HomeskillitMoorman
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3 hours ago, John from Riverside said:
I think we are gonna pick up some wins when Josh gets back......
We may not end up picking in the top 5 at all
If I remember right, your excuse for this regime is that they're trying to lose. Would they then be failing if we pick up some wins in the 2nd half?
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So the handling of the QB position for this year would have been fine if he had signed Derek Anderson at the beginning of the year? Anderson stinks. Hire him or someone else as a coach if you want Allen to have a mentor, why waste a spot on a guy who can't play?
There should have been either another young QB or a guy they thought could be a long-term backup that could basically audition for the role this year. Having Derek Anderson start games is just throwing them away. They should be using these games during the rebuild so much more wisely.
And that's not even touching on the fact that both of them felt and still feel that Peterman is a legit NFL starter/QB2 tweener.
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I'm not talking about the record, I've never cared about that for this season. But I think that's what some people think rebuilding is, and that's all it is. There's a development process within rebuilding that the regime should be judged on as they go, they're not successfully rebuilding because we stink. What I wanted to see was organizational progress, and the #1 priority there is the development of the guy they used a lot of assets and draft capital to get...yet we're basically going to lose an entire year of legitimate development for him.
How it can be excused that after 2 offseasons with this regime, knowing the franchise QB they picked would be the difference between it being a success or a failure, that we have absolutely no protection or weapons for him? I don't know that he's going to be good even with that, I don't know if he has the accuracy to be a top level QB, but we have to find out as soon as possible.
And what faith, not in the McDermott/Peterman way, are we supposed to have that this regime can identify talent on the o-line when after 2 offseasons we have one passable starter? Are we supposed to be confident that they can find 4 before next season? Let alone skill players at almost every single offensive position.
The progression during the rebuild is what needs to be looked at, and I think it's alarming how many holes we have after 2 offseasons. A successful rebuild in today's NFL should really happen in 3 years and we're not even close to that. The organizational planning is also very concerning, most notably with obviously how the QB situation was so badly handled this year. When you watch these games from Peterman and Anderson...this is the brainpower and evaluation abilities of Beane and McDermott at work.
I don't care about being 2-6 or whatever we end up with. But to basically lose an entire precious year of development on the offensive side of the ball doesn't instill much faith in Beane and McDermott's ability to rebuild.
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3 hours ago, CLTbills said:
I don't really think he's "picking" Peterman in this case. Everybody else is hurt.
I'm not going to excuse him for picking him last year over Tyrod, or week 1 over Josh and AJ.
But in this case, who else was he supposed to pick?Who's fault is that? This regime made him a top 2 QB for the organization coming into the year, and not only that, decided he was good enough to be so reliable that he could start and then later on be the primary back up for Allen...fully knowing that the pickings would be incredibly slim on getting anyone half-decent during the season.
People are acting like this situation was forced upon this regime. It wasn't. It's happened because of Beane and McDermott's incredible level of failure with the most important position in sports.
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Even though it would take away from the fun at the "Cuse...bring in Dino!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbC693EX4cM
The guy's done an incredible job and knows offense. Took a HORRIFIC Cuse program and has them ranked in his 3rd year. And came super close to upsetting Clemson for a 2nd year in a row.
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14 hours ago, Rico said:
"Bring me back, and this time let me hire Hue Jackson!"
Ugh that guy. I gotta say though, I love that jacket. I'm already looking for it online.
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1 minute ago, MDH said:
I don't mind a rebuild. What I mind is it taking two full seasons to rip out the foundation before the rebuild can actually begin. This is some ridiculous 4 year plan and in the modern NFL it isn't necessary. Teams can be rebuilt in 2 years and in some cases, the very next year.
There was no need to jettison players the way they have been. You don't have to take two years to "clear the cap" you can do it bit by bit every year.
Yup, I agree with the 4 year plan thing, and I think even that is a longshot at this point. It shouldn't take that long if you have the right people in place.
We're also basically wasting an entire season's worth of games on the offensive end because outside of possibly Allen and Dawkins...I'm not sure we literally have another starter quality player that's being developed. I said from the beginning that I didn't care about the record for the first couple of years, I just wanted to see some legit young talent being developed. Instead, we're both losing and we're bereft of talent. Bad combo.
