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49 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:
The more I evaluate the draft the more I think pick 9 will be a D-line player, which while not a drastic need would be a need (I think the pass rush needs a shot in the arm and the D-line needs more younger players, besides Shaq and Phillips all the other D-line players are older players.) I wouldn't mind at all a RT as I think this philsophy that if you draft a RT at 9 its such a reach if they can't be swung back over to the left side is foolish. RT is a premium position in the modern NFL. A lot of the top pass rushers in the NFL rush against the right side. You need 5 top O-line players and they are all becoming harder to find. So while being able to shift over to the left side is a positive trait it isn't a make or break in my opinion.
I agree that it's going to be a defensive lineman.
Have you looked at right tackles on rosters around the NFL? It's not pretty. And of all 32 teams there are 2 right tackles who where top ten picks, Johnson and Conklin. And Johnson is really a left tackle playing right. Neither are all pros this year. And there a whole mess of linemen who where reached on and suck. Luke Joeckel, Jonathan Cooper, Warmack etc etc etc. it's just bad drafting. Quentin Nelson elite player. Lane Johnson elite athlete in a crap draft. You simply can't draft these guys if they aren't elite. There's no draft value and you will be passing on elite talents at more important positions.
Left tackles are simply more important becuase they protect the blindside. It's a simple concept, but that's really it.
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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:
Beane seemed to be really close with Proehl. Interesting though we cut his son.
I thînk the fact that he was even drafted was a favor from McBeane to Ricky Proehl, kind like how Elway drafted Chad Kelly.
3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:Welp
I guess the good news is that they only crossed over one year in Carolina with McBEANE.
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1 hour ago, tbarg12 said:
I would like to see them get Raheed Morris from Atlanta but doubt Quinn gives him up after (almost) considering him for DC, worked with Julio Jones, Sanu, and had a hand in Ridley's rookie season.
Found this article, lengthy read but has some good insight.
https://theundefeated.com/features/why-is-the-atlanta-falcons-raheem-morris-coaching-wide-receivers/
Raheem Morris and Dan Quinn are really tight. They go back to their days when Morris was playing at Hofstra and Dan Quinn was coaching there. Morris spend some time a sa graduate assistant there too. My buddy played at Hofstra during that time and he's tight with Quinn, Morris and Kyle Flood. They are all Hofstra guys.
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I've sat in on clinics with Noel Mazzone a number of times. He is a huge zone blocking guy and an RPO guy. Not sure that fits with Daboll, but I just wanted to lend what little knowledge I had on the subject. You can find a lot of his presentations online as he teaches an N-Zone concept. If you want to learn more about football and RPOs check them out. He's worked with Daboll on Mangini's staff so who knows.
I like Ricky Proehl, and I wonder if McDermott can lure him back. Return the favor for drafting his son?
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23 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:
I can't imagine Teller not being able to play on the right side. Guards are much more interchangeable from left to right and right to left in general than tackles.
Ok some offensive line stuff I have learned over the years, coaching for 12 years in high school and going to many clinics.
For some, right guard is considered more difficult to play because offensive lines usually slide their protection to the left. Meaning the center, guard and left tackle work in tandem to pick up blitzes. It makes sense to slide your protection to the side of the team's best pass rushers, which is usually the right end or rolb to attack the blind side of the quarterback. The running back usually goes opposite the slide, or tight end usually lines up on the other side, giving the right tackle some help. That often leaves the right guard in a one on one situation. Marshall Yanda/Zach Martin are the prototypes. With all of the crazy exotic blitzes these days, not all of this is important, but it is in line with the simple concept that teams need to protect the blind side of the quarterback.
Also, because teams mostly use their tight ends on the right, (obviously this changes but many teams are very right handed) your defensive three technique winds up on that side a lot, giving him a one on one. It's how guys like Geno Atkins are so dominate.
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10 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:
If they draft a tackle in the first round they are expecting that guy to start at LT next year. I have very little doubt of that.
Conklin is in the Lane Johnson category for me. He is a guy who has started at RT because his team already had a very good left tackle. But I am pretty sure he could play left tackle in the National Football League. The Titans picking Conklin I had no issue with them trading up from I think 16 to 8 or 9 to pick him when Tunsil and Decker were still on the board as well was a strange move in my book.
