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3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:
Because if we get the guys I stated we will be just fine.
If you think that signing Kirk Cousins and drafting a guard and 2 DTs is going to solve the Bills problems on both sides of the ball, you're delusional.
The Bills pretty much need an entirely new front 7 on defense unless they do something drastic like fire McDermott. As with the OL, the DLers and LBs who were at least serviceable in last couple of years are struggling. I doubt that the Bills FO wants to do start over so soon, but if McDermott's lost/loses the locker room, which is a real possibility, then they may have to.
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14 hours ago, Gugny said:
I agree. But I think "the process" is to go from the oldest team in the NFL to the youngest and let them develop together. That's my hope, anyway. Once Beane and McD were hired, I convinced myself that 2019 was the year for this team to be a contender. And I'm totally cool with that.
Contend for what? The overall #1 pick? The Bills haven't had one of those since 1985, so they're due.
11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:Getting rid of another all pro is pointless .
especially one that will be going to Canton one day. Shady is our team at this point. He catches the ball at a high rate and is obviously phenomenal running
creating more holes is pointless. Especially because shady has bought in to the process
It may be pointless but it looks to be the new "Bills way" which is apparently even stupider than the old "Bills way" of previous regimes. They'll probably trade him for a 4th or a 6th that could become a 5th. Watch Clay and Glenn go, too, for bargain basement prices. All the "Whaley's Mistakes" gotta go -- they make McDermott's scrubs look bad.
10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:Overall a fine post, but I do have some disagreements.
I don't think they have much of a chance to move up to #2. As it stands, the first two teams in the draft are likely to have extreme needs at QB. If we move up, it will likely be to grab the #3 or #4 QB. My guess is that they will have some of that extra draft capital left over even assuming they go QB in the first.
I think you're undervaluing Ducasse. Joe B has ranked him pretty decently in his play by play film analysis. Had him ranked as the best Bill on the field last week. I'm not thrilled with him but the need there isn't as bad as it is at RT and LB and CB.
I'm also not as down on Cordy Glenn as you are. He was on the field a lot early in his career. His injury has kept him off the field lately but it seems to be one injury that's taking a lot of time rather than that he's injury-prone by nature. I'm still very hopeful that he could be in our future plans which would leave Dawkins available to maybe fill a hole elsewhere if he proves capable of doing so.
Yeah, it'll all need time. And yeah there are a lot of weaknesses on this roster. But IMHO the draft will be better than you're predicting and being in the second year of our systems will help more than most people think.
Ducasse has failed everywhere else he's been, even as a backup OG. After 8 or 9 years in the league, he didn't "blossom". That he could possibly be rated as the best OLer on the field even for one game is an indictment of Castillo the OL coach and Dennison's zone blocking system. It doesn't fit the guys they've got, and the OL is too important to just throw away decent OLers because the OC/OL coach aren't bright enough to adapt to the players they have on the roster.
I totally agree about Cordy Glenn. Ankle/foot injuries are always problematic because both are complex structures that take a lot of stress, and usually take a long time to heal. Unfortunately, I think that Glenn's be sent packing because, well, there's a consensus among the personnel mavens on TBD, sports talk radio, and at sports bars that he IS accident prone ... and he's a hold over from the Whaley era ... and he makes a lot of money that he's not earning because he's hurt "all the time".
54 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:This year won't get better but we will get a lot of the guys we need next year. They wanted to win this year but they had to get rid of guys who didn't buy in or fit. We did well with the "talent" we have but once the league figured us out we just don't have the horses to do it.
How, exactly, do you figure it's possible to get "a lot of the guys we need next year"? I believe that the bust rate for players taken in the first three rounds of the draft is about 50%. The success rate for players taken in rounds 4-7 is maybe 20 percent, and a lot of that "success" will be as STers and backups. Furthermore, there's no guarantee that players that fill the Bills needs will be available when they draft ... of course, at the rate the Bills are making holes in their roster, just about any position will fill a need by the draft. Oh, and that's assuming the Bills don't send a truckload of draft picks to take a shot at a top five QB.
