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  1. 33 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said:

    EVERYONE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS POST BY VORPMA.  10 games into a new regime. R-E-L-A-X. Yeah I wanted to believe and go to the playoffs too. This team has been playing so far above it's head and in the beginning of the year had tremendous luck. (Matt Ryan's forward pass. . . .um  . .  fumble, etc.) Anyone on TBD who claims they know football saw what I saw when you watch every second of every game and that is the Bills were not a very good team with many glaring issues. The wins were fun and the losses suck, but let's BREATHE a little bit before we crucify the new HC/GM. I like TT and I was for trying out NP. And for the record I am for trying NP out again against KC. In reality this is a six game tryout for next folks. Now all we can do is kick back, root for the Bills win or lose and see whose future looks bright.  

     

    If it looks like a duck and it quacks like a duck and it swims like a duck, I'm calling it a duck.    Well, McDermott and Beane look like the two of the most incompetent ducks to ever swim in WNY waters, and that includes some real prize specimens, among them Dick Jauron, Hank Bullough, Jim Ringo, and Harvey Johnson.

     

    I am out of patience with the bull manure the Bills organization has been dumping on its fans for almost twenty years.  When Ralph Wilson was the owner, I accepted that he was an old man and set in his old fashioned ways, but that's not an excuse any more.  If the ownership and management of the Bills have some other agenda than winning football games, which apparently seem to do,  then I'm done with them.  I sure as hell am not going to waste my time watching their crappy brand of football.

     

  2. 2 hours ago, reddogblitz said:

     

    That's what you said last week.

     

    Oh, and things can always get worse.

     

    Going into Arrowhead where even when the Chiefs are bad (although I don't think they've ever sucked as bad as the Bills did last week) they usually win is definitely worse than playing in that clunky soccer stadium where the Chargers play.  

     

    Playing a probably very angry, very talented Chiefs team is worse than playing the Chargers who are just good enough to find new ways to lose close games.  Luckily for them, the Bills weren't within 3 TDs of them in the closing minutes.

     

    Playing a top ten rushing team is worse than playing the twenty-fifth ranked Chargers, especially when the Chiefs have Kareem Hunt.  He'll probably ring up 200 yards on the Bills all by himself.

     

    It's gonna be a long, long Sunday afternoon.

    1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

    If McDermott names Peterman to start he should be fired on the spot!!!

     

    You're assuming it's his decision alone.  It's possible it's not.  Nothing that the Bills have done with personnel in 2017 has made much sense, so why should they start now?

  3. 1 hour ago, SaviorPeterman said:

     

    Forget Schwartz, it was not keeping St. Doug who I always felt was going to be the next Bill Parcells type of coach and he's well on his way to turning around another pathetic NFL franchise in his first season as HC in Jax.

     

    Biggest problem with the Pegulas is they seem to be easily manipulated by the used car salesman types, whether Russ Brandon (who miraculously not only kept his gig with the Bills but had it expanded to the Sabres as well), Rex Ryan and now McD/Beane.

     

    I think that letting Marrone and his assistants escape was probably a major blunder but certainly keeping the powerful suits on the second floor at OBD was a much bigger one.  I'm with the posters who think there should have been a "football guy" -- a czar, an independent GM -- who took care of the football side.  I think that Donahoe had that role until he was fired but I'm not sure.  There hasn't been anybody like that since.

     

    1 hour ago, Mrbojanglezs said:

    Good DC. Bad HC

     

    Likely, but remember that Belichick failed as a HC in Cleveland and Pete Carroll in NE and in NYJ.  I don't think that I'd lobby for Schwartz as the Bills HC though.

     

    1 hour ago, vorpma said:

    This board is about as crazy as its ever been; try to grasp that the Buffalo Bills Organization, over a 17/17 year period developed a lousy organization with a losing culture, now we demand the playoffs in McBeane's first year. Anyone who thought this team was even close to a playoff contender is seriously misguided, even with Dareus, Watkins and the rest of the mediocre over rated guys that we have discarded. Sorry, this is a process - check out previous rebuild jobs!

