Peace Frog

Add to that a stud TE and solid deep-threat receiver, and you have the makings of a pretty good team next year.

Personally, I think we should've kept Lynch and not drafted Spiller. Not to knock the kid but we needed more help on the D-line than we did at RB. I don't know if this falls on Gailey's shoulders but hopefully next draft, we get Chan some better talent to work with on defense.

The only way to build a good team is with a good GM and scouting staff. See Bill Polian, Scott Pioli,........

For me, it is a toss-up between the Houston Oilers comeback game of '93 and the division winning in '90 against Miami. I was there for both.

I say 4-12.

Put Spiller on the roster as a WR in place of Hardy.

Preach on! I look at every starting position on this team and ask myself, "Who would I want from the rest of the league to start in place of _____?" The only guys on this team that I would keep as starters if I could pick from the entire NFL is Moorman, Byrd, Wood, and maybe Lindell. That's it. I'll cut the rookies some slack since this is their first real game but the rest can go pound sand.

I get the worst gas from chicken sushi.

I can't believe Edwards hasn't been more successful than he has, considering all the talent he's been surrounded with.

or David Klingler, Dave Brown, Tommy Maddox, Jim Druckenmiller, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown, Chad Pennington, Micheal Vick, Todd Marinovich, Dan McGwire, Rich Campbell, Kelly Stouffer, Jeff George, Patrick Ramsey, Alex Smith..........

I think that since this is Chan's first HC job in 11 years, he'll want to make a good impression. I expect him to put the best players we have into the most favorable position to win. If that means Trent is the starter, so be it. I am reserving judgement until the end of September. If we can go 2-2 in that month, I think this team has possibilities.

I wasn't accusing you of hanging out around the gym. I was merely quoting from the movie Airplane, like a few of the previous posters did. "Lighten up, Francis" was also a quote from Stripes.

Is your avatar Lucy Pinder?

My least favorites, by position: QB - J P Losman (indecisive wuss) WR - Peerless Price (hands of stone) RB - Travis Henry (Mr. Fumbles) TE - Robert Royals (couldn't get open if the defense suddenly went blind) OL - Mike Williams (fat, lazy POS coward) DE - Erik Flowers (complete 1st round bust) LB - Keith Ellison (worthless) DB - Donte Whitner (a cross between a CB and a waterboy) HC - Mike Mularkey (inexperience showed) OC - Kevin Gilbride (needed Buddy Ryan to slug him more than once) DC - Chuck Dickerson (a loudmouth know-it-all who couldn't get the most out of the front seven)

Must be a good memory for you. Lighten up, Francis. Just playing along like most of the others on this thread. And yes, Spiller looks pretty impressive.

Do you ever like to hang around the men's gymnasium?

Born Cheektowaga '64 Moved to Orange, TX '77 Moved to West Seneca '90 Moved to Dallas, TX '95 Moved to Vancouver, WA '06

Past: Once Proud Present: Spirit Crushing Future: Gone Elsewhere

I plead the 5th.

The latest I heard was that Bill Cowher and his wife were married. Take it for what it's worth.

That is true. My point is this team has a lot of disease and will require lots of medicine and some amputations before respectability returns.

I'm a bit more hard-core than you guys. I compare every player on this team, per position, to the rest of the league and see how they stack up. My list of players (starters only) I would keep is as follows: 1. Fred Jackson 2. Jarius Byrd 3. Brian Moorman 4. Rian Lindell Players I'd keep as depth: 1. Andy Levitre 2. Eric Wood (if he can still play) 3. Kyle Williams 4. Reggie Corner Players I'd put on the practice squad: 1. Aaron Maybin (who should be an OLB in a 3-4, IMHO) 2. Shawn Nelson 3. Jonathan Stupar The rest of the team would be traded or cut. My reasoning is as follows: My starters consistently show me something every week. My depth players either have great potential, are diligent, or have not been contaminated by this culture of losing. The remaining players on the roster are either too used to losing (see Lee Evans), just don't have it (see Chris Kelsay), are dogging it (see Marshawn Lynch), are injury-prone (see Paul Posluszny), or are past their prime (see Marcus Stroud). Anyways, that's my two cents.

Hey, at least the fish are getting spanked.

Damn, you.......

I'm with ya, bro. I've just about had enough to the point where I'm giving up on football. If Ralph screws this one up, I'm done. By the way, I'm just across the river from you, in Camas, WA.