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1 hour ago, JohnC said:
The majority of people believed that the Bills were on the precipice of success. That tracks the same foolhardy over-assessment of the roster that Whaley had. Every year he would make moves, sometimes gratuitously giving up picks, to get this bedraggled team over the hump. The reality was that the hump was of a mountainous size. What people fail to recognize was that the wrestling coach was not hired to add on to Whaley's roster, he was brought in to demolish it and start from scratch. Not only was the roster being demolished but so was the organization that the former GM put together. Every single scout on his staff was let go. What does that tell you about the confidence that the owner had in DW's handiwork?
The Bills are involved in a major rebuild. This is not a quick fix. I see a three to four year project. I understand why people are so frustrated. But those people who believed that this was a serious team before the season began were deluding themselves. Understandably their fires got stoked with a good start. It was essentially a sugar high. The reality is that McDermott aggressively stripped down this team and accumulated picks. He didn't do it because he thought the team was close to being successful. He did it because he made a judicious assessment of the roster and knew he had to do a major demolition before he could start the construction.
What a crock! The Bills have been "involved in a major rebuild" for 17 years, and are further from achieving any kind of success today than they were January 1, 2017 thanks to McDermott, Beane, and the Bills FO.
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54 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:
And I thought I was jaded
I'm 67 years old and have been a Bills fan since 1963 ... what do you expect?
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30 minutes ago, Air it out Fitzy said:
Alright boys the chosen one is back under center and we can still reach 7 wins because Bills
bet time
over 130 yards passing and Bills win
under 130 yards and Bills lose.
Just remember, if you pick wrong you can't say anything bad about the qb if you pick wrong
This is the kind of BS that causes observers and black players to raise accusations of racism. It uses the same phrase ("the chosen one") used repeatedly by race-baiting bigots against Obama. Of course, we all know you don't hate Taylor because he's black, you just hate him because he's not Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, right?
20 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
I'm wishing for the losses because I was and am pro-tank to get an ACTUAL QB.It's nothing personal. The guy just isn't good.
Bigotry is never personal.
9 minutes ago, Bill_with_it said:Why werent you wishing for a loss under peterman?
He was "okay" with a loss under Peterman but he "wants" losses under Taylor. I think that speaks for itself.
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6 hours ago, SydneyBillsFan said:
What is a Browns fan supposed to think?
It could always be worse.
At least the Browns are competitive. You can't say that about the Bills in the last three games ... and likely not into the future, either.
17 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:The Browns at least are going for the #1 pick this draft. The Bills will remain in 7-9 to 9-7 hell yet again.
What good would the #1 pick do the Bills? They would probably draft a DB or RB or trade back to the middle of first round for a couple of thirds and a sixth that could become a fifth.
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33 minutes ago, Forward Progress said:
Very different scenario. Prescott went in because of an injury to Romo and played very well over several games before there was a choice to be made between Romo and Prescott.
I do agree that playing quarterback behind the best O-line in football gives any QB a huge advantage over our mess of an O-line.
Don't confuse True Believers with FACTS! If they believe the situations with Prescott and Peterman were the same, then they were the same.
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10 hours ago, KD in CA said:
I'll explain it to you.
It's not 'Tyrod hate'. It's that fans are sick and tired of a team that for 20 years has failed to have an intelligent plan for the QB position; instead fluctuating between trying to get by on the cheap and when that fails and they are out of options, making desperate and stupid draft moves.
They wasted four years with Fitz, while eschewing guys like Wilson and Cousins, because of the same thinking we see on display about Taylor: "if he just gets a little better" or "if we just had XYZ around him", or "we were so close last year" instead of admitting that those guys, while not terrible QBs, are never going to be better than just ok, which is not good enough in the NFL.
So just like they refused to draft a QB until Fitz had completely gone bust; post-EJ they went back to the 'get by cheap' plan and ignored QB in the draft, except for a couple token late round long shots. Three years later there is still no apparent future QB on the team and people are clinging to Taylor.
If you told me the Bills were going to draft a top-3 QB next year and keep Taylor until the rookie was ready, I guess I'd be ok with it. But frankly, Taylor doesn't seem like the 'mentor a young QB' kind of guy. He's not a student of the game, he relies on instinct rather than a deep understanding of NFL defenses and how to beat them. And you'd have the same sub-set of the fan base screaming that Taylor should be the guy and a QB controversy is a bad idea.