     

    What I object to is the wholesale purging of young talent from this roster in the name of rebuilding when it was for some other reason entirely.  Teams that are rebuilding dump the older, big name players.  I happen to think it was for the purpose of cutting costs but maybe it was just McDermott being a jackass.  What I do know is that some of the most talented jettisoned players like Gilmore, Woods, and Gillislee were allowed to leave in FA before McDermott had any real opportunity to evaluate how they fit into his "system" or whether they bought into his "process" so that makes the claims that these guys didn't have the "skill sets" that McDermott wanted seem like just so much bull manure.  Trading away Watkins effectively emasculated the offense by eliminating any downfield threat.  Trading away Dareus at the trading deadline for even less than the stupid Bills got for Marshawn in 2011 spectacularly emasculated and probably demoralized the defense.

     

    BTW, if you think Woods has played like a "mediocre over rated" guy in LA, you need to broaden your horizons and watch some good football teams instead of restricting your viewing to Bills low-lites.

     

  4. 32 minutes ago, Da webster guy said:

    Man Cordy is such a big piece of the puzzle.   It sucks that he can't shake this ankle.   

     

    I like Dawkins, obviously Bosa thinks he's a little better than Mills or he wouldn't have kept moving over there.  We need some consistency on this line so badly.

     

    Unfortunately we are probably going to start losing productivity out of Richie and Eric Wood soon and the whole line will be a mess.   We will see some serious O-line moves in the offseason, it's impossible to win without a serviceable line.   Easy to say, but in reality it's very hard to put together for a GM and coaching staff.

     

    John Miller and Cordy might both be gone next year.  We invested a lot in those two.

     

    My thoughts exactly.  I thought Glenn was going to go before the trade deadline but I think his ankle prevented the Bills from getting it done.  There were just too many rumors and "reports" in the media about rumors that Glenn was on the block for it not to have had some validity.  With the Bills, where's even a whiff of smoke, expect a major conflagration to follow.

     

    The problem with ankles is that they take a long time to heal, probably because the joint's rather complex.

     

    If the Bills brain trust was smart, they would realize that Glenn, Dawkins, and Miller could form a good OL foundation if they returned to the blocking schemes they used in previous years.  That might give both Wood and Incognito a year or two longer, too, so that the team could draft and groom replacements.  Unfortunately, that's highly unlikely to happen simply because it's too sensible and none of those guys are "their guys" like that gem Ducasse. 

  5. 19 hours ago, Elite Poster said:

     

    The guy who was playing well, who is helping turn around one of the league's worst Run D's had less to do with our collapse than a guy who never played a snap in the regular season for the Bills and is barely playing in KC. 

     

    um. 

     

    I'm curious as to why the Bills didn't play Ragland even one snap.   What they had out on the field was so superior?  Really?  Or did he pee in McDermott's cereal and get sentenced to be sent to KC?   I'm wondering, too, about why Dareus didn't play more snaps.   The claims were that he wasn't "playing well enough" but he's doing so well in Jacksonville that Marrone has been giving him more snaps.   One explanation, a very snarky one, might be that since the Bills wanted him gone, they wanted the fans to believe he wasn't any good.  Another explanation may be that he's the kind of player who thrives when he's "busy" like a RB who's better carrying the ball 20+ times a game rather than just 5 or 6.   A third explanation may be that the Bills FO didn't want to risk Dareus getting hurt when they were desperately trying to trade him before the trade deadline for whatever reasons they had.

     

    2 hours ago, Tatonka68 said:

    Good for him, the Jags and the Bills. Bills should get a 5th round pick for him now. In the off season when Marcel smokes weed, gets the munchies adds pounds and drag races himself into jail the Bills get the last laugh. 

     

    This is the same warning alarms Bills fans constantly chirped while Marshawn Lynch was racking up yards and helping the Seahags to a Super Bowl.  How'd that work out?