I think Conklin is a bit overrated and I think the trade up did not make sense. However, it really was not a very good draft. I probably would have waited and took he or Decker..whoever was left. Conklin is a very good player, but I think rushers with some speed like Jerry Hughes would give him a lot of problems if he were playing left tackle. He'd probably be okay because of his excessively long arms. (I feel like we debated Conklin a little while back Gunner.) I do think Conklin can work his way up to the Lane Johnson category.
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On the center idea, they highest drafted center over the last 20 years or so was Mike Pouncey at #15. It just is not done. The highest paid center in the league is Ryan Jensen, who was a tackle drafted in the sixth round who converted to center.
Free agents we all want
Paradis - 6th round
Morse - 2nd round
Easton - UDFA
Darryl Williams - 4th round
According to PFF, who I don't love but a lot of people do...Jason Kelce is their highest rated center. Drafted in the 6th round. Their highest rated RT is Mitchell Schwartz, who was drafted in round 2.
Take a look at their top 25 offensive lineman of 2018. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-top-25-offensive-linemen-of-the-2018-nfl-season
Just 4 of them are top ten picks, Lane Johnson being the only RT on the list drafted in the top ten. The value just isn't there.
If a guy is deemed a right tackle it means that there is some flaw in his game that keeps him from being a left tackle. That means he's going to be a flawed player right off the bat.
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4 hours ago, Buffalo30 said:
Why? Guards and centers go in the draft in the first round all the time. Why can’t a good right tackle? An improvement to the offensive line is worth a 1st round pick no matter what the position is IMO. A solid starting right tackle in the first round would be a million times better than the revolving door that is Mills.
They need to be elite to be picked in the top ten imo. Trade down? Sure. Otherwise it's a wasted pick with little upside. If they aren't in the Quentin Nelson, class you don't do it. I believe you should't do it for left tackles either...unless they are elite. They elite talent in the class are defensive tackles, Allen and Bosa, Devin White.
The exception to this is when the Titans took Jack Conklin. It was a sort of weak draft after the top five so they drafted for need. But the passed on Leonard Floyd, Tunsil, Taylor Decker to do so. If Williams or Taylor are teh BPA at 9, fine take them. I count 12 defensive prospects better than those guys.
Seriously everyone, please understand that Jonah Williams and Taylor and Little are nowhere near the elite talent that Quentin Nelson is. Not even close.
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17 minutes ago, aristocrat said:
he didn't really give a shopping list outside of demarcus lawrence. it was so vague
I think Lawrence definitely gets the franchise tag and I am assuming Clowney does as well. But I think Trey Flowers from New England maybe hits the market. I think they may use the tag on Gostkowski.
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In the 2017 draft I really liked Trubisky and I was intrigued by Mahomes. I did not like Watson at all. But deep down I really wanted to wait for 2018 and get Josh Allen. He seemed like the prototype quarterback the Bills had been looking for, for a very long time. Big, huge arm, big hands etc etc etc.
As we approached the draft in 2018 I didn't think we would get a shot at Allen. So I started to study Rosen a lot and started to feel very strongly that he was our guy. I did not like Mayfield or Jackson. I liked Allen, Rosen, Darnold. On draft night I was somewhat disappointed for about 2 seconds, because I really convinced myself that we were going to draft Rosen. I realized that I should have stuck with my gut all along and stayed loyal to the idea of Josh Allen. I flip flopped a bit, but I really was okay with Darnold, Allen, or Rosen.
I've been very happy watching him play. The last time I was excited about a Bills quarterback was Drew Bledsoe, and Jim before that obviously. Allen is the real deal. He's humble, hard working, smart, and has ridiculous athletic upside as a passer and runner. There is a ton of work to be done, but I truly believe we have found our guy for the long haul. He's perfect for Buffalo.
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31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Wood points at the Chicago Bears as a model for WR additions:
" Last offseason, the Bears didn’t bring in superstars for second-year quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. They signed receivers Taylor Gabriel and Allen Robinson and tight end Trey Burton. They finished second, third and fourth in receiving for a team that went 12-4 and won the NFC North. "He says Clay is a good TE when healthy and impressed him (Wood) by his willingness to block and do the dirty work.
