regime would tolerate the attitude problems. Personally, I can't stand the "me first" attitude. I don't care how good a player is. They just aren't going to get the team behind them. Those teams associated with those stats were mediocre at best.

There isn't one in this draft, but there have been a couple I would have traded up to get. I wanted the Bills to really go after Wentz. I also (to a lesser extent) wanted them to try for Mariota. There are few draft picks worth giving up your future for.

Regarded as the worst for Minnesota. It made the Cowboys a dynasty. Big trades can and do happen. Why wouldn't a team like Indy that has nothing to loose, make a trade that could do the same thing? I'm not saying the Bills should give up the farm like Minnesota did. I'm saying they should explore the possibility and see if they can make it happen.

8 QB's worth drafting. Only three in the first round. Pretty much supports what I've been hearing, and also supports my argument not to trade up. We can get a QB in the 2nd or 3rd.

Like your attitude about winning. Just not sure about your plan to get a QB. Just don't think this draft as the talent to justify a trade up.

He's "serviceable". And he'd be down the list. Definitely not the long term answer. I'd still take a QB in the draft. Just wouldn't trade up to get him.

Well, of the the top twenty QB's in the league last year, maybe half were first round picks. Two of those top twenty were with their second team. Three of the top twenty are on their way to another team. Six of those top twenty were day two or later picks. You thinking trading up in the draft is a sure bet to land a franchise QB is misguided.

I'd like this a lot. Whether or not the Bills get Luck there is certainly going to be more wheeling and dealing up to and during the draft. Great off season so far.

Do you remember the Herschel Walker trade. Cowboys gave up a great player they just didn't need, used that trade to build a team that beat the Bills in two super bowls. Indy has a bunch of holes to fill.

How do you know Luck isn't available?? I'd certainly make the call and find out.

This is what I'm looking at. When Foles has had the opportunity in the NFL (not college) he has done well enough to trade for.

Not saying we don't draft a guy this year. I definitely think we should, but not in the first round. The QB's in this years draft all seem to be abor out the same level depending on who you talk to. No one really stands out. I think we could get a good QB in the 2nd or even 3rd this year. If we do get a guy like Keenum, Bradford, Bridgewater, etc. and a draft pick wins the job in camp I'd be ecstatic. Agree; there are no guarantees.