     

    1 hour ago, PolishDave said:

     

    Move on to what?

     

    Becoming the worst run defense in the NFL?

     

    Jimmity crickets.

     

    I think we're already there.  It's just that the stats don't accurately reflect current status.

     

    1 hour ago, SaviorPeterman said:

    It's truly going to suck watching St. Doug and Mularkey make the playoffs this year especially considering both were the only HC's during the drought to get this team to 9 wins and resigned because they were smart enough to know a terrible front office and incompentent ownership were going to drag them down in the long run.

     

    And that's just it, nothing has truly changed under the Pegulas compared to the Wilson days. It's the same pathetic circus under a new tent.

     

    Welcome to "the Dark Side" where it's not taboo to call a duck a duck when it looks and acts like one.

  6. 19 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

    Just stop with this incessant crap.

     

    Very depressing day obviously.  When Benjamin gets hurt so early could tell it was bad karma.  But the billionaire owner is not telling the front office to save money.  That is just inane.

     

    If it's such "crap" then why are you so upset by it?   Don't like reality intruding on your excuses? 

     

    The loss Sunday wasn't because of "bad karma".  It was because of the incompetence of the coaching staff and the arrogance of the Bills FO.

  7. 1 hour ago, corta765 said:

     

    Realistically this off season they should fill in the draft QB, DT, MLB, and OT. Figure in FA they get SLB and CB, they are left needing OG/DT/NCB plus your RB in Shady's mold although these days you can find RB's in rounds 4-6 #kareemhunt so I wouldn't overdraft for that unless its Barkley. That fills a decent amount of the needs while still needing some help but thats similar to everyone. To me the big key is who the QB is and fixing the middle of the defense which is being run/passed over badly.

     

    For the record I have zero clue if the needs I have filled or happen its just best case hypothetical bs...

     

    Realistically, that's not happening.  QBs, DTs , and OTs are positions that generally take 2-3 seasons for the prospects to become decent, and probably another year for the good ones to separate themselves from the pack.  These are much more complex positions in the pros than in college, and all involve learning about the quirks of individual opposition players, so the learning curve is longer than other positions.  If these guys aren't taken in the first or second rounds, it will likely take them longer to come up to speed.   LBer is really the only one of those positions that could be expected to be filled adequately by a talented rookie. 

     

    More importantly, how many positions can be filled, theoretically at least, through the draft and through FA depends upon who's available.   The number and quality of players at specific positions vary.  Some drafts produce more OLers or WRs than others.  The same with FA.   Teams that are perennial winners like NE, Pitt, GB, Philly, Minnesota, and KC tend to draft for talent at the top of the draft and more for need in the middle of the draft.  They try to maintain a pool of talented younger players around a core of key veterans.

     

    The Bills are too busy shuffling their rosters to please their latest HC du jour to worry about building up either a core of key veterans or a pool of talented younger players.  They're all scrambling to fill holes they've created themselves.

  8. 1 hour ago, DriveFor1Outta5 said:

    This ^ Guys like Watkins, Darby, and Dareus hadn’t  helped us win anything. An argument could be made that we should have kept them to build around, but it’s not as if we lost consistently great players. I was on board with the trades in the beginning. Somewhere along the way, the process became muddled. It didn’t make sense to let Watkins go, only to trade for a receiver. We were said to be accumulating draft choices. Why would we give them away in a win now move ? Why keep a very “non-process” guy like Incognito? Why keep McCoy on the roster? He’s a guy who is too old to be part of future success. The process seemed like something that hadn’t been seen in Buffalo during it’s early stages. At this point,  the process seems to have no direction. 

     

    Yeah, we know ... the Bills only got rid of scrubs and kept the diamonds in the rough.  Tell that to Marcel Dareus, Ronald Darby, Mike Gillislee, Stephon Gilmore, Sammy Watkins, and Robert Woods who all look to be playoff bound.

     

    8 minutes ago, Azucho98 said:

    The "current office" has been here for what 11 months?  I don't think its quite time to throw them under the bus.  Perhaps they actually know what they are doing.  Only time will tell.