The Bills finished the season with 21 or 22 sets on most run plays, and Clay served his time in the trenches. It's under-appreciated how that takes a toll on a guy I think. Wood says " He has struggled to stay healthy, and I don’t know where his body is at 30 years old next month. 24-year-old Jason Croom, who’s also more of a receiver-type, needs to develop this offseason." He doesn't mention Logan Thomas at all.
On OL, Wood says: "My thoughts on the offensive line aren’t completely formulated because of the decision to move on from assistant coach Juan Castillo. (....) when you move on to a new offensive line coach, you can expect he’ll bring with him players he’s familiar with and likes. When Juan came to the Bills, he brought Vlad Ducasse with him. When Aaron Kromer was here, he brought Ryan Groy and Jordan Mills with him. When the Bills got rid of Joe D’Alessandris and he went to the Chargers, he took Doug Legursky, Chad Rinehart and Chris Hairston. The process is different than it is for other positions because O-line coaches have specific techniques they prefer to teach. Once they’ve trained a veteran who has played under them, they can have those former players show the other guys what they’re trying to do."
He implies the Bills can't depend entirely on the draft: " You’d love to say, “Let’s use some early picks and shore up that O-line with college kids.” But the prospects don’t always leave college with much polish because the offenses down there can be so much different than anything they’ll see in the NFL. "
Fundamentally, Wood seems to be saying that the OL coach has heavy input into the selection of players and should, so that he gets guys that will work with his preferred techniques, and that the OL coach selection will drive what the Bills do as far as OL additions. (If anyone else interprets that differently, please challenge).
He also points out the impact adding a "supreme pass rusher" can have and specifically names Demarcus Lawrence of the Cowboys. He intriguingly says:
" Entering the third season under McDermott and Beane, the culture probably is good enough — even with Kyle moving on — that if you wanted to roll the dice on a superstar with issues, the Bills might have the foundation in place to do that. "
I was thinking about the Chicago model on my way in to work. I think it is a great point.
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I will keep beating the Mitch Morse drum, but he's a better player than Paradis. I know PFF grades Paradis higher, but Paradis is a zone center. Smallish, athletic, Gary Kubiak type center, Tom Nalen type. He is not scheme versatile. Morse can fit into any scheme, blocks with power and is really good pass blocking. He's had some injuries, but he is the better player and fit. If we wind up bringing in zone type scheme next year, then Paradis makes sense, but Morse is the guy you really want. He's a great fit for Buffalo. Don't be blinded by PFF grades, look at the whole picture. Morse has been huge for Mahomes and would be great for Josh. Morse has injury concerns, but he is the better player.
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1 hour ago, ALF said:
If Jawaan Taylor, Greg Little or Jonah Williams are there at 9 , I would draft , RT is a need
Beane says he will not draft for need. I believe him. If he reaches on any of those guys, he's full of it. When teams draft for need that's how guys like JJ Watt and Aaron Donald fall. I hope the teams in front us make that type of mistake.
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His ceiling is so much higher than Williams, but he's a right tackle imo. I am not drafting either of those guys in the top ten.
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These guys should just stay home, stay single, and swim in their money like Scrooge McDuck. Maybe make love to a microwaved bagel once in a while.
Its seems these issues are so easily avoidable, but some of these dudes just don't know how to avoid them.
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I think there's something in my eye
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Tasker needs to get in. Also getting annoyed at how easy it is for recievers to get in all of a sudden. Andre had to wait, Art Monk. It's dumb that it is so easy all of a sudden.
Edgar Martinez needs to get in too.
But we probably don't need to worry too much about the HOF for a while.
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30 minutes ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:
I think Drew Lock could be the QB draft crush this year. Haskins will likely go top 15. Maybe top 10.
I think Lock will dominate the combine for sure. Haskins probably does to. I think the Giants take one for sure. Jaguars should sign Teddy Bridgewater.
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I appreciate the effort. I love what you did with free agency there. Morse, Conley, Humphries, Williams should be big time pursuits of ours. If we landed Humphries, I'd offer Zay Jones to the Chargers for Forrest Lamp. I don't love the draft, but I'm okay with a receiver if there is a trade down. But I still think we go defensive tackle round 1. Nice job.