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Just now, Gigs said:
Should’ve built on that team he lead to the playoffs instead of deciding it wasn’t his team, like some egotistical prick.
I actually think it was the right thing to do to continue with the rebuild. I thought that team was mediocre at best and didn't have a high ceiling, and it was a little flukey that they made the playoffs.
What I don't like is the way the rebuild is going so far. Not by record, but talent-wise we should be further along after 2 offseasons than we are. We basically have an entire offense to build still after 2 years.
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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:
Enjoy the whine fest.....your tears are clogging up the board
Yup, there it is again. If someone disagrees with anything...they're whining. But of course you're not a homer.
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6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
I am simply saying that if this is causing you that much pain there is probably another team out there that would make this more enjoyable for you.....
If fandom is being out there criticising ever little move and not seeing the big picture of the team......that sounds like a poor choice of your time
Again...what YOU think is the big picture of the team. Many people disagree that management is taking this in the right direction. Doesn't mean they need to leave.
Sometimes I think about how cults were formed or how so many people were on board with slavery or with the Nazi's...and then I see things like this and remember how people think this way.
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Just now, John from Riverside said:
WTF....how is it irrelevent...if they are losing on purpose then they are doing EXACTLY WHAT THEY SET OUT TO DO
It has nothing to do with being a homer...it has to do with waiting to see the final product...which is not coming this season.
Because that's YOUR opinion, and you're telling people that if they don't agree with management, they shouldn't be fans of the team anymore. That has EVERYTHING to do with being a homer. It's the very definition.
If you're just debating that you believe Beane and McDermott have a direction and that you feel they're doing a great job...whatever...but telling people they should jump off the bandwagon if they don't think that is telling people to be blind followers.
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1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:
I think they are losing on purpose
Completely irrelevant. You just told people who have been debating, civilly, about the job the GM and coach are doing without ever mentioning wanting to stop being a Bills fan to jump off the bandwagon...meaning you believe that being a fan means you should just support management at every turn.
At least own that you think being a homer for management is part of being a fan, because you just very bluntly demonstrated it.
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2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
I see a train stop ahead......it would be a good place for the bandwagon to get a little lighter
Door is thhhhhhaaaatawaaaay........feel free to use it
So you're essentially admitting that you believe being a homer is part of being a fan. If you disagree with management or don't think they're getting the job done...you shouldn't be a fan of the team. So that means anything you say has to be taken with a huge grain of salt because you believe part of being a fan is to blindly agree with everything management does, right?
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5 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said:
Josh Allen is the centerpiece of this team like it or not. The Bills need to build around Allen's strengths. Mobility and arm strength are his his best attributes. The Bills need to design plays that best fit his talent and he is comfortable with. They need to draft mobile offensive linemen that can pull and are good at screen blocking. They need receivers who can be deep threats whom Allen can get the ball to. They need sure handed Tight end who can block and a north/South running back who can catch.. A good offensive coordinator does not make a QB fit their offense, you make the offensive fit your QB. The offensive should run sweeps, screens and roll out passes so a defense cannot target one spot on the field. Allen can roll left and fire the ball to the right for big plays.
Well we've had 2 offseasons under this regime and still need an entire offense. We're on pace to possibly fill all of these holes by the time Allen retires.
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1 minute ago, Jobot said:
Disagree that you can claim this.. I think we've seen plenty from the defensive side. The thing about the 40% stat of the team made up by year 1 and 2 players is that year 1 and 2 players have THE most room to improve (when compared to a veteran). So the Bills have got significant upswing potential on their roster.
Shore up the O-Line in the draft.
Add an explosive WR in FA40% of the roster now in year 2 and 3 results in improved play
...I just don't think tossing McDermott is the best idea.
You're overrating what we have and marginalizing how much we need.
What players on the offensive side of the ball do you think are potential legitimate starters on a championship caliber team? That's the end-game here right? A player being young doesn't automatically mean he's going to improve just because he has the most room.
