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34 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
Not Photoshopped:
8 playoff appearances, including a Superbowl and 2 conference championship games in the first decade she owned the team
3 Superbowl appearances during her ownership, including a Superbowl win, "Greatest Show on Turf"
What have most of the other owners achieved that worked out so much better?
Pesky things, facts.
34 minutes ago, 100DollarBills said:I don't think Brandon was a good president, far from it. But even I think he has more qualifications than Kim. Kim is just a fan who happens to be the owner of the team. Just because you are the owner doesn't mean you are qualified to handle football decisions, you leave that up to people who have dedicated their lives to the sport.
Are you aware that Brandon's claim to fame when he joined the Bills a several years before taking over as defacto boss of the team was cutting the Florida Marlins' payroll from one of the highest in MLB to one of the lowest ... and turning the Marlins from World Series winners into cellar dwellers in a single season, MLB's biggest first-to-worst turn around ever? That's a positive qualification for a sports team's president/ceo? I suppose it is if the president's forte coincides with the owner's desire to maximize profits regardless of how the team performs on the field, which it did while Ralph Wilson was the owner, but new owners, new rules, new expectations.
In general, an organization's president is someone who provides a philosophy or vision that guides the organization. He or she also manages competing interests by setting priorities, delegates authority, and is the public face of the organization. Depending upon the organization, he or she may do much more or somewhat less, but are usually not particularly involved in the business's day-to-day operations. Being a "people person", as Kim Pegula has been described as being, is a plus for any organization's president because they are expected to deal with a wide range of individuals, from other employees to government officials to the media, and any/all of these may include individuals who are difficult to deal with.
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On 4/27/2018 at 2:05 PM, TheTruthHurts said:
There are always QB's with 1st round physical tools and poor football IQ on the field. They get ranked high all the time. They always fail.
And teams always fall for them, and the Bills more than many since Kelly retired: trading for Rob Johnson, trading up for JP Losman, and drafting EJ Manuel. They weren't even smart enough to keep Bledsoe until the end of career and get some value for the first rounder they gave NE for him.
I'm not optimistic for Josh Allen, not because of his obvious weaknesses but primarily because of the obvious weaknesses in the Bills: questions about the quality of offensive coaching as well as the apparent lack of interest in shoring up the OL and the WRs. He's certainly not coming into the best situation for a young QB who has a lot to learn about playing QB in the NFL.
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As much as I would personally prefer TC to return to Fredonia, I really don't think it's happening. It's possible that the Bills might move the TC to another site now that a SJF alumnus is no longer the president -- and I have no particular reason to believe there was anything not on the up and up with the Bills/SJF relationship, just that with Brandon out, SJF probably lost it's key "advantage".
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13 minutes ago, Rob's House said:
Please explain how you drew that conclusion from my post.
Very simply: if you had, you wouldn't be shoveling the misogynistic manure you've been shoveling in this thread.
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16 minutes ago, Rob's House said:
You misrepresent the argument. It's not that men have no ability to control their behavior, but rather that much of natural male behavior has been vilified (see "toxic masculinity"). Further, there is an active movement to expand "sexual misconduct" to apply much more broadly so as to include behavior that many don't believe should be treated as such (see Affirmative Consent).
Pointing out that this agenda is advanced by third wave feminists doesn't undercut that point at all. It's just stating the obvious.
You obviously have never had a girlfriend or wife or sister or daughter coerced into having sex with her boss in order to keep her job.
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5 hours ago, kota said:
The amount of glee people are having of this is truly pathetic.
Cry me a river for Russ Brandon. The only thing I'm sorry about regarding Brandon's firing is that he got axed because of his personal behavior and not for his incompetence as a football executive.
4 hours ago, USABuffaloFan said:Anyone taking pleasure of this announcement is just SIC! Your not a true Bills fan, just a troll. We all have good and bad memories of Russ running the Bills in different capacities. I wanted him gone!!! Not like this.
I always looked at Russ as a family man from Rochester to Western NY. Young guy who grew up in the Bills atmosphere. With power come a enormous burden to be more moral than the next guy. That is not easy, most men don't understand and alot of woman will exploit that. I would not want to be married and live their lifes. As a single guy, never married and 52 I can tell you alot of stories of the stuff I have seen with married men at bars. Doesn't matter what I do I am single but most married men behave worse than I do as a single guy. The point is don't judge or be judged. I am sure someone has seen something at one time in your life you would not want known!!!!!!!! No one but Jesus is moral enough to cast a stone here. Russ, good luck in your life. What ever happens here, be honest with your wife and keep it between your family. Us Bills fans don't need to know and don't want to know. Take care of FAMILY. Been a tough "20" years but I don't hate it, worse that happened is we needed to bomb out some times and give up on players quicker but knew alot of good men in that time, Kelsey, Williams, Woods, Jackson, Fitz, etc... You kept Levy legacy going, you loved NY. Fix your life, be a man, power isn't everything, family is. God Bless and find peace.
You're only 52? Reading your post, I pegged you to be at least 80 with attitudes more appropriate to the 1950s than the 21st century. Russ Brandon cheated on his wife, apparently over a relatively long period of time. He also knowingly violated modern standards of employer/employee conduct by having a sexual affair with a subordinate. He then lied to his bosses about it, which led them to investigate and apparently find more problems with his conduct. How is any of this defensible? Let me guess ... the Devil made him do it!
I don't know what kind of FAMILY you come from, but among my relatives, even the redneck ones, there's certainly not much tolerance for infidelity, lying, and bullying, much less rationalization of such behavior.
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5 hours ago, Lurker said:
In the 13-year stretch from 1967 to 1979 they made the playoffs once and won a total of 60 games--an average of 4.6 per year (0.322 win %). In eight of those 13 years, they won 4 games or less. They won 7 or more games only four times over that period.
In the 17-year "drought" era, they won a total of 112 games or 6.5 per year (0.412 win %). In nine of those years, they had 7 or more victories. They won 4 games or less only two times.
IMO, mediocre (2000-17) was a lot more palatable than bad (1967-79), and I too have been here through all that frustration...
I think the difference is that between 1967-1979, effective player FA was very limited and the salary cap didn't exist, so that there was much more inertia in team success, ie, good teams tended to stay good and bad teams tended to stay bad for much longer than they do today. Today, the norm is for teams to rise and fall with considerably more frequency. The Bills have been a rare exception as they have failed to have even modest success on the field, at least until last season.
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4 hours ago, Nitro said:
Russ was hated and now the whipping boy is gone. Who is next for the fans to pillory?
How is the guy who was in charge of the Bills since the firing of Donahoe (2006) be considered a "whipping boy"?
4 hours ago, Lurker said:Only a matter of time. If there's one thing Bills fans are good at, it's finding new scapegoats...
Cry me river for poor Russ Brandon. The Bills had only 2 winning seasons since Brandon took over in 2006 (2014 and 2017). Brandon ran the show, so he's responsible for the results, which stunk. He's not a "scapegoat" or a "whipping boy" or a victim. He failed, so he's out.
3 hours ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:Yeah, because that will win SuperBowls. But as long as the women are happy, that's all that matters...
How close to winning a Super Bowl have the Bills come since 2006 when Brandon was given control of the team?
3 hours ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said:I'm not saying he is blameless, but he did a hell of a job considering who he had to work for.
See above. As the man in charge of the Bills, Brandon sucked. He should have been terminated because of the team's poor record when the Pegulas bought the team.
3 hours ago, Lurker said:The late 1960s-early 1970s are calling you young man. The Bills were today's Browns once upon a time...
I've been a Bills fans since the early 1960s, and no, the Bills have never been as bad for as long as they've been under Brandon's watch. Even in the miserable days of the late 1960s and 1970s, the Bills occasionally managed to put together a winning season or 2 and even make the playoffs. They never went 11 straight seasons (2006-2016) with only 1winning season and 0 playoff appearances.
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On 4/30/2018 at 9:35 AM, Midwest1981 said:
Silva is a notoriously difficult grader, anyway, but this is a particularly scathing review. I don’t agree with all of it (though I agree 12, 53, & 56 was an exorbitant cost for 7), but I do have to say that I sure hope the Bills’ plan is to give Allen the Goff/Trubisky treatment. What I mean is giving him the superb coaching, receiving options, and line protection the Rams and Bears have made a conscious and concerted point to do the last two offseasons.
Right now Allen has very little of what he’ll need to succeed- and he already has some individual development to do, of course.
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/79600/174/2018-afc-draft-grades?pg=1
I can't disagree with Silva's review. Over the last twenty or so years, "project QBs" like Allen who've been taken in the first round have been singularly unsuccessful, so the prospects of Allen's success aren't promising.
On 4/30/2018 at 9:40 AM, Magox said:The word is that the Bills were in a bidding war at 7 with the Cardinals and that they both coveted Allen. Whether or not you personally like Allen is besides the point and you have to throw out the draft chart if you are going after your franchise QB, specially considering that they were trying to target him at 5. If you are going after someone at 5 and trading 2 2nds would have been a deal at that slot but now you are still targeting the same guy at 7 and now all of a sudden it's not a good "value"? That's stupid.
They "overpaid" because they were about to lose him to the Cards. If you believe that you could be getting your franchise QB and you trade away 2 2nds to get him along with a 1st rounder, I would say that is not too much to give up.
I remember claims circulating after the 2004 draft that the Bills "had" to get ahead of one team or another or lose Losman to some other team. The reality turned out that Losman would have probably been available in the 2nd round, and if he hadn't been, it wouldn't have been a loss at all. Hopefully, we won't have to say the same thing about Allen, but I'm not hopeful.
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3 hours ago, May Day 10 said:
Im sure the Bills' business side is going to plummet into smoldering ruins now
Well, now the Bills will have to come up with a new business plan, maybe one that includes winning more than 9 games a season more than every 20 years or so.
3 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said:While I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion here, both because of Brandon's (some would say deserved) unpopularity amongst the fan base, and because of a rush by SJWs and those afraid to confront them, to assume the guilt of any man accused of misbehavior; before I celebrate steps towards the financial ruin of another human being, I'd like to hear/see the evidence, know how the investigation was conducted, and hear Brandon's side.
Until then I stand opposed, on principle.
Brandon wasn't fired because of allegations of sexual misconduct. He was fired because he lied to one of his employers, Kim Pegula. Execs can survive all kinds of trouble -- as Brandon had proven over his years with the Marlins and the Bills -- but they're dead meat if their employers catch them lying to them. At Brandon's pay grade, that's an unforgivable personal betrayal.
As for Brandon's financial ruin, I suggest he contact Tom Donahoe about how to deal with the reduced circumstances of a fired ex-top exec.
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1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:
AGAIN! if your read any of my posts in past or replies you would obviously see I am not Loyal to Allen.. I am Loyal to the Bills. And Until Allen pas out to be good bad or indifferent I am font going to spend every breath of my day slamming there decision.. They no more about football then most of people that come on these boards combined and I have to trust that process.
I also find it laughable that you NO HE IS bad lol...
On thing I wont do witch you seem to do very well is live in the past..
This GM and coach took a team after 17 years of failure and got us into the playoffs and change the spirit of the team. seeing that you have 0 spirit please do talk on..
I can agree with you on that much
FTR, you used the word "no" for know in your original post which is why I put it in quotes in mine.
As for living in the past, there is absolutely no proof that the current regime is any better at building a winning team than previous regimes. All the new bodies at OBD are just that, new. They may be better than the old ones or they may be worse or they may be about the same. None of these folks have even been around for a full year yet, so declaring the Bills FO as "knowing what they're doing" is premature at best. This has been said just about every time the Bills have changed GMs/HCs since Bill Polian left. What can be said at this point is that McDermott seems to be a better HC than previous ones (or maybe luckier) ... and he was hired under the old FO, not the current one.
PS. the proper word is which not "witch". Is English not your native language or did you just sleep through your English classes since sixth grade?
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36 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:
So I get it. This was a tough draft for fans. 50% like Allen and the other 50% liked Rosen and you can twist those numbers to your liking.. I don't care that's not the point.
What exactly happened to getting behind your team? Allen is a Buffalo Bill now, Like it or not.. So why not support the decision and hope for the best? What is with these
people day after day with repeat threads of HATE towards the Bills organization as a whole or the GM? What is with everyone with there crystal balls KNOWING he will be
an ALL PRO or a BUST? What is with comparing Allen with all our past failed QB's as if they were linked? As if this is the same GM "the same old Bills" making the "same
old bad mistakes"..
Come on here and complain about the pick after a year or two when we see how good or bad Allen actual is? can we actually just do that?
I have been a Bills fan since my first game I want to back in 1979 and have stayed with them good or bad. I Laughed, gotten mad and even cried over the first SB loss.
to many people on these boards have forgotten what being a sports fan really means. You back your team up good or bad, you back up the decisions GM and coaches
makes until they screw it up.
You shout! You Holler! You Swear! You Cry! You Laugh! You Clap! You complain about everything big or small but at the end you support the team!
Go out there and support our team.. Support the Allen pick at least until you 100% no he is bad.. then come on these boards and be negative.
I support the Buffalo Bills
Thank you for the read and I will accept what ever opinion you Have
because its your right. Just don't forget the execution comes after the judgement
If you want to be Susie Cheerleader for a team that has given its fans 17 straight years of missing the playoffs and only 3 winning seasons in the last 18 years, be my guest. Don't try to tell me or other fans that we shouldn't criticize the organization. The Bills have forfeited their claim to blind fan loyalty with their continual failure to win football games over nearly 2 decades.
Since you are such an Allen loyalist, you best not criticize him until the Bills send him packing. That's when we'll "no" he is bad, right? ... I mean, since we as fans, aren't allowed to express our opinions.
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3 minutes ago, NewDayBills said:
Well, honestly, I sincerely question how much football you've watched. I mean, did you at least watch 25-30 minutes of highlight videos before you judge? You could at least do that. You're not entitled to an opinion until you at least do that.
Edmunds is 6'5 250lbs and has drawn comparisons to Brian Urlacher. Edmunds is not only the best LB in the draft, he has the ability to be better than Luke Kuechly.
Especially since the Bills traded up to get him, and Beane has such an established record of recognizing collegiate talent.
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8 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Or, we could just wait until they fail and then jump on 'em. I think the op nailed some valid reasons to have hope---just a different way of looking at where we are. And there was a time when making the humble field goal could have changed the course of history.
Peddling hope without substance is what the Bills have been doing for more than a decade. I see the 2018 draft as underscoring how similar the current regime really is to previous ones.
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8 hours ago, dabills21 said:
Time will tell how this draft pans out. but one thing is for sure, you NEED a great qb to be the best in the NFL. Josh has as much upside as any of the top Qbs this year, and when you analyze how his skill set compares to others in the NFL, he has the potential to be as effective as Big Ben or Carson Wentz down the line.
He might not be the 'safest pick' of the draft, but NFL front offices understand the premium and how difficult it is to find franchise Qbs...it is the most difficult position to transition grom college to NFL.
All that said, if you think adding a defensive tackle is what it takes to put this franchise into super bowl contention, then you probably have bigger issues to sort out.
As for Edmunds, go check what Minnesota fans thunk of Anthony Barr. He and Trumaine are cut from the same cloth.
Just because a team NEEDS a great QB, doesn't mean that it can find one in the draft when it needs one ... and drafting a QB in the first round doesn't make him a better prospect, only a more expensive one. The Bills essentially paid a BMW price for a Hyundai Elantra. Allen has not demonstrated that he has the skill set to become even a modestly successful NFL QB much less either Roethlisberger and Wentz, both of whom dominated their collegiate conferences and became starters as rookies.
8 hours ago, NewDayBills said:You want a DT over a QB??? Really? We signed Lotulelei and we drafted a steal in Harrison Phillips. What QB could we of had at #96?
You would rather take an OT or a WR over a generational talent at LB? What QB will Wynn protect? Who will get Moore the ball?? Edmunds is the best LB in the draft and has the potential to be the best LB in the entire NFL.
That's simply bull ****.
8 hours ago, billsfan1959 said:Over time it will become obvious? Inherent in that statement is that it is not obvious at this moment. If it is not obvious at this moment, then how can you make declarations like "he is EJ 2.0" or "he can't play QB" as if they are fact. Seems all very self-contradictory and confusing.
Well, the last time I looked, it takes time, usually years, to determine if any draft pick is a keeper. Of course, we know from past experience that it's not possible for the Bills regime du jour to whiff on a draft pick, especially when drafting a first round QB to excite the Bills fanbase, and especially a few days after the draft.
7 hours ago, mannc said:I stopped reading at “disastrous”.
Just like the little kid who puts his hands over his ears because he doesn't want to hear a scolding ...
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It's a little early in the game to declare the Bills FO a winner yet ... sort of like getting excited because the Bills have kicked a FG on the game's opening drive.
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How dare someone in the media question the Bills for using 2 first, 2 second, and 2 third round picks to get a nice MLB and a project QB who is unlikely to be able to start as a rookie and is a longshot to become even a modest success.
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Beane & Company fell for the lure of a big QB with a big arm.
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3 hours ago, Yeezus said:
1. Draft a project QB in the 1st round
2. Doesn't bring in a coach to teach project QB. Our HC has no idea how to develop a QB, our OC doesn't exactly have much experience either, and our QB coach has been a WR coach for the past 10 years. Very concerning.
3. Draft heavy on defense (despite how much better defense was than offense). Whaley did move up for Watkins but he drafted mostly defensive players when Rex came, changed the system and drafted 3-4 players who are all gone now.
Pretty worrying so far. Our defense def had holes to fill, but I think some people tend to forget how many games they won us this season. I can maybe think of 1 or 2 games where the defense let us down. This offense right now is not an ideal place where a rookie QB can come and learn. We have the worst line in the league by a longshot. We have 1 extremely injury prone WR and an aging RB.
How dare you suggest that the Bills organization is doing essentially the same thing they've been doing for the last 20 years! That the Bills have replaced all the old bodies with new ones proves that. Success is foreordained because the Bills have just drafted their messiah.
//sarcasm off
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2 hours ago, Boatdrinks said:
Newsflash : Bills " make a profit " regardless of who they draft. The NFL isn't hockey. EJ Manuel comparisons are lame. That FO took a QB in a first round that was projected to produce none. That is a far far cry from drafting a player that was top ten on virtually all mocks/ boards. Remind me ,how many teams were calling others to trade up for EJ ? If you think McCarron is likely to be significantly worse than Tyrod, you have vastly overrated Taylor. He's mediocre, and this GM/ HC have clearly changed the team's direction away from settling for mediocrity. And from paying for it. AJM is here to be a placeholder vet, for less $ than his thoroughly average predecessor. He's gone because he guarantees you 7-9, 8-8, 9-7. They are aiming much higher , though that does carry risk of landing much lower. Fear of failure would only guarantee perpetual irrelevance that's plagued the Bills for too long. These guys don't have that, and I'm glad. Too many GMs here have ignored bold moves at QB in the name of not screwing it up. Your comparisons don't hold water.
In 3 or 4 years, we'll probably be about in the same place we were at this time in 2017, with a new HC and maybe a new GM. It has nothing to do with Buffalo GMs failing to make bold moves, especially when both Donahoe and Whaley made bold moves, and everything to do with the Bills organization's continuing lack of commitment to winning, but continue to tell yourself differently if it makes you feel better.
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11 hours ago, Awwufelloff said:
Next year we grab our top WR/RB in the first 3-4 rounds.
And the year after that it will be a new HC and maybe a new GM, and the Bills will return to Square One once again.
10 hours ago, The Red King said:Whose said I was optimistic? The plan for 2018 is to make the defense into a meat grinder that keeps us in the game while hoping our offense can score enough to win. At this point I'm expecting a mediocre to good offense. Remember, just 10 pts. would have gotten us a win vs. the Panthers and OT vs. the Jags. I think our D is better then last year and think our current O, warts and all, still can put up at least 10 on anyone.
The Bills used 5 picks in the first three rounds and got 1 very nice LB, but not the best LB on the board. They left him (Roquan Smith) there for the Bears to take and instead gambled on a project QB that they traded up to get. How does this translate into a "plan" to build "the defense into a meat grinder"?
10 hours ago, Figster said:A J McCarron is an upgrade over Tyrod Taylor in my humble opinion so I agree with you.
Granted McCarron still has to go out and prove me right...
IOW McCarron is an upgrade over Taylor because he's not Taylor ... just like Kolb was an upgrade over Fitzpatrick because he wasn't Fitzpatrick.
25 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:they can't help but be better. i can't wait to watch a.j. get us into a top 10( at least ) offense and
i can't wait to see a top5 defense ...no.2 in sacks, no.1 in turnovers.
i can't wait to see phillips and kyle side by side in the rotation!
i can't wait to edmunds decap gronk!
i can't wait for huges and trent frankenstein to terrorize qbs.
i can't wait to see. a.j. avg. 280 at least per game.
i can't wait to host a playoff game!
ROTFLMAO. Stoking your unbridled optimism is exactly what the Bills' plan is for 2018 ... and 2019 ... and 2020 ... and evermore...
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12 hours ago, The Red King said:
Three picks into the draft and I think Beane's plan for the Bills is coming into focus. It's obviously a multi-year project, but talk of this upcoming season being a sacrifice or a wash is about as accurate as last season being a tank job. The off-season and draft have helped reshape the roster, and the culture. Players who were seen as problematic or lazy are being shipped off and replaced with solid, hard workers. We passed on Rosen because he lacks the character that Buffalo is after. Last season the Bills overachieved with a "Us vs. the World" mentality, with each player being a cog in the machine. Beane and McD are looking for players with a matching mindset. Rosen whined about not being picked in the top #3, Phillips makes it sound like he's unworthy to breath the same air as a player like Williams. Character.
The plan for the future is rapidly shaping up as follows:
2018 - Same plan as 2017. The defense has been beefed up with FA pickups and draft picks. The idea being, defense keeps them in the game, offense scrapes out a win. AJ will lead the offense while Allen takes the time to learn and develop. We can only hope the offense and defense are better then last year's. I think they're going to surprise people and contend for a playoff spot, but I don't think they're going to be an elite team quite yet.
2019 - Endgame. With the defense far more secure, a vast amount of freed up FA money and Josh Allen ready to take the reigns...the Bills focus on offense, buying and drafting the tools to put around Allen so he can succeed. The defense will still be the Mean Machine from 2018, but the offense will be shaped for Allen. The team shifts from relying on that defense and hoping the offense can at least put up enough to win...and instead looks like a proper elite team which finally looks every bit as dangerous on the offensive side as it does on the defense.
...at least, that appears to be the plan. Time will tell if it works. I'm just excited we have a plan, rather then throwing darts at a dart board hoping something sticks. What's more impressive is how this plan seems to be keeping us at least competitive even when rebuilding from rubbish. We're going to be a better team this season then people expect. After all these years it is wonderfully refreshing watching a front office with an actual plan, successful or not.
Well, that's what the Bills want you to believe so you'll continue to fill the stadium, buy the merchandise, pressure state and local officials to give more concessions on any stadium issues, etc. The reality is that the "new" plan is essentially just the "old" plan in a shiny new wrapper with a different name. It's simply a reprise of 2013.
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1 hour ago, Doc said:
Yes but calling him to be benched for...whom? Unless there's a better option on the team, there won't be many calls to bench him.
Wasn't that the reason that the Bills traded Taylor? To clear the field for whatever rookie QB they drafted no matter how poorly he performed? AJ McCarron has started fewer than 10 games in his entire NFL career. Peterman's one start was a disaster, and he didn't redeem himself in his other appearances.
The Bills' actions in 2018 are eerily similar to what they did in 2013 to clear the field for EJ Manuel: replace a serviceable veteran QB, bring in a backup likely to be significantly worse than the former starter, and then draft a project first round QB to excite fans. I really thought after the events of last year that the Bills had actually changed their corporate culture to put the winning ahead of profit, but while the names and faces have changed, the "Bills way" apparently continues unabated.
That's what is depressing about the Allen pick: for all the talk about "process" and other bull ****, it's just the same old, same old for the Bills. I hope Allen is successful but I'm not optimistic about his future because first round project QBs simply don't do well in the NFL ... or about the Bills' prospects about becoming a regular playoff contender.
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Whistling past the graveyard ...
Is Kim qualified?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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What does it matter if Kim Pegula is "qualified" for the job of Bills president? How much worse a job can she do in leading the team than her predecessors over the last two decades?