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On 12/27/2018 at 5:38 PM, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...anybody think McBeane would pull this trigger in the top 10 or does he trade down and look for an extra 2nd, targeting someone else?.....the "WR in the 1st ghost of Whaley past" is lurking for some to pounce on if McBeane follows suit......despite a new era..................
He isn't drafting a receiver in the top ten. He will not draft for need and reach.
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21 minutes ago, ctk232 said:
Well that's certainly good to know, and appreciate the update. I wonder how much of a discount that will be if the Rams are looking to accommodate Goff, Gurley, Donald, and a few other OL and Defensive guys long term...
Im assuming they have to let Suh walk. Maybe Ethan Westbrooks. But besides Saffold I think their main priority would be LaMarcus Joyner. They have about 30 something million in cap space next year. They could cut/trade Barron, Talib, Brockers, Peters, and Robey-Coleman take on like 5 million in dead money and gain over 40 million in cap space. Not saying they should or would, but I could see them moving 1 or two of those guys to keep Saffold and Joyner if they needed to.
I would be all over Brockers if I was the Bills.
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10 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said:
I see the Bills making the following moves.
Do not resign, Miller, Groy or Ducasse.
Resign Mills
In FA
Try and sign Matt Paradies, Ramon Foster and Darryl Williams
1st Round:
Draft Jawaan Taylor the OT from Florida with the 9th pick
New 2019 Offensive Line:
LT - Dion Dawkins
LG - Wyatt Teller
C - Matt Paradies
RG - Ramon Foster
RT - Jawaan Taylor
Depth
C - Jeff Bodine
Swing Tackle - Jordan Mills
G - Ike Botteger or G from draft
I think this line will be able to run block and provide JA time to throw
PS - Please draft TJ Hockenson as the inline TE
What are your thoughts?
I actually like the upside of Taylor way more than the upside of Jonah Williams. Call me crazy. But I do think Taylor is really the prototype right tackle. I think there is going to be too much defensive talent on the board at 9 to draft Williams or Taylor.
I think Paradis goes to a team like the Jets, though it really depends on who they hire. But he probably stays in Denver. I think Mitch Morse is the better fit, but Paradis would be cool.
Foster is a good player but 32. I feel strongly that they are going to target guys in that 26-27 range coming off their rookie contract. Quinton Spain, Mark Glowinski, Daryl Williams, guys like that, so that you can put together a line that can gel and have sustained success for multiple seasons.
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2 hours ago, ctk232 said:
I would hope Saffold falls into the same boat as Morse with upcoming contracts in LA, it's likely they look to either restructure an offer for him if they want to keep him, or cut ties with what's coming up in the next year or two. Either way, with a good amount of teams looking to strengthen their OL after this year, and some also for their newly found rookie QB (i.e. Zona, Jets, even Houston, Tennessee, and Carolina) we will likely end up paying more for any OL guys we bring in, than they will ultimately be worth. As FA goes.
Saffold wants to stay in LA and said he would give a home count discount to do so. He was considered a bust and kept working and has finally found his grove. He isn't leaving there unless they don't want him back imo.
51 minutes ago, Billzgobowlin said:I could see Kalil come in if he is still playing football next year and I think he would stabilize the line, also draft a LT or RT and keep Dawkins starting. I'm kind of interested in seeing what Teller, Boettinger and Conor McDermott will do if given the opportunity. I think Mills, Groy and Miller are gone and if anyone on here has any doubts Ducasse has been gone since week 9.
The problem with the Khalil idea is he stabilizes the line for what? One season? If he can even stay healthy. I think we need a long term starter there.
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1 hour ago, DrDare said:
I always thought it should be the backup QB in order to add the possibility of a better fake kick --> throw
I think teams have gotten away from fake field goals. Your wing backs and tight ends are usually massive, slow lineman. Pretty sure Harrison Phillips was one on our field goal unit. Most teams would rather just leave their offense, with all their multi million $ skill players on there to go for it on forurth down and such.
Ja’Waan Taylor OT Florida
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Yeah my bad, that comment wasn't meant for you, it just was a general comment for th board. I am vehemently against drafting guards and right tackles in the top ten and people on the board keep using Nelson as a reason why you should, but they are ignoring the fact that Nelson is an amazing elite can't miss prospect. So apologies if it felt like I was being snarky towards you.