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5 minutes ago, StHustle said:
whose jet is that? 🤔It’s a NetJet, which is the company Bills and tons of other companies use for charter. It could be chartered by the Bills are any of the thousands of other people, companies or organizations that use NetJets.
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32 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:
Actually the Bengals spent more money and 49er's almost as much as the Bills. So actually it's more a case of those teams making bad player or coaching choices as the money hasn't helped them.
KC certainly has spent very little, but now down to only two outliers so have to question if more to the story with them.
There's also many teams with bad records AND bad ST rankings so that would just as easily say it's a good investment; NO, Indy, Tenn, Denver,
Spending roster spots, and big $$$ on special teams is not a wise allocation of resources in the long run. Having great special teams is not, nor will be the reason any team makes a deep playoff run.
For example, cutting Isaiah Hodgins while keeping Kumerow because of special teams seems foolish. That said, keeping Taiwan Jones year after year for only special teams seems more foolish.
Drafting a punter in any round is bad allocation of picks. Extending a punter for 3 years 7.5 million when you could get one that would be just as good for near league minimum.
Any of this end of the world? No. But in a league that operates so close to the margins it seems to be a bad strategy if at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter that much to winning a Super Bowl.
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Nice work, but the bigger point is does it matter? The Bills clearly emphasize special teams, why?
Bills and Cowboys only 2 teams in playoffs final 8 teams in the top 10 special teams DOVA, and the Cowboys were 10th.
Final 4 teams in playoffs special teams DOVA
Eagles - 13th
49ers - 15th
Bengals - 18th
Chiefs - 19th
Seems they keep focusing on a bad investment.
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2 hours ago, dhgold said:
I live in Denver. During the three years that Juedy has been on the Broncos, he's generated more negative news than positive. He's hurt a lot, he drops a lot of passes and he's prone to emotional melt downs. Yet he's still one of the Broncos most valuable assets. No way the Bills should offer anywhere near as much as I'd imagine the Broncos would want for him.
IMO, Bills resources should go into improving the OLine.
This ^^^^^^^
I too live in Denver. He finished season pretty well and you can definitely see the talent. But ask yourself why would an offensive coach like Peyton immediately try to trade a top 10 drafted, cost controlled WR? Because he is immature, has bad attitude and loves him some social media. Doesnt seem like a McDermott type of guy. Don’t see it.
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I know my life has never been the same since I was 8 years old and an 18 year old drunk, recklessness driver T-Boned and killed my mother less than 2 minutes after dropping my sister and I at school in Rochester.
My heart and life miss her every fu*king day.
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43 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:
My standard is as long as we’re getting an opportunity to win you don’t sit there and B word about everything
If the team starts losing, then you make changes
Note nobody that does anything with basketball operations does what these fans think should be done
Nobody that earns their living doing this starts making wholesale changes to a winning team
The Chiefs after losing the Super Bowl to Bucs completely changed their whole offensive line. After Chiefs lost to the Bengals in AFC championship game made wholesale changed to their WRs including trading a top 5 WR and drafting and starting a 7th round RB.
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Just now, John from Riverside said:
You sound spoiled
Whats your standard?
What’s the point if winning the Super Bowl is not the standard now with this QB and team?
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11 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said:
So after we put McDermott’s head on a stake… who do we replace him with that is guaranteed to deliver a Super Bowl?
An offensive Head Coach, as both participants in last 4 Super Bowls were offensive coaches. Ben Johnson Lions OC would do.
No coach/qb combo in NFL history won their 1st Super Bowl together after year 5 together. Maybe MCD will be exception but history says they will need a new coach to win it.
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13 minutes ago, DapperCam said:
Chad Hall wants to be an OC and didn’t see a path towards that here. I’m not too worried about that one.
What’s the quicker path to OC, Dorsey being fired or Super Bowl winning OC/Head Coach Doug Pederson being fired? This wasn’t about a quicker path to OC.
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12 minutes ago, Billl said:
Getting fired after going 7-10 is a far cry from getting fired after winning the division for 3 straight years and losing in the divisional round. If you fire a coach who just went 13-3 and won a playoff game, the job would be looked at as a career killer.
