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1 hour ago, Shaw66 said:
No, it's not clearly false. You just aren't listening.
McBeane have been very clear, completely clear, so clear that anyone with a brain couldn't possibly miss it: As far as they are concerned, the most important quality in any player is character. Is the guy a good teammate? Is the guy an intense competitor? Does the guy have values? Is the guy about football 24-7-365. If the answers to those questions are "no," McBeane don't care how big the guy is, how fast he, how high he can jump. From that standpoint, McDermott probably does believe that his roster is better than it was when he got to Buffalo. The two most obvious examples are Waatkins and Dareus. They had demonstrated over and over, before McDermott came to Buffalo and after, that they weren't true team guys - they believed in their talent, not their teammates.
You may not agree with that approach, but that is how McBeane approach roster building.
Oh, I misunderstood. You're where I am; that is, you want a coach who wins, and if you have one who wins, you'd rather that he said something interesting in the press conferences. I agree with that completely. Last season I stopped paying much attention to McDermott's post-game press conferences.
Once in a while in the off-season, on the other hand, he actually does say some interesting things.
Beane is amazingly open in his pressers. He's worth listening to.
I actually agree with this. Faith, family and football is their thing. Is it possible that they love Peterman so much because he is such an huge, outspoken evangelical Christian? Hot take, yes. Far fetched based on what they have said and done since taking over, I don’t think so. They want their “type” of guys on team, and clearly character and Christianity is a core belief of that.
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11 hours ago, Shaw66 said:
Oh, my. It's begun.
Not sure it has begun. Its more that there are many people, including myself, who have never bought into this GM or Coach. I didnt like either hire, but seeing they really didn’t have a track record, waited to see what they do. We now have enough track record to have an opinion on how they are doing.
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It will all be ok, remember Faith, Family, and Football. This must be gods plan for the team!
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13 minutes ago, Clemfield2622 said:
i agree. especially when our team has been so god awful at drafting, you need as many chances as you can get.
i will ask again, who was the last late round/UDFA player who really developed into something for us?
Maybe a better question is who really developed on teams that actually consistently win. EIGHT Patriot starters just on the Offense alone were drafted rounds 4-7 or signed FA.
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16 minutes ago, Clemfield2622 said:
obviously hindsight is 20/20 but passing on a QB last year let to this avalanche of blowing draft picks.
If they had just taken Watson or Mahomes last year, they wouldn't have gotten Tre and an extra 1, but they would have their starting QB this year.
The trade up for Dawkins didn't costs much, 2 5th's
The trade up for Zay cost a 3rd to move 7 spots. That could have been starting quality player. JuJu went #62...
So fast forward to this year. Say the Bills still do the Glenn trade, they have pick 12. They take Edmunds there.
This allows them to keep 53, 56 and 65. That could have been 3 more big time impact players.
They botched that pile of picks so badly...
Another great post. Spot on also.
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36 minutes ago, TaskersGhost said:
Here's the thing, with this draft this year McBeane had a once-in-what (20-year?) opportunity to build the core of their team. '
They originally had 6 draft picks in the first three rounds, the 96th of which (last pick in the 3rd) on Phillips.
That means that the other five picks, mid-1st to 3rd/65th (1st pick in the 3rd) that they used on Allen & Edmunds. Edmunds could have been gotten with the 12th pick meaning that in essence Allen cost the organization the other four picks.
Regardless of what thinks of Allen, or whether he does/doesn't work out, building a team in that way signifies a GM/HC that are novice/kid-in-a-candy-shop/OJT.
They could have built the OL in order to build a foundation, for any QB. Any. Instead, they opted for the far riskier "their guy" option. Well this just in, they could have Rodgers back there and he'd be operating at a fraction of what he's capable of due to the lack of a quality team around him. Does McBeane really need to have this explained to them? I don't know, maybe they do.
It's not the method that I would have chosen and not a method from whence championship play/teams comes from. But it's what they chose which IMO speaks volumes.
Some are talking about 10 picks in next year's draft, but the team only has one pick each in rounds 1-3. Teams aren't built oni 4th-7th rounders in that way. The opportunity to have lain a foundation in spades was this Draft, and they opted not to.
They aren't going to have 5 or 6 seasons to prove that they've OJT'd themselves into competence. They're going to sink or swim now on Allen. I'm not sure I'd want my future career hinging on a QB that has no OL, no WRs, a RB with one foot out-the-door, an overrated defense, and no reasonably possible way to build all of that within two more seasons given how they squandered their opportunity this year.
Their "gambit" is Allen. But only a fool would wager everything on a QB w/o really any of the core pieces in place otherwise in order to build a winning team.
The on top of that, signing players like Lotolelei to enormous contract when not one metrics site had him rated as anything other than below-average, and why, because McBeane come from Carolina and they know better than everyone else?
Fumigating the place from Whaley is necessary, but the moves they're making are hardly career-endorsing moves. Like all GMs/HCs, they'll have three seasons to "prove themselves." I have absolutely no idea how putting the pieces in place, particularly with the bar of a playoff "appearance" now being the backdrop, is even possible.
The fans and media are already getting impatient as the buffoonery continues. This isn't going to end well for them despite how well Allen turns out. And frankly, it's fine that Allen's "their guy," but unless he turns out to be everything they claim he is, then given their other moves, they're not good coach & GM, because the rest of their moves collectively are below-average.
One of best posts I’ve read. Spot on.
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Which is a bigger joke "The Tape'" or "The Process?"
