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6 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

Do people want to continue?  I would be down but need others to participate.  Any interest from other gms?

 

I'm down

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10 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

Interior lineman is their position of need and he's BPA.  They have some guys with versatility and there wasn't a DT or DB that made a lot of sense for them

 

If I'm the Chargers I go Okung-Feeney-Bradbury-Pouncey-Lamp. I'd make Bradbury my center and move Pouncey to guard where he would be very good. I'd try Lamp at RT as he was a former LT who would probably be fine on the right side. Pouncey is only around for 1 more year. 

[Rosen, Kyler, Lock, Haskins, Daniel Jones-where do they end up?]

I think Murray to the Cards

I like the Haskins to the Skins fit. 

I think Jones winds up with the Giants

Lock I think is a Charger

Bengals draft someone like Ryan Finley

Broncos wait till next year

Dolphins draft Will Grier

Packers trade for Rosen

 

[Would you want Ziggy Ansah if he hits the open market?]

38 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

I agree that 14 mill is too high for Ansah. I was thinking 3 yr 27 mill with 15 mill guaranteed if he is given a clean bill of health.

 

I think that is definitely a better deal. I just don't think he is better than Trent Murphy, and he is older. I'd go 1 year 5 million. 

[Would you want Ziggy Ansah if he hits the open market?]

21 minutes ago, wppete said:

 

This trade makes a ton of sense to me. 1st round swaps, next year's 2nd and a 4th would equal what the Chiefs sent to Seattle for Clark. Front offices are close as well. This is a no brainer for me. They aren't going to be able to keep him long term. 

 

I'd rather trade draft assets and sign Clowney for 20 million per than sign Ansah for 14 million. The guy is very overrated, older (no one knows his actual age), and always hurt. Clowney is very young, has huge upside, has been productive, and will excel in this defense. 

[Who’s the ONE guy that you want in this draft?]

Love Risner, Oliver, Ferguson and my draft crush Blake Cashman. Sorry...I know you said one

[Select 2 players that will be drafted by Buffalo]

Jaylon Ferguson 

Blake Cashman

[Red Star Players]

Blake Cashman - LB (He's a bigger Matt Milano imo who can play inside or outside in a 4-3)

Max Scharping - OT (He has 4th round tackle David Bakhtiari written all over him. Great size and good length with a nasty streak)

Jaylon Ferguson - DE (Probably a second rounder, I think he might wind up the best edge player in the draft down the line)

David Sills - (Smart player, former quarterback, good size and speed...Patriots esque receiver)

[Dwayne Haskins’ father is a strange dude]

Parents today are so damn twisted. I see this kind of thing every day when trying to find out why a kid did not do his homework. This guy is nuts and so are a lot of other parents right now. 

[Non-Bills related: If the Cards take Murray #1. Why I think he will fail in the NFL...]

I never liked small quarterbacks. I think he needs to have special mobility within the pocket to find passing windows to be effective. This is something that both Drew Brees and Russell Wilson excel at. I don't see it with Murray. I don't see it with Mayfield either, who I'm not completely sold on. Anyway, Murray seems like a huge weirdo and not a leader of men. Plus he is small and played in a gimmicky offense against some crap defenses. I do think he will click with Christian Kirk, but I don't see long term success. And I think he is going to get killed out there. That way that Tyrod would get hurt on routine hits that every other quarterback takes with no issue...that's what I see for Murray. That said, I think he is a good match for Kingsbury, but I don't think he's a better prospect than Josh Rosen. I think Haskins and Lock have better careers than Murray. 

[Trace McSorley, Penn St - late round pick/position change?]

I actually love McSorely. Honestly, I'd spend a seventh on him and try to make him a safety. He's smart and played a lot of DB in high school. It would be a project, but the dude is a football guy. If you look at his combine testing numbers, they are all on par with Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer, size, 40, length etc etc. I'd love to have him on our team and I think a safety conversion makes a lot of sense. 

[Adolphus Washington is available [edit: Signed with Dolphins]]

No heart and soft

[OL Jonah Williams takes it to another level.]

Williams lost his argument when he mentioned Riley Reiff, who blows. 

[Seattle trades Frank Clark to Chiefs for 2019 1st and 2020 2nd]

I actually think, if this is the price for Clowney, it's reasonable. A swap of first rounders and a 2020 second rounder isn't crazy. 