     

    Time has already told.  They reduced a modestly talented team to an expansion franchise in 11 months.  That's probably some kind of record.

  9. 59 minutes ago, BuffaloBill said:

     

    A run of bad decisions?  Starting Peterman, according to McDermott, was his decision.  Play execution against the Jets and Saints was not his decision. This to me does not seem to be a run of bad decisions as much as it is the reality that a misaligned, if not poor roster of players has been exposed.

     

    The Jets figured out exactly what they needed to do to shut the Bills down offensively.  The Saints probably did not much more than borrow form their gameplan.

     

    The Bills have sucked on both lines for three games now.  

     

    The problems go far deeper than the QB though I would argue the QB situation makes the entire situation worse than it really is.  The Bills do not have an NFL caliber QB on their roster.  The decision to go into the season with Tyrod Taylor and try to feature a run first offense in a league where nearly everyone else is a pass first or balanced concept is the first point of derailment. 

     

    The Bills do not have an NFL caliber roster period.  McDermott and Beane have seen to that by getting rid of virtually all of the Bills young talent since they arrived on the scene.

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  10. 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:

    A veteran quarterback who performed terribly in his previous start. With the way the defense is performing, the team's QB can't be checking down or eating the ball. He has to take chances, which Peterman did (obviously to poor results).

     

    It was the wrong decision in hindsight ("Hindsight is 20/20.") but stop pretending as if it was some sort of travesty.

     

    Get a clue.   I criticized your lame attempt to absolve McDermott of the responsibility for his poor decision, not McDermott himself.    I'm not even sure it really was his decision, but as HC, falling on his sword to protect his superiors' butts when they do something stupid is part of his job description, so he has to own the decision and face the consequences.

     

    The decision was wrong for several reasons, not the least of which was that it told the players that the coaching staff had given up on the season themselves.  Inserting a rookie QB as starter is something that teams do when they have no hope of having a winning season not when they're sitting as the sixth seed in the playoff races.

  11. 10 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

    There is a growth process for coaches too. 

    I was concerned about McD’s learning curve this preseason. Sometimes the hardest lessons are the lessons that really sting.

    All coaches have some sort of bravado about them. All leaders do. The question is, does he get rattled or does he keep on keepin on  and build for next year.

     

    McDermott is not that much of a noobie.

     

    8 hours ago, GreggTX said:

    TT may be the best option right now, but I think they've already decided that he's just not good enough so they wanted to see what they had with Peterman before the season ended. I don't disagree with that decision. Who knew the kid would implode like that in his first start? Better days are ahead for young Nate.

     

    My guess is that Tyrod has likely decided that the Bills aren't good enough for him, either.  You can bet that guys like Gillislee, Gilmore, Woods, Watkins, Dareus, and Darby are all ecstatic that they were lucky enough to escape.

     

    4 hours ago, #34fan said:

    Again. McBeandip was just doing their due diligence... At least now they can finally wrap their heads around the scale of tire-fire they've inherited. Starting Peterman was the best thing they could have done.

     

    They didn't "inherit" a tire fire, they created it.  Zach Brown, Ronald Darby, Marcel Dareus, Mike Gillislee, Stephon Gilmore, Marquise Goodwin, Sammy Watkins, and Robert Woods all left, via trade or FA, on their watch.

     

    44 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

    As I predicted might happen, this decision drastically sped up the Pegulas' evaluation of its coaching staff - just like Peterman, McD's flaws are now on tape for the world to see.  As a sad bonus, McD has probably lost his team.

     

    I can see a "one and done" scenario if someone like Gruden or Harbaugh frees up.  I firmly believe that McD assured Terry that the roster would be competitive this year notwithstanding the aggressive (highly questionable) moves to rid the team of talent (McD = Pol Pot), and that McD further and specifically assured ownership that the time was right to make a QB change.