So, why aren't you frustrated cretins taking out your frustrations on the culprits responsible for the 20 years of failure instead of blindly defending them as if they can do no wrong?
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13 hours ago, MURPHD6 said:
I never said that Peterman should be written off, nor did Dom. And the point is not that Taylor deserves more time to develop: its that he has clearly developed into an average QB and thus deserves the respect from the coaching staff that the rest of the average QB's in the NFL get, which are plays drawn up to accentuate his strengths. The entire team deserves to be put into the best possible position to succeed, for that matter, including Peterman. Dude wasn't announced as the starter until Tuesday, so he didn't even have a full week to prepare for hist 1st NFL start. And the idea that a rookie should be developed when an average starter is already on the roster and the team is in playoff contention is what rubs most people the wrong way about this whole deal.
POINT. SET. MATCH. You absolutely nailed it ... as did the original article.
As for Peterman, it seems to me that he was set up to fail, too. In addition to the limited prep time he had, the game plan he was asked to execute simply wasn't what a sensible HC/OC would provide for a rookie making his first start. Instead of a simplified plan emphasizing lots of running, max protections, and limited, safe passes to protect the rookie as much as they could, they had Peterman slinging it behind an OL that has been and is playing poorly ... against Joey Bosa and Company ... way too much. Are they that stupid or did they have another agenda?
I am not a conspiracy theory believer by nature. In fact, I tend to be just the opposite. However, the Bills have made so many bizarre moves since they put the McDermott-Beane regime in place, that I'm convinced that winning football games -- now, in the immediate future, or ten years down the road -- is simply not on their agenda. I don't know what their agenda is but obviously it's not winning.
I have no doubt that the Bills -- FO and coaching staff -- have done their best to sabotage Taylor, and I think that throwing Peterman to the wolves in LA on Sunday was part and parcel of it. They wanted him to throw downfield more than any first time starter should be asked to throw in order to "prove" that the Bills conservative offense in previous games was all Taylor's fault. It blew up in their faces, and I'm glad of that ... but I'm sorry that Nate Peterman, Tyrod Taylor, and all the rest of the Bills players suffered such humiliation because of the asshats in charge. I am also beyond angry that the Bills organization has shown such disdain for Bills fans and their loyalty over the years as to not even TRY to win games in a year when making the playoffs in the AFC with a 9-7 record is entirely possible ... and with the Bills even holding some tie-breakers.
And for you cretins who want to B word that the rest of the Bills players ought to have played better, understand that most of them simply can't. They don't have the talent. Most of the younger talented Bills players from the last couple of years -- "Whaley's mistakes" as you cretins call them -- are scattered around the league playing on playoff bound teams. The Bills in their infinite wisdom gleaned from seventeen, soon to be eighteen, straight years of avoiding the playoffs, replaced them with scrubs and rookies.
It's not reprehensible for a football player to lack talent. It's the way it is. It is reprehensible, however, for a football team to not even try to win a game when they are seeded for a playoff slot.
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4 hours ago, Best Player Available said:
There has to be a workable solution for you.
How about disregarding the Bills regular season but then going too the Bills playoff games?
Assuming that the Bills make the playoffs any time before 2030 might be a tad optimistic given the brilliance of the current coaching regime and the team's play on the field.
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36 minutes ago, JoeF said:
Did you consider that there's a downside to a regime that shows prospective free agents in the league that they will toss aside a vet who gives them a better chance to win? This happens all the time with teams that are supposedly future focused -- but its a loser mentality that may turn off vet players this team wants to attract this coming offseason.
There will be competition for any vet player. McD picking a rook who clearly isn't ready to start over a respected vet while the team is still mathematically in the playoff race may make a difference in some free agents decision about where to play in the future. Stuff like this matters.
What it says to players is that McDermott and the Bills are NOT committed to winning, and NFL players want to win, and win now, not 3-5 years down the road ... maybe. The average NFL career is only about 3 years, and any player could suffer a career ending injury on any play. The only FAs interested in playing for bottom feeders are players with very limited options because of lack of talent or age ... ie, scrubs ... or guys just looking for pay days.