And "shore up the o'line in the draft"? Do you know how much we need on the o-line? It's not like we're missing one piece. We have 1 legit starter on the O-line, and that's after 2 offseasons. We're supposed to believe that they're going to find 4 in one?
We have no starter quality WR"s or TE's. Our 2 best RB's are both 30.
It's a total mess. It's almost hard to believe we're this bereft of talent after 2 offseasons. Even by shear, dumb luck we should have more than this.
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1 minute ago, Success said:
No, but I can guess at what they’re doing. It’s a total rebuild - which they will never tell the media.
Fans here aren’t used to that kind of rebuild. We’re used to regimes that try to take half measures in the spirit of staying minimally competitive.
That's being used a crutch now. Part of the rebuilding process, a big part, is talent development. Who's being developed right now on the offensive side of the ball? What are we getting out of having Derek Anderson start these games? Why don't we have another young QB that we could be giving these valuable starts to develop as a legitimate backup or possible starter in case Allen's a bust? They've had 2 offseasons to find one. They watched Peterman last year, it was definitely enough to see he wasn't a guy they should have solely relied on to be the backup.
Beane and McDermott are either inept or flat out lazy for not being able to find literally ANY other options. Neither is a good thing.
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1 minute ago, Success said:
I don’t want Beane or anyone talking to the media about strategy like they’re an open book.
This is ridiculous.
That's fine...but the problem is there's nothing on the field that shows any kind of direction either.
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8 minutes ago, Jobot said:
They put a bunch of band-aids on the offense. They've got $80million in cap money next year. This is the NFL, you can't mask lack of talent with any scheme.
I love this built-in excuse of the $80 million in cap money next year. Do you know how many teams have a lot of cap space for next year? This has the potential of a roll-over excuse for McBeane next year too if they don't end up spending much of that.
The truth is...we have less young talent than we should in year 2 of what a successful rebuild would. We shouldn't have this many band-aids on offense in year 2. We basically still need to put together an entire offense with skill players and at least 3 positions on the offensive line. It's downright scary how much work there is to do on that side of the ball.
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It's amazing how things don't change here. He basically is a Jauron replica and the same people who liked DJ are the same people who are defending him now, and for the same reasons.
Jauron's teams were the kings of the moral victory. I remember in those first 2 years how much praise he got from certain people about how the team "stays in" games.
It's the same ultra-conservative offense with a bend but don't break defense that allows the team to stay within striking distance...but it's not going to get you a lot of wins. The problem is, these types of coaches are content with that.
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20 minutes ago, row_33 said:
D looks good because the opponents are taking it safe knowing it’s a gimme win if they don’t fumble the ball away on their five yard line
This is unfortunately the truth. The D is solid but it's not great. Our offense is so bad that it can basically let a good team just cruise and play not to lose.
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Hue's been a good assistant coach in different spots in his career...but this guy clearly wasn't head coach material. Kind of like our situation at head coach.
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4 minutes ago, Watkins90 said:
He'd make a good O.C. for us next year.
I don't see how he survives this season if he doesn't win a SB. Wasting another one of Aaron Rodgers prime years with bad coaching and stupid decisions.
I want nothing to do with that guy. He could only win 1 SB in 13 years while having HOF QB's...one of which is arguably the best of his era, and had him during his entire prime.
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2 hours ago, Fadingpain said:
Because we have a glorified gym teacher who is at best a good defensive coordinator running the team?
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These are my fav uni's...with the old school helmets...
Why rebuilding isn't an excuse for what's happening this year
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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We're in year 2. How in the world does last season wipe out a year?
The job of a new regime when they come aboard is to evaluate and determine the direction of the organization. They did that and decided to rebuild. The team was mediocre, got to 9-7 and with a little luck, made the playoffs. And I gave the regime credit for continuing the rebuild because I agreed that the team was mediocre at best without a high ceiling. There's no point in being mediocre. It was the right thing to do to continue the rebuild.
But they haven't amassed the amount of talent they should have after 2 offseasons. We still have the entire offense to go and we need to get younger at a couple of positions on defense. This is at least 2 offseasons of work, maybe more based on the pace that we're on now. In today's NFL, it's a slow pace, and front offices that are slow in this league don't last very long.