He would be fired for how he lost his last 4 playoff games. Blowing 16-0 lead at halftime in 1st playoff game, blown out by KC next season playoff, 13 seconds the next, and blown out at home in last season ending playoff game. Not to mention he is a defensive head coach in era of offensive coaches getting to and winning the Super Bowl. Winning Super Bowl is the goal right?
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37 minutes ago, beebe said:
They said this about Bill Cowher.
They said this about Tony Dungy.
They said this about Tom Coughlin.
They said it about these guys all at the exact same time!
Then Cowher broke through in 2005. Dungy broke through in 2006. Coughlin broke through in 2007.
Then they moved on to Andy Reid. And now Andy has broken through twice.
The guys who experience super early success in getting their Super Bowl ring — the Sean McVays, the Mike McCarthys, the Doug Pedersons, the Sean Paytons — those guys are the outliers. The rest of the coaching world is subject to dealing with the odds, which are NEVER in their favor, bad variance and bad luck.
No team has ever started the same quarterback under the same head coach for more than five years and seen that duo win its first championship. If McDermott wins a Super Bowl with Allen this year in year 6 or beyond together, it will be the first time that it’s been done in history of NFL.
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The Five-Year Rule: No team has ever started the same quarterback under the same head coach for more than five years and seen that duo win its first championship.
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1 hour ago, NewEra said:
Yeah, defense didn’t matter 2 years ago when tampa rolled them and KC scored 9. It didn’t matter last year when the rams held Cinci to 20. It didn’t matter when the pats held the rams. Or when KC held SF to 20. Or when the pats held the rams to 3 points. As if 2023 was the first year in the “Mahomes era”
You can’t make this stuff upI literally have a hard time understanding how some of you don’t understand or see such a simple concept and point. I’m not going to go around and around with those who don’t actually care to read correctly. SMH.
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3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Let's look at the last decade of Super Bowl winners and use what I think is a better and more telling stat: defensive DVOA, which factors in a lot more than just raw yards and points.
2013: #1 overall defense (Seattle)
2014: #12 overall (New England)
2015: #1 overall (Denver)
2016: #16 overall (New England)
2017: #5 overall (Philly)
2018: #19 overall (New England)
2019: #14 overall (KC)
2020: #5 overall (Tampa Bay)
2021: #5 overall (LA Rams)
2022: #17 overall (KC; Philly was ranked 6th overall this year, btw)
So: half of the SB winners in the past decade have had a top five defense and twice the best defense overall has won it. No terrible defenses have been SB winners either (while the 2019 NE defense wasn't great, it wasn't a bottom feeder and it stepped up to essentially win the SB vs. LA by itself).
I said in the Mahomes Era. The current QB, Coach and team that is the standard now, currently.
Use DOVA, fine. 3 of the past 5 SB winners were 14th or worse in defense. BTW the 2 who weren’t Bucs and Rams were 3 and 8th in Total Offense.
Both the wining and losing coaches in past 4 SB were Offensive coaches, that’s 8 for 8. 7 of the last 8 playoff teams this season were offensive coaches.
OFFENSE wins Championships now in the Mahomes era, not defense. That’s my point.
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25 minutes ago, NewEra said:
What does this have to do with the previous 4 super bowl champions holding their opponents to under 21 points? What does this have to do with my point—— defense does matter?
are you also saying “defense doesn’t matter”? That was the original title of the thread. OP has now changed it
A great defense does NOT matter, a great offense DOES in the Mahomes era.
Having an offensive minded Head Coach DOES matter, a defensive Head Coach is a LIABILITY in Mahomes era.
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Let’s look at the last 4 Super Bowls, the Mahomes era.
1). Both the winners and losers of last 4 Super Bowls were coached by offensive coaches.
2). The defensive ranking of the winner of last 4 Super Bowls have gotten lower and lower each season. None in top 5. The last 2 Super Bowl winners rank 15th and 16th in Total Defense.
3). The last 5 Super Bowl winners have a top 10 Total Offense, 4 of those 5 were top 5 in Total Offense.
