
Jrb1979
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@SoTier why the eye roll? It's true, there is a big part of the fanbase that doesn't want to mortgage the future. I'm not saying Beane won't make moves, but he's been reluctant to give up multiple draft picks to make a move.
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1 minute ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:
Yeah, I get it. A lot of the names that get fans excited usually don’t become available. Beaner really needs a blue chip hit …
Maybe it's time the used picks to trade up and get one of the top ones in the draft
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Just now, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:
So basically the same thing that has failed repeatedly … got it 🤔
To be fair, that's how this regime runs it and I don't see it changing. A lot of the fanbase likes this as they know each season they have a chance.
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1 minute ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
If the rumor is we want Smith...we will not be signing Smith.
Probably none of the other high end guys either. My guess is they continue to build through the draft and maybe sign some mid tier guys to fill out the roster.
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5 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
well that strategy can and more times than not backfire. Von Miller and Diggs backfired. Diggs cost a lot of money in dead cap in 24. He was such a malcontent they shipped him off to a playoff team. That money he cost them could have paid for two players not to mention they had to replace him.
Don't get me started on Von Miller.
Metcalf is a fun offseason discussion though.
Slayton is a good fit for the bills, add a wr in the draft and all of a sudden its a pretty good group of guys and lots of talented options for Allen.
I imagine they just draft a wr with a day 3 pick and resign hollins.
We shall see very soon what they think of the wr room.
Yes it can backfire, but that shouldn't stop them from trying at again.
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2 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
Money can always be manipulated to make it work. Who cares about 3 or more years down the road.? I would rather they take a chance to win now, than trying to be competitive every season.
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42 minutes ago, Jimmy Harris 69 said:
This is a player Beane should have drafted and and didn’t. It makes no sense to give up the sun and the moon to acquire him, then gut your team to pay $100M to keep him. The Bills led the NFL in scoring, but their defense disappeared during most of the KC game. We need defense. $100M receivers don’t get you to the Super Bowl.
They lead the league in scoring last season. I don't see a repeat happening as they mostly played non playoff teams and had a higher than average turnover differential.
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Just now, BarleyNY said:
It is not about mortgaging the future. The Eagles aren’t doing that. It’s about how much the owner is willing to spend.
Pegula needs to open the pocket books.
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Just now, The Jokeman said:
Eagles had a bunch of guys on D under their rookie contracts many of which are free agents this season.
IMO the Bills should strive to do the same. Sure they will take a step back for a few seasons but in the end it was worth it for a Super Bowl
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3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:
I'm guessing they'd want a 3rd. I like him but he comes off like a diva WR toss in he only has one year left on his contract and not sure we could re-sign him.
Too bad there's this thing called the salary cap.
Somehow the Eagles made it work. Restructuring contracts and add void years like they did. Other teams make it work. For some reason this team refuses to mortgage the future.
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9 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:
I don't get this entire discussion considering the 2024 Buffalo Bills finished the season with a franchise record of most points scored, #2 in points scored for the league and #10 in yards. The offense wasn't a problem as they scored 29 points on the #4 defense in points allowed, and they held their own against that KC defense, Ravens defense, Broncos defense.
If anything, we all watched as opposing QB's had all day to throw the ball game after game like that loss to the Rams 44-42 or the win over the Lions in DETROIT 48-42.
A better pass rush this past season, and the Buffalo Bills are most likely playing in the Super Bowl despite the supposed lack of wide receivers in the WR room. Then when you consider Buffalo allowed their two best WRs in Stephon Diggs and Gabe Davis leave...many had projected Buffalo to have a rebuilding season. Not all the way to the AFC Championship game.
The only WR returning from the 2023 season was Kahlil Shakir while all the rest were new to the team. I would think that as they all become more acclimated to the offense they will all get even better for 2025. Plus the draft and free agency. So why spend so many resources on a WR when an DT, an edge rusher are more desperately needed? Just my 2 cents.
While this season the offense was one of the best. I'm not sold on them repeating those numbers. They played a lot of non playoff teams this past year and they also got a lot of help in turnover department.
IMO spend picks to get DK, add a top FA for the D Line and CB. Mortgage the future and try to win this season.
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6 minutes ago, SoTier said:
The problem is that I don't think signing three top tier vets is really possible because those two of those positions, WR and DL, are among the highest priced. Top CBs are another pricey group with safeties being lower but still more than some other positions. Other than pass rusher, I think that what positions the Bills target in FA will depend upon how they feel about Cooper and Samuel and their ability to return to form after injuries derailed their 2024 seasons, and how they feel about Bishop's ability to play SS.
I agree if the plan is keep the cap workable for the future seasons. The way so do it is restructure guys and add void years like the Eagles did. If that means a few seasons from now the Bills are back to a mid tier team having to win out of make the playoffs so be it.
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18 minutes ago, SoTier said:
I don't disagree with "going all in and giving away the future". I disagree with you on how the Bills can best accomplish that. We've butted heads on this before.
You think that loading up on the offensive side, especially at WR, is how the Bills win. For somebody in the "the Bills will continue to do the same old thing" camp, you seem to forget that the Bills already tried that. They traded for a big name WR, and they put up with his antics when he felt he was being "misused". How well did that work?
I think that improving the defense, specifically the defensive line and the defensive backfield, is a much better way to go, and I'm not opposed to mortgaging the future to bring in the right players, especially Miles Garrett. The only problem with Garrett is that the Bills can't force Cleveland to trade him, especially before the draft. If they decide to trade after June 1, I'm still all in, even if it were to cost 3 first picks. If they can't get Garrett, they should consider one of the other veteran DLers available through trade or FA. The Bills also need to acquire a veteran safety through FA, and add another CB, either through FA or the draft or both.