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11 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:
The difference between Buffalo and NE is they got lucky in the 6th round and won a lottery ticket QB
That's it.
They can do anything they want because Brady just wins. So they are geniuses and so organized and model organization.
This is a ridiculous thread. I worry that the Pegulas will get discouraged and pull the plug. Then we can kiss the Bills goodbye, pretty much guaranteed.
More continued beat downs like the last three weeks and there will be many fewer Bills fans who care if that happens ...
11 hours ago, zow2 said:Funny, i wrote on twitter yesterday (to harrington) that my prediction was Pegula would have the Sabres for sale within a year. He kind of shot that down and said he will not sell. But my point regarding the Sabres is that he has tried everything with that club and it just turns to crap. Terry is a good guy, he's done an amazing job building up Canalside. I personally don't think he needs the aggravation of the Sabres. They are hemorrhaging fans, the games don't sell out anymore and they are terribly dull. I do think he will remain the owner of the Bills and concentrate on them. But jeez, the Sabres have to be giving him serious high blood pressure and ulcers. Who needs that?
Do you really think that the Bills aren't going to start "hemorrhaging fans", too, if the current team continues to play as badly for the rest of the season as it has for the last weeks and McDermott and Beane come back next year?
11 hours ago, Shotgunner said:Silly maybe...
But has been a decision maker for a team during the worst stretch of futility in our history. He is a marketer and has probably succeeded at that, but in the world of football ops he has been terrible by every metric. We keep being told he has no influence until it is proven he did, and he keeps getting promoted. Has been a (very bad) GM, has made (very bad) personnel decisions as well as having major influence on all GM and HC hires for more than a decade.
I would argue it's silly to go to bat for someone who has been terrible for that many years.
Curse or not, the fact that he still works here, especially in a high position, is absolutely rediculous.
Psychologists? Lol Displacement maybe if he had no fault. He is directly responsible for many problems, and involved in many others.
Well said.
Be prepared to get dissed by the True Believers who swear that Russ Brandon has no say in the football operations, though.
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Why is the Bills OL so bad this season? This was a good run blocking line the previous three years, and it was adequate at pass blocking. In fact, it was generally thought that LG John Miller, drafted in 2015, was a promising starter who would solidify the line of Glenn, Incognito, Wood, Miller with second round OT Dion Dawkins switching over to take the RT spot. When Glenn can go, Dawkins does, indeed, move over to RT.
While it's true that Cordy Glenn has been out a lot this season (contrary to claims by some posters on TBD, he hasn't missed significant time previously), the real problem here is that at least some of the Bills OLers don't seem to fit the blocking scheme that they've been forced into. This has been an issue since TC. That veteran OLers like Incognito and Wood are STILL having trouble with the scheme suggests that it simply doesn't fit what most of them do well. It certainly has been a disaster for Miller since he's been supplanted by Vlad Ducasse, an OG who has failed on every single team he's been on.
A competent coaching staff would be smart enough to understand that the OL is the foundation of the offense, and would adapt the blocking scheme to fit their personnel when they come into a situation with a decent OL, not try to remake it into something it's not for no valid reason other than this is what the coaches want. Of course, a competent coaching staff would also understand that having at least one WR capable of stretching the field has to be an essential part of modern day offenses simply because modern defenses are so much more sophisticated than they were twenty or thirty years ago. Then again, a competent coaching staff would not only make sure that a rookie QB making his first NFL start was properly prepared, they would draw up a game plan designed to protect him as much as possible by featuring lots of running plays, max protections, and as safe as passing plays as possible.
Riddle me this, McDermott supporters, why the hell wasn't Peterman protected by a simplified, limited game plan? Your hero screwed that kid by throwing him to the wolves in the persons of Joey Bosa and Company with a game plan that he couldn't have success with even if the Bills had better talent and had played better.
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5 hours ago, theRalph said:
Drought psychosis is reigning supreme. Everywhere. Except at One Bills Drive.