Your point of a team winner Super Bowl with a terrible defense may be true. A mid table defense is enough if you have an elite offense. The offense in this Mahomes Era is so much more important and this team has neglected it. An offensive minded Head Coach has literally made 100% of Super Bowls in this Mahomes era. Could it happen to this version of Bills, maybe? You wouldn’t bet a whole lot on the small chance it could with the Bills as currently constructed.
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35 minutes ago, NewEra said:
I agree. My point is, again, defense matters. It didn’t matter in this Super Bowl.
Coordinators game plans and play calling can be just as effective as investing heavily in great players, like Spags has shown in both the chiefs SB victories. Getting stops when needed. It wasn’t Chris Jones making the :rd down stops. It was Spags blitzing of average LB Willie Gay. Winning games of chess when it matters most.
the problem with our drafting of defensive players on day 2 isn’t that we drafted defensive players. It’s that the players that we drafted haven’t developed into what they had hoped. If AJ and Boogie had turned into Josh Sweat or Chris Jones, the problems on offense wouldn’t be under the same microscope. The fact they they busted is the problem imo. Maybe that’s the players being drafted fault. Maybe it’s the coaches fault, or a bit of both.
Either way, teams with terrible defenses rarely win the Super Bowl for a reason. Defenses do matter. Defensive play calling matters. That’s my only point.
Let’s look at the last 4 Super Bowl, the Mahomes era.
1). Both the winners and losers of last 4 Super Bowls were coached by offensive coaches.
2). The defensive ranking of the winner of last 4 Super Bowls have gotten lower and lower each season. None in top 5. The last 2 Super Bowl winners rank 15th and 16th in Total Defense.
3). The last 5 Super Bowl winners have a top 10 Total Offense, 4 of those 5 were top 5 in Total Offense.
Your point of a team winner Super Bowl with a terrible defense may be true. A mid table defense is enough if you have an elite offense. The offense in this Mahomes Era is so much more important and this team has neglected it. An offensive minded Head Coach has literally made 100% of Super Bowls in this Mahomes era. Could it happen to this version of Bills, maybe? You wouldn’t bet a whole lot on the small chance it could with the Bills as currently constructed.
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17 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Bills fans would have ran him out if he didn’t a win a SB after a while. Like Eagles fans did. Like Steelers fans want to do with Tomlin. There is zero patience anymore.
English EPL soccer teams fire coaches after a couple of months, but 7 years in Buffalo we need to still be patient.
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42 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
That may or may not be true. What is true however is that neither of them are going anywhere this season. So it's kind of a moot point to harp on. Is this going to be the state of the board all year? Posters talking ish and rooting on their failures in hopes that theyll be gone? Feels really toxic around here right now.
The fact that it is a moot point is exactly what pisses everyone off. We do the same sh*t every year, with the same people who make the same mistakes.
All the while the Chiefs completely overhaul their OL and retool receivers after trading one of the best away. Eagles hire a young, aggressive, offensive coach while drafting and WR in top 10 and trading for an addition top 5 WR. Bengals over haul their OL, draft WR and then draft another one right after. 49ers trade for Christian McCaffery, we trade for Hines and use him 4 offensive plays.
So yes, not only do neither of them go anywhere, they all just stay a do the same dumb stuff doubling down on freaking defense every year. They learn nothing, say nothing and we all are to just trust the process. Ok 👍.
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10 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
I know the end of the season was disappointing. But i'm amazed at how this board has become almost exclusively Sean McDermott hate posts as of late. The amount of vitriol towards he and the rest of the coaching staff is incredible.
He and Beane deserve all of it from football perspective. Not personal.
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5 of last 7 Super Bowl winners score 31 or more points, and Beane and McDermott have decided every year to double down on freaking defense with an elite QB on the roster! Just inexcusable negligence toward Allen and this offense.
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22 minutes ago, HomeTeam said:
I'm confident that McDermott and Beane were watching the championship and Superbowl games and will make the necessary adjustments.
I know it hurts to see the Chiefs win again but we have to stay the course. That's my thoughts on the matter.
You have to be kidding me!!! Your post is sarcasm right?
They have watched 5 of last 7 Super Bowl winners score 31 or more points, and then decided to double down on freaking defense with an elite QB on the roster!
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Having a defensive head coach in a offensive/QB era is a real problem in 2 ways.
1). Continuity on offense. If OC is good he is hired elsewhere, if OC is bad he is eventually fired. Hired or fired is bad for QB and offensive consistency. The QB and a OC Head Coach is the stability in this current young gun QB era that works the best. 7 of final 8 in this year’s playoffs were this setup.
2). HOF QB Steve Young talked about this recently and it was fascinating. Basically he said having a defensive coach as head coach was a problem for the offense because his natural or maybe even unconscious traits are to make decisions that protect their defense. I had never thought of it like this. For me in playoffs you definitely see McDermott defaulting to this thinking, much to the detriment of the offense and team in general. His game management decisions, either punt/go, FG/go or timeouts for example lean heavily toward protecting the defense. His natural instincts in pressure moments are to trust a stop more than trust Josh to get 2 or 6 yds on 4th.
Sean is a good coach and likely a better man. It’s just how he fits into this era and with how our team is built.
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20 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:
I agree with this especially when you have a generational Qb. Kc turns no stone to provide those things for Mahomes. I think they gladly give a bit up on the defensive side of the ball but they pay an aggressive d and found some disrupters on their D line.
I believe Mcd knows the pressure is on. I don’t remember ever hearing him mention winning a Super Bowl so much in his season ending Pc. Before the line was figuring out how to leap Kc. I think the players right now want or maybe demand answers, we want answers and we seem to be just stuck.
Sure the window is always open with Josh but the Afc is loaded with some really talented Qb. We need to get to a Super Bowl and looking at next years schedule along with limited resources this off-season, the hurdle to make that next leap is quite tall. Patience is waning and other teams both AFC and NFC are building talented rosters.
I’ve heard a lot of discussion recently regarding having an offensive mind as a head coach so you don’t risk losing them if they do a good job. Makes sense.
I am a big Mcd fan and appreciative for keeping the team together but it’s a legitimate question if he can take us over the top..and how long do we wait.? .
I can only wonder what the thinking is at OBD for this season.
They may chalk the past season up to all the injuries and expect his D to revert back to a dominant form with what we hope is a healthy Von coming back.
Dorsey will be in second year and we did score a lot of points but how much of that was Josh willing us to points vs less than inspiring play calling at times?
So I guess where I am at is I just don’t know where we go lol And maybe neither does Beane judging from his end of year conference .
I think they realize that a good number of investments haven’t panned out. We took a big shot on Von but we probably should have made that move the year prior at the trade deadline..
Its frustrating because I feel less confident going into this season and Josh is going into year 6 now…
Maybe our Super Bowl year will be a year with a little luck and less expectations..
Having a defensive head coach in a offensive/QB era is a real problem in 2 ways.
1). Continuity on offense. If OC is good he is hired elsewhere, if OC is bad he is fired. Hired or fired is bad for QB and offensive consistency.
2). HOF QB Steve Young talked about this recently and it was fascinating. Basically he said having a defensive coach as head coach was a problem for the offense because his natural or maybe even unconscious traits are to make decisions that protect their defense. I had never thought of it like this. For me in playoffs you definitely see McDermott defaulting to this thinking, much to the detriment of the offense and team in general. His game management decisions, either punt/go, FG/go or timeouts for example lean heavily toward protecting the defense. His natural instincts in pressure moments are to trust a stop more than trust Josh to get 2 or 6 yds on 4th. That’s a huge problem for me.
This doesn’t make Sean a bad coach, or bad leader. It makes him a bad fit for this team and this era.
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DraftKings Sportsbook has set the Buffalo Bills’ win total for the 2023 NFL season 10.5 wins
in The Stadium Wall
Posted · Edited by Billsflyer12
The schedule is insane, one of hardest I’ve ever seen. As of now I had them at 9 or 10, so 10.5 seems about right.