     

    The decision to start a reckless, noodle-armed, unprepared Pete Naterman with the playoffs in reach will go down as one of the dumbest NFL coaching decisions of all time.  I don't see how McD recovers his career, quite honestly.

     

    If the decision to start Peterson was truly McDermott's and not somebody higher up the corporate food chain, then it was truly bizarre.  NFL HCs don't give up shots to win games or make the playoffs; it's not in their DNA.  Even ol' Dick Jauron would put winning ahead of auditioning a QB when a team was 5-4 and was holding a playoff spot.

     

  12. 2 hours ago, Utah John said:

    I think they were worried that Darby would follow Gilmore out the door in free agency, and we'd get nothing in return.  Also he did have a less good year last year compared to his rookie year.

     

    He's playing OK for Philly but keep in mind he's playing behind a much better, more aggressive D line that puts a lot more pressure on QBs. 

     

    I don't know what kind of influence he was in the locker room.  Could be he simply wasn't committed to Buffalo and may have let out that he'd be leaving when he could.

     

    As to the overall team, they're pretty bad, but this is exactly the team that we thought we'd have at the start of the year.  It's only because they played over their heads and got some lucky breaks that we started thinking playoffs this year.  That was never the expected outcome for the year.  It was fun while the mirage lasted, but that's all it was, a mirage.  The Bills are being built to win in 2019 -- get through this year, draft a ton of good rookies and pick up FAs next near, and have a good team ready to win in 2019. 

     

    It isn't wait until next year, it's wait until the year after that.

     

    I disagree.   This team has been much worse than any Bills team has ever been over the course of any three games in its history -- and that history includes some pretty terrible teams, and no, this wasn't the team that "we thought we'd have at the start of the year".   Most fans thought that the Bills would at least be competitive with most teams even if they didn't win a lot.  This team is uncompetitive, and it's uncompetitive because it's been deliberately stripped of almost all its younger talent in a matter of months, and that talent has been replaced by rookies and scrubs.  A poster yesterday stated that the team was the equivalent of an expansion team, and that seems about right.  It's going to take a whole lot longer than a couple of years just to bring the talent level up to where it was when McDermott and Beane came on the scene, especially if they're the ones doing the talent selection.

  13. 2 hours ago, Wayne Arnold said:

    The odd crucifixion of Sean McDermott by the media simply because he decided to try something different by seeing if a rookie QB could spark the offense is strange to me...but far from surprising. 

     

    I'm always on football coaches (especially in the NFL) for being too conservative. I call most of them gutless meatheads because they ignore analytics when they punt on 4th and 2 from the opponent's 39 yard line.

     

    But it's obvious why they are the way they are.

     

    Because football coaches are much more likely to be ridiculed when they go for it and don't convert than they are when they punt.

     

    Coaches who take risks put themselves out there. And are blasted when that risk doesn't work out. Meanwhile, the coaches who never take risks are able to skate by with little attention. Sure, they'll rarely succeed...but they at least keep their jobs and collect a paycheck for a while before getting fired.

     

    And I'm sick of people treating the quarterback position like something sacred. As if replacing the starting QB for a game (or even just a half) is some sort of travesty like the coach is destroying the sanctity of football by doing it. It's one position. If the QB plays poorly then the next guy should be given a chance. Who cares?

     

    Say what you want about McDermott - but I applaud him for his willingness to try something to turn around an anemic offense. It didn't work and it was wrong.

     

    McDermott went for it and the conversion failed.

    This is nonsense.  The Bills got the crap beat out of them three straight games. With his team holding the sixth seed and with a record of 5-4, McDermott changed from his veteran qb to a rookie qb who had never started an NFL game before. That rookie qb was unprepared to start an NFL game and had a horrendous game, throwing 5 ints in just the first half, and you think McDermott being criticized by the press is an "odd crucifixion"????  In what universe do you reside?  Why the hell shouldn't a professional football coach be held accountable when his team plays terribly or when he throws an unprepared player out on the field for any reason other than dire necessity like injury?