I never said the defense needs help cause they definitely do. My ideal off season is trade of DK Metcalfe, sign on of the top DL in FA, sign one of the top CB and safety's in FA. Structure their contacts with to push the cap hit down the road. Try to win a Super Bowl this season.
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2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:
By the way, Greg Tompsett points out that these 4 years are added as new money onto the last year of his rookie deal, when he's slated to make $3.3m due to proven performance escalators.
5 year $63.5m deal locks him up through age 30.
Even better!
@BullBuchanan and @Jrb1979... stop your whining!
I have no problem with the deal at all. It is a very good deal. My point was more that while he is a very good player, he's not as great as some make him out to be.
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3 minutes ago, SoTier said:
Cry me a river. I've been a Bills fan for likely longer than you've been alive unless you're eligible for Social Security, and the team has only had 3 periods of excellence in all that time: 1964-1966, 1988-1999, and 2019-2024.
Do you know what "zero for the seventies" means? Between 1970 and 1979, the Bills didn't win a single game against the Miami Dolphins. Not one. None. Zilch. When Chuck Knox's 1980 squad beat the Fish in September, 1980, the fans tore down the goal posts. It was the biggest win since the Bills won the 1965 AFC Championship.
I was a season ticket holder during the Drought Era, 17 seasons with the playoffs mostly being pipe dreams. The Bills had 2 9-win and 3 8-win seasons during stretch. Most of the rest of the time, the season was over before the end of October ...
So, buttercup, suck it up and deal with the reality that no team is guaranteed anything, especially winning a Super Bowl.
Now I'm understanding why so many disagree with going all in and giving away the future. While a Super Bowl would be nice, having a chance to win each season is better.
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28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
They must do something right.
Brandon Beane said culture fit means a lot to them. They aren’t going to change.
That IMO is going to be why they may win 1 Super Bowl if everything goes right but most likely won't win one. You need elite talent on both sides of the ball to win a Super Bowl. A lot of those elite playmakers come with egos. Give me an AJ Brown who will pout when no getting the ball but will make big plays over a Shakir any day.
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2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Top 3????
Yes. Absolutely. Probably top 2 on the Chiefs... maybe the best for that team
Your honestly telling me you would take any of Jahon Dotson, JuJu Smith Schuster, Skyy Moore, Justin Watson, 2024 DeAndre Hopkins, Xavier Worthy over Khalil Shakir?
There's no point in having a conversation about this if you really would swap Shakir with any of those guys right now.
And like I said, I think he’s also a better Wide Receiver than Hollywood Brown.
I can get there with the chiefs.
My point is yes Shakir is a really good WR, I don't think he is game changer like AJ Brown, Chase or Marvin Harrison Jr is.
That IMO is why the Bills struggle in the playoffs at times. It goes for both sides of the ball. They are a team full of good to great players but don't have those game breakers that other teams have.
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11 hours ago, SCBills said:
I don’t think anyone wants to give a WR 30M.. closest I’ve seen is a trade for DK Metcalf, and that just makes sense in the same way signing Henry for Lamar did. If you can do it.. do it.
We do definitely need speed/separation on the outside. Teams literally played us one high safety with zero worries about anyone beating them over the top. This affected not only Shakir, but also our TE’s as the middle of the field was more clogged up.
Whether that a RD1 or RD2 draft pick or a Slayton/Brown level FA, the Bills absolutely do need to add to the group of Shakir, Coleman and Samuel.. even if Hollins comes back.
Why is everyone so against paying top dollar for an actual number 1 guy?
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5 minutes ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:
The fubo tv law suit thing got settled, they are now included in that bundle that was in the process of happening
That's good to know. If you look at their bundles for FuboTV and you want all the sports it's $80 a month.
3 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:Will or Rumor?
It's a rumor that it will only be on Streaming. What is happening is all games can be streamed as well as be on network TV
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4 minutes ago, ddaryl said:
yeah we all saw it coming. We even have people posting here suggesting that all the streaming services get bundled together, ala cable TVThat was close to happening with a couple of them for just sports but FuboTV fought back against it. I can see the next contract being with Netflix, ,ESPN+, Prime and Peacock. With no network TV having it. It will cost close to $100 a month the watch the NFL.
To be fair the NFL is the last major league to be mostly on free over the air TV. NHL, MLB and NBA are rarely on free TV.
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2 minutes ago, ddaryl said:
But it is determined by how many streaming services a fan must have to watch all the games for their team. Each streaming service will of course have to bid on the rights as well, which has been escalating exponetially over the last couple of decades.
So we shall see...So basically cable TV but now with a shiny new wrapper. We have come full circle
We shall see. If you want to blame anyone for what's happening it's us. As soon as we started cutting cable, the companies were going to find a way to get that money.
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38 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I think it depends how greedy the NFL becomes. They have a great thing going, so naturally the temptation is to find and squeeze every nickel out of it.
It's not necessarily about greed. With cable dying as more people cut the cord, network TV is not getting the money from cable like they they did in the past. Add in the younger audience is more inclined to tune into a game on streaming versus over the air.
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3 minutes ago, Gregg said:
Exactly. CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN pay billions to have the rights to show these games. The NFL/networks aren't walking away from that $$$$ as it is extremely profitable for both sides.
They will walk away after this contract. These networks don't have the money like they used to. With what Netflix and Prime have done, the move is to put the games all on streaming only. There is more money in streaming than on network TV.
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I'm not just talking trading picks. I'm also talking about spending big in FA as well. Use void years and restructures and go after multiple top tier guys.
I'm of the opinion next season is next season and worry about then. I'm not a fan of being competitive every season and hope to catch lightening in a bottle.
I think with how close they were why not mortgage the future with picks or cap space and give the team the playmakers it needs.