 

I know the draft chart isn't the be all end all. But 9 is worth 1350 and 23 is worth 760. The difference is 590. The number 29 pick is worth 640. Buffalo would be 50 points shy here which is the value of a late fourth rounder, and we have two of those. You could also likely work Jerry Hughes into the trade if you really wanted to and recoup some value in draft picks. 

 

I would offer the Texans a swap of ones, a 2020 second rounder, and a 2019 4th. It's a fair deal for both teams and would be the same value that Seattle got for Clark. We would still have nine picks is year. It's a no brainer to me. 

 

 

[OL Jonah Williams takes it to another level.]

I still don't understand why Dillard is a pure left tackle with long arms when his arms and wingspan are smaller than Jonah Williams. I must be missing something here, but why is arm length an issue for one and not the other. Dillard is such a trap. 

 

12 hours ago, FeelingOnYouboty said:

Chances of him being there at #9 are slim. Now if Carolina trades up with Detroit we're screwed out of Andre Dillard.

 

If Carolina screws us out of Dillard it will be a blessing for us and for Cam Jordan, Vic Beasley and the other pass rushers in NFC South. 

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9 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

I think Dillard will end up being the best pure LT in the draft. Not a beast in RB but a solid PB guy in a pass happy league.

 

I think he's in for a Jonathan Martin type career, without all the scandal. He's soft and passive. NFL rushers are going to kick his butt imo. A lot of his games involve him standing around watching the play. I think that whoever drafts him will be very dissapointed and I hope and pray it isn't the Bills. 

[Players With The Same Name On The Same Team]

There is a guy named Hitner in the draft. So there that's something

[Seattle trades Frank Clark to Chiefs for 2019 1st and 2020 2nd]

It's also a scheme fit. With KC going full time to a 4-3, I don't think Ford would hold up as an every down base defensive end. I wonder if they will still be able to keep Chris Jones and Tyreek Hill though. 

[Seattle trades Frank Clark to Chiefs for 2019 1st and 2020 2nd]

Clark is so much better than Ford. More production in less time. Great against the run as well and younger. 

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Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I was going to offer pick 253, but you beat me.

 

I just think he's going to suck. Like he would be off my board if I had one. 

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4 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

My irrational fear is that I keep flashing back to Maxx Williams when he came out and how many people seemed to love him.  I am hoping that if we draft Hock in the 1st round, he is the real deal because I have always wanted the Bills to have a legitimate #1 TE.

 

The only thing that will make me blow a gasket is Andre Dillard. I will be very upset. 

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52 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

Hock is not a sexy pick anymore but a good value at 15. Need best DE/DL available with next pick. IF he becomes a stud TE like Kelce/Gronk/Ertz we would love this pick for many years.

 

I really like Daniel Jeremiah's stuff and thoughts and I keep coming back to him having Hockenson as like the 4th or 5th best player in this draft. I think, if he went back to Iowa, he would definitely be a top ten player next year. I think he's a top ten player this year. If he turns out to be one of those guys, it will definitely be the sexiest of picks. 

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6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Why are people still picking Jawaan Taylor...hes NOT available, was taken at 7 by jags haha.  

 

I have a hard time seeing Bills take a corner with the 15th overall pick.  We are pretty deep at corner right now and there are some other studs on the board

 

Outside of Hockenson, I don't think there are any studs left here. Maybe Fant or Ferrell. Dillard is going to be terrible imo. I think Murphy, Baker, Greedy, and Rock Ya Sin may all go in that 15-30 range so we aren't that far from value there. My board at this point would be Hock, Murphy, Ferrel. And I don't have a board. Just imaginary in my mind lol. 

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I love this excercise because the moral of the story here is that you have to be careful how far you trade down if you do decide to trade down. There are something like 15-18 really good first rounders here and then a who,e bunch of guys who could go from anywhere between 18 and 50. 

 

I do think the Bills would consider a corner here as well. 

[Chase Winovich - DE...2nd Round]

I think he will really struggle as a 4-3 end. His arms are short and he just isn't stout enough imo. I think he could be serviceable in a 3-4 where he might get moved around a bit. Interesting player with nice hair, but I don't see a fit here. Guys like Sweat, Ferguson...those are McDermott ends.