Yes, it was a disaster. But shut down your emotions for a moment and consider the facts:
1. Peterman went 3-3 before the first INT. Who among us, after the throw to Benjamin, did not shout “that’s the throw we’ve been looking for!!!”
2. Pat DiMarco should have his beard plucked out whisker by whisker for playing beach volleyball with a throw right on his hands. That 1st INT wrecked the day.
3. We didn’t expect it, but Peterman’s start revealed stark weaknesses on the offensive line. On 2 of the interceptions, he had pass rushers in his grill. And it certainly wasn’t because he was holding out of the ball too long.
4. So 3 of the 5 INTs weren’t exactly Peterman’s fault. The other two were his fault. Dak Prescott also had two very similar INTs 2 hours later, at home, vs. the Eagles.
For as much as fans go on and on about the drought, they really don’t give credence to the fact that the drought has tremendous negative energy. This may sound crazy but I believe Peterman’s start actually put a dent in that energy and that energy bit back.
When you arrive at this understanding, you will understand that it will be much more difficult for the bills to break the drought that it will for them to go on a run in the playoffs.
Peterman starts in Kansas City, Mark my words.
The OP is absolutely right about "drought psychosis" reigning supreme, especially in his own mind.
I don't doubt that Peterman likely starts on Sunday ... just like I don't doubt that the Chiefs could very well ring up 60+ on the Bills if he does.
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14 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
^^^
7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:Good.
I hope the national media keeps ripping us for this move.
Somebody brought the idea up last week before the Chargers game, but with the likelihood, from McDermott's statements, that Peterman will get the start against the Chiefs, one has to wonder if the Bills changed QBs simply to take fan attention away from the Dareus trade and the defensive collapse that followed. Last week, the way the Bills D played against the Jests and Saints was hardly mentioned in the media. Even after the awful loss to the Chargers, fan attention is still more focused on the QB question than on the defense.
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On 11/20/2017 at 3:30 PM, Gugny said:
He was a beast for the Bills. Too bad fans let their dislike of the person cloud their judgment of the player.
Oh, I don't think that fans disliked Dareus until he signed his new contract, and the media started harping on it last year when the entire D sucked. He was a convenient scapegoat, and then McDermott and Beane piled on, probably on the orders of the suits in the second floor at OBD who decided to get rid of the obligation ASAP, fueling fans' animosity towards him.
On 11/20/2017 at 3:38 PM, Utah John said:The player the Jags have looks like the player the Bills had, but he's not really the same guy. The guy who was here was lazy, pampered, self-entitled, and arrogant. The guy the Jags have is motivated, just like he was when he was here in his contract year.
Dareus has all the talent in the world. He might turn out to be HOF player in time. He wasn't going to get any better while he was here. And the guy we traded wasn't the player who was in his contract year, trying to impress. He's the fat dumb and happy guy who had his millions and thought the struggle was over.
Says who? Sean McDermott? Brandon Beane? Russ Brandon? Message board posters? The only things you know about him are what you read or hear in the media and MBs like this one; you don't know him personally.
The Bills have been trying to get rid of Dareus since last spring but teams wouldn't take on his contract because they figured that if they couldn't trade him, the Bills would cut him ... until Jacksonville decided to act because, unlike the Bills, the Jags organization isn't stupid enough and arrogant enough to pass on an opportunity to make the playoffs even if the best they can do at QB is their bust of a supposed franchise QB ... and I'd trust Tom Coughlin's and Doug Marrone's evaluation of Dareus far more than I'd trust McDermott's or Beane's.
On 11/20/2017 at 4:28 PM, Peter said:If "buying into the process" (however one wishes to interpret that) is the deciding factor in whether the Bills get rid of a player, the Bills may have to release most of the team after this past week.
The Jests put 37 on the Bills, the Saints 46, and the Chargers 54. If this arithmetic progression holds true, then KC's gonna ring up 61.
6 hours ago, Logic said:Haven't read all the way through this thread, but...
Everyone agrees Dareus was valuable in terms of stopping the run.