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  14. 1 minute ago, Bangarang said:

    This team looks no better now than when we had Chan and Fitz. We’ve spent years drafting high but we don’t have a single young stud on this team. Meanwhile McD keeps repeating the whole process thing but can anyone say what his vision is? What’s the plan really? 

     

    McDermott and Beane have stripped the team of talent the way Jauron did.  Chan inherited Jauron's expansion team and actually added some talent.  Whaley added more ... and McDermott and Beane have remedied that in short order.

  15. 15 minutes ago, SDS said:

     

    The owners know this team is talent starved. Regardless of what happened the last three weeks, it isn't a Rex Ryan clown show. It's a talent-poor show. The owners will be patient while that talent is accumulated. 

     

    They are not rudderless at all. Both teams have serious professionals in all positions. Both teams are talent poor and in the first months of massive changes. 

     

    Why are both teams "talent starved"?    Oh, yeah!  :doh:  Because those "serious professionals" jettisoned almost all of the best and youngest talent on the teams in order to fill them with scrubs.  Those "serious professionals" are simply playing money ball.

  16. 14 minutes ago, SDS said:

    I think this GM/coach will stick around. They will have a long leash, unlike past Pegula hires when they relied on other people picking coaches for them.

     

    Ummm ... Marrone was hired before the Pegulas bought the team.  The Pegulas have nobody but themselves to blame for Rex Ryan and his clown show since they wanted him even though Whaley wanted somebody else, supposedly Hue Jackson.    I believe that the Bills used a search committee to select McDermott, and that Beane was hired after him, after the draft, possibly with McDermott's input.   Nice revisionist history, though. 

     

     

  17. 12 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

    Lot of the injury stuff in coincidence and bad luck, not on the medical staff. 

     

    Watkins would be gone anyway. 

     

    I think he Dareus trade is the only one that is troublesome ... he must have been a big distraction. 

     

    Watkins would have been here this year, and he never said he wouldn't have re-signed with the Bills.  He's a WR drafted high in the draft ... they are ALL prima donnas, and they complain all the time.  It's more than likely that the Bills weren't interested in re-signing him at the market rate for WRs.

     

    And Dareus wasn't a distraction.  There was never any whisper about him causing any kind of trouble in the locker room.  Somebody on the Bills wanted him gone, and since the Bills had been trying to peddle him even before OTAs, I doubt it had anything at all to do with whether he "bought in" to McDermott's system.  My guess is that Dareus realized that he wasn't wanted on the Bills, and that affected his attitude or his work ethic.  Obviously, he feels wanted in Jacksonville.

  18. 1 hour ago, Foreigner said:

    Benjamin, Matthews and Gaines were acquired in trades. Were they damaged goods? Were they ever vetted medically?

    Was it a coincidence all three had physical problems before they were traded? You have to wonder why the

    Panthers rid themselves of Benjamin and why they even let Beane and McDermott go. 

     

    The Bills needed bodies to fill holes, so they took what they could get, especially since they didn't want to pay too much for them.  Except for Benjamin, I don't think the other two had much, if any, recent injury history.   Players get hurt, especially DBs and WRs since they tend to be somewhat smaller than many of the guys hitting them.

     

    If the Bills got duped, it's because they essentially swapped their late mode well equipped Subarus and Toyotas for older model stripped down Fords and Dodges simply because they were cheaper.

  19. 12 minutes ago, DrPJax said:

    They better start questioning Frazier.  Wtf defensive scheme is he running and why is Preston Brown , Humber both still on the field. When was the last time we made a tackle for loss, especially from the lb position.  Hyde and Poyer are getting killed facing running backs with a full head of steam coming untouched into the defensive backfield.   There are gaping holes and at least once I saw brown being pushed out of a play by a running back blocking in the area where Preston started the play at.  Since taking Milano out the lbs can’t drop, can’t cover, and sure as hell are not plugging gaps.  Worst play I can ever remember by a bills team and that’s saying a lot.  How does a defensive minded head coach see this d and d coordinator as acceptable right now.? 