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This is why as a union the NFLPA gets smoked by owners with every CBA. They need to remain quiet, let the union speak on the matter whether they like it or not. Owners and management love this talking by the players. Divide and conquer the players and win every CBA negotiations.
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Sign Reinhart.
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2 hours ago, Forward Progress said:
Without trading Glenn, we don't have the equity to trade up for Josh Allen.
Trading Glenn was the right choice and I believe it was worth giving up Glenn to acquire Allen.
Or they could have not given up TWO 2nd round picks to get Allen. Could have given up 1 to get to 10, draft Josh Rosen. Then take Brian O’Neill out of Pitt at 56 for example. Rounds 1-3 of Rosen, Edmunds, O’Neill and Harrison sounds better to me then Allen, Edmunds and Harrison especially after trading Glenn. IMHO.
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I like Schopp and agree with him most of the time. Guess I’m in the minority of listeners that post on this board.
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Why does he even bother? I like him, but he never says anything. Every time he speaks I feel like he is just wasting everyone’s time. Just stop with interviews and press conferences, just continue being a good coach.
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4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
I bet there are few if any "devout Christians" on the team (who would play on Sunday?).
Although they all seem to thank Jesus after a big game...
I mean, like Jesus is really laying his money on the Bills....
God not laying any money, he is more the bookie. He takes action from both sides of every game. Team wins, God gets all the credit, team loses it is just part of gods plan.
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McDermott hired a full time team Chaplin just after he arrived. I think is may have been the 1st time in organization history, if I remember correctly.
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5 minutes ago, TUBSTER said:
There are plenty of QB's that don't turn out well because of accuracy, but that doesn't mean all of them do. Here are some QB's that threw under 60% in their college career:
Brett Favre 52.4%
Matt Ryan 59.9%
Matthew Stafford 57.1%
Michael Vick 56%
Jim Kelly 55.6%
Joe Montana 52%
Dan Marino 57.6%
Josh Allen 56.2%
Also note that if Allen had completed 1 and 1/2 more passes per game this year he would have been at 62% instead of 56%
I assume that whenever someone brings up the stat that had he only 1 more catch per game his % would be 60, that we can also say if he also had 1 more incompletion per game his % would be 52, right?
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Stats will never be able to tell you everything about what a player can do. They can provide a lot of information, along with historical reference that paint a probability of success. And in the case of Josh Allen, it would take a spectacular outlier performance — one that hasn’t happened this decade — to live up to the expectations of a top-10 pick.
Is is possible he could be the outlier from the past decade of data, YES. Do I hope he is the outlier, YES. Was Tom Brady an outlier, YES. But the overall data picture tells us historically his probilility of success is really small.
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2 hours ago, tumaro02 said:
Absolutely a fan. He has the DNA for the Buffalo Bills. Josh Rosen did NOT have the DNA and its not at all surprising he was not taken.
What does DNA for the Buffalo Bills mean. Why does he have it and Rosen doesn’t? Beane has said something to this effect and I really have no idea what either of you mean.
BTW, I was born and raised in WNY.
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1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:
This is all true and well stated. The problem is that even in light of all of that information and context, there were still snowflakes out there who were disgusted and wanted nothing to do with Allen.
I didn’t like the tweets, but get he was young. I wanted nothing to do with him because he was a bad college QB. Hope he proves me wrong on both accounts.
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As a guy whose mind is wired for data and numbers, I certainly appreciate that not all minds think the same way. There are times I wish my mind didn't.
Maybe the best example I can think of is buying a house. You find a house you love, most people then look at price, comps, Sq Ft, school rankings and many others pieces of data that paints a picture. At end of the day some use that data to form a risk analysis that tells them weather it is a smart investment. Others will just look at the house they love and say who cares, we can fix the house up and help fix up the neighborhood, we can make it better.
I guess neither is right and wrong. I prefer to use data, to form a picture that increases my probability of success. It is not 100%, like any data there are outliers, I hope Josh Allen is one of them.
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6 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:
What is “adjusted completion percentage”?
You can put numbers around anything. Whether they mean anything or not is another matter.
Adjusted Completion Percentage = (Completions + Drops) / (Pass Attempts – Spikes – Throwaways – Batted Balls – Balls disrupted by a QB hit)
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46 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:
Allen threw the ball 373 times in 2016 and 270 times in 2017. Wyoming lost a lot of talented offensive players after the 2016 season.
Yet, he ranked 101st out of 133 qualifiers in adjusted completion percentage in 2016.
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19 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
The analytical writers know the what, but have no idea how to explain the why.
It looks to me as if they're making predictions based on numbers but completely ignoring context. They're comparing the completion percentage of a guy at Wyoming to a guy at Oklahoma, which is absolutely absurd.
College stats are more about the offensive system than the quarterback.
Is this Context? Good news is there are a couple of comparable that say it may work. Almost all say it won't.
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30 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
SBNation had a write-up here: https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/4/24/17271686/josh-allen-nfl-draft-2018-stats-analysis-comparisons
I have posted this and a couple of other write-ups, not sure a single person has actually opened and read them. Was wondering the percentage of posters here like or believe in data and stats, looks like most don't care.
"A couple of plays/throws he'd like to have back" and other press conference complaints
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Making playoffs last year while fun, maybe one of the worst things to happen to this franchise LONG term. The last years team was not a good team, got lucky to get in and created this sense that McBeene can do no wrong with a large segment of fan base.