That doesn't change the fact that he is a one-dimensional player getting about 30--40% of the snaps per week, and it was unwise and unsustainable for the Bills to continue to pay his bloated contracted for those contributions, ESPECIALLY considering that he is one run-in with the law away from a long suspension and doesn't have a work ethic.^^^
6 hours ago, CuddyDark said:That's ridiculous. He played a 1 gap penetrator for Jim Schwartz. Marcell is whatever you need him to be.
Well said, sir.
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21 hours ago, McBean said:
That's why you give Beane and McDermott 5 years minimum.
Turnover the past decade hasn't helped matters either.
Why should they be rewarded for !@#$ing up and turning a modestly talented team in a virtual expansion franchise? The Bills had some young talent to build on, so it wouldn't have taken them five years to add enough pieces to make the playoffs and then shoot higher. Now, it will take two or three years just to replace the talent these two asshats jettisoned ... and that's assuming the Bills would have somebody better than McDermott and Beane because the player evaluation skills they've demonstrated so far suck ... and seem to lean heavily on Carolina rejects.
19 hours ago, JM2009 said:Fan base doesn't. And they shouldn't have to.
The Bills fans have been remarkably patient with the Bills as they've continued to support the team despite the Bills only posting 2 winning seasons in the last 17 years, but they may be reaching the end of the road. If the team continues to play as poorly as it has the last three weeks and heads don't roll, only drafting a QB in the Top Five may bring the fans back in 2018.
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7 hours ago, jrober38 said:
Only a fraction of the Bills' revenue comes from ticket sales.
Assuming a QB will put more people in the stands, when they already sell out most games, is a poor assumption.
Two points. IIRC, the Bills get virtually all of the profits from parking and concessions which are totally dependent upon actual game attendance.
The second point, barring some kind of drastic measures or a miracle, the chances of this team playing competitve football much less actually winning any more games, seem dim at best. Season ticket sales were down this season. They could plummet next season if the Bills don't do something to give fans hope that things will be better. Drafting sensibly ain't gonna do it, especially if McDermott and Beane remain. Making a "bold move" to trade up in the draft to grab a big name QB could, and it's entirely plausible if you consider the haphazard way the Bills have managed personnel issues on the team for at least a decade.
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9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:
we should pin this post and see where are in 2019. Yes, that is the approach we have taken as opposed to the last 17 years of cobble together some talent and lets see where we end up.
The only thing McBeane did wrong is win some fluky games this year, and not play the Pats until late in the season. Had the Bills started out 3-6 with a thorough trouncing by the Pats in the books, none of this false optimism would have gotten him in the place where people now want to fire him. We would all be about next year, screaming to give the kid QB more reps, etc.
I think the only mistake the tandem has made is getting sucked in by the fluky wins just as the fans did, and trading for Benjamin and if they let that affect their decision on the starting QB the rest of the year.
Feel to free to save it on your own if you're so confident that your hero is going to be successful. I own my mistakes. Do you?
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14 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
Having Drew Brees and Matt Ryan helps. It's all about the quarterback. If trading Watkins gives us the ammunition to draft our next Jim Kelly then it was a good move and it will define whether McDermott/Beane succeed here. As far as RB's go, you could have a dominant back take the bulk of the carries (see Todd Gurley and Le'veon Bell) or take a running backs by committee approach (Falcons, Pats, Saints).
LOL. The constant excuse of Bills fans for the last seventeen years ... since sainted Ralph ran Wade Phillips out of town. Wade's QBs were Rob Johnson and Doug Flutie, neither one a HOFer. Andy Reid made Mike Vick into a reasonable facsimile of a good NFL QB for a while, and he resurrected Alex Smith at the end of his career. Mike Zimmer in Minnesota has had three different QBs in his four seasons as HC there and is leading the NFCN with an 8-2 record and Case Keenum as his QB.
Then there's Doug Marrone. He got the Bills to a 9-7 record in 2014, 1 of only 2 winning seasons the team's recorded since Wade left, with Kyle Orton as his QB. Now he's got his Jags poised to take the AFCS with Brian Bortles as his QB.
Keep whining about not have a QB ... while you think about how drafting Andrew Luck didn't bring sunshine and rainbows and playoff wins to Indy fans.
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1 hour ago, Billsmisery said:
Hind site is always 20/20 fella.