     

    Unfortunately the the line is also a catastrophe now .  They look ok starting a game ,eg the drive with shady scoring. But after that they were looking like an old line and resulted to typical holding penalties.  I don’t see how you fix this slide.  It’s both sides of the ball.  It really does look like they may lose out. Every team they play coming up is playing at least competitive fotrball.  Bills are no better than the Browns right now , and actually the Browns gave the jags a good game today.  Team is being completely out coached    They have enough talent with good coaching to at least not be blown out like this.  This is a historic collapse and even clown Rex didn’t suffer blowouts like this.  He must be laughing all the way to the bank as he deposits Pegulas money.   Bad time to be a bills fan.  I mean bad millennium!!  This is hard to believe. BBFS. 

     

    I think Frazier is likely to be the scapegoat and get the axe.   IMO, Frazier did a really good job masking the Bills defensive deficiencies, primarily lack of talent, as long as he had Dareus to plug the middle on obvious running downs, but he simply doesn't have the talent now.  I don't know if there's more to it, such as Williams and Alexander getting old.  As on the OL, there may have been scheme changes that these guys are struggling to adapt to.   Certainly Preston Brown played better when he had more talented players around him and a better DL rotation.   

     

    If Glenn were healthy, I think there would be enough talent on the OL for it to function decently but the players, except for Ducasse,  have simply not adapted well to Dennison's zone blocking scheme.    Maybe it's not all the players but only 1 or 2 who are struggling but that's more than enough to derail plays with regularity.  Certainly, Ducasse doesn't help.  He's a scrub who has been a bust on every team he's ever been on as a pro. 

  20. 1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

     

    Now should we be worried that so many talents don’t seem to be able to fit?

     

    You noticed that, too?  Apparently talent is not part of the "skill set" that the Bills regime are seeking since they've managed to strip the Bills of so much of it in such a short time, and apparently without any regard to the consequences to the product they put on the field.  

     

    The Bills -- I don't just include McDermott and Beane here because I think they are taking orders from higher up the corporate food chain by those focused only on the bottom line -- have displayed a really callous disdain for their fans and their fans' loyalty IMO.  I don't know how else to describe the personnel moves that they've made since just before the trade deadline.   There was a real chance that the Bills might have made the playoffs this year simply because of how bad the AFC is, but apparently saving a few million dollars on Dareus' salary was much more important than breaking the 17 year playoff drought.   That's how much the Bills -- not the Bills players -- care about winning football games because to the suits in OBD, it's all about maximizing profit.  Money ball.

  21. 2 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    It’s amazing what people will justify. As of right now, how can anyone view it as a good move? The Jags defense is good and the Bills stinks.

     

    Why are you amazed by what Bills fans continue to justify from OBD after all these years of their putting crappy teams on the field?   Any excuse that OBD comes up with to shipping out a player who has supposedly "transgressed" (which lately apparently means making more than the league veteran minimum salary) gets instantly slurped up and regurgitated by the brainwashed legion.  Sometimes OBD doesn't have to come with excuses; they just get rid of the player and let the True Believers make up lies to blame the players ...  The True Believers will never hear a bad word about the Bills.  Every move they make is brilliant.  They still stubbornly cling to the myths that trading Jason Peters and Marshawn Lynch were good moves.  They're not going to admit that trading Dareus was probably at least as bad, especially if Dareus goes on to have success in Jacksonville.

  22. On 11/15/2017 at 8:45 PM, Buffalo30 said:

    Even though it may not look like it, Tyrod is more talented than some of the starting QBs on teams right now.  He may have a market, not for a high pick but who knows.  I've seen worse QBs traded

     

    It doesn't matter.  The Bills don't really care about the cap except when they can use it as an excuse to not re-sign their own players.  They care about actual $$$ they spend.  Taylor is due a bonus of several million at the beginning of the new league year, so he'll be cut before that date.   Since the entire NFL knows how the Bills operate, nobody will offer them anything.  Money ball.

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