Just because you swallowed the McDermott-Beane sales pitch whole doesn't mean that all Bills did. There were a significant number of fans who were skeptical about the manure being spread back in August, especially after the Watkins trade. I don't know if the OP was among them, but those of us who were got shouted down by all the true believers who jumped on the McDermott/Beane bandwagon.
For myself, I compared McDermott to Dick Jauron, although I thought he might be somewhat better because I thought he at least wasn't a play to not lose by too much coach. I was wrong. He's worse because he apparently doesn't care how much his team loses by as long as he loses his way.
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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:
I know what happened. but he did fit the scheme. They started trying to sign him to an extension in February. They didn’t think anyone would pay that much for him and give up a 5th in a bad RB market. They were wrong. They didnt think he was worth the deal NE gave him as a a backup RB, to match it. Nothing to do with scheme. The issue was moreso with how they replaced him. And in hindsight they should have tendered a 2nd instead of a 5th.
The Bills NEVER think the right players are worth paying for but they'll go chasing after big names if they think it will put butts in the seats which was why they signed Terrell Owens and Mario Williams but traded away Jason Peters after a contract dispute and let both Chris Hogan and Robert Woods as well as horde of DBs past and present walk away.
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3 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
I can’t follow the language here. I have very little idea what you’re even talking about.
The OP is referencing the Rams-Vikings game on Sunday. Robert Woods injured his shoulder in that game. Jared Goff's favorite WR, Cooper Kupp, caught a pass but fumbled on the 1 going into the EZ. Sammy Watkins again wasn't targeted much. IOW, the Vikes defense effectively shut down the Rams high flying passing offense. Unlike the Bills game, it was a good football game ... I watched it.
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56 minutes ago, Bangarang said:
Plenty of time for us to spend the next few years signing and drafting guys for this regime’s schemes only to hire new coaches that will want to run something entirely different.
This. Hamsters on a wheel: rolling along but never going anywhere.
42 minutes ago, BuffaloMatt said:Look at the Eagles. Where were they three years ago? Hmmmmm. . . . . Bill are in year 1 of new regime. I for one will trust the process.
YOU look at the Eagles. Three years ago they finished 10-6 and just missed the playoffs. In 2013 they won the NFCE. Since 2000, the Eagles have had 12 winning seasons and made the playoffs 10 times. When they realized that Chip Kelly was a mistake, they fired his arse rather than give him more time to screw up their team.
40 minutes ago, yungmack said:If you were an elite FA (and why would the Bills want anything but elite?), would you sign with this mess?
If you were a journeyman FA, would you sign with this mess if you had any other alternative?
39 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:We are fresh out of "Whaley mistakes". The last one was shipped to Jacksonville.
20 minutes ago, Mrbojanglezs said:This thread could have been any one of the last 15 years. We are always 2-3 years away....
NOTE to OP: save your post so that you have a template for future use with the next regimes ...
6 minutes ago, jrober38 said:The Bills roster is a mess.
We have one impact player on the whole roster in Lesean McCoy and I'm not joking when I say our second best player is our kicker.Aside from that, we're below average across the depth chart.
QB - below average
RB - no depth
WR - no elite talent
TE - no elite talent
OL - below average
DL - below average
LB - below average
CB - below average
S - below average
The Bills are lucky they have so many draft picks because they seriously need to find some impact players.
It's now a roster worthy of an expansion team.
2 minutes ago, jrober38 said:I don't think they can. To move from the 15-20 range into the top 5 would cost an astronomical number of draft picks.
Yeah but look at it from a business model POV. Which is more likely to generate more revenue? A QB drafted in the Top 5 or a DT, MLB, and C?
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That presupposes McDermott and Beane have a plan, and that plan is a viable and logical blueprint for moving forward. Neither McDermott nor Beane have demonstrated that their plan consists of anything beyond gutting the team of talent and stocking up on draft picks and scrub FAs ... and making sure that Taylor had virtually no chance at success. McDermott's draft was nothing special, simply drafting to fill holes created by letting starters walk away in FA. If they were going to sabotage Taylor, the least they could have done was found a more talented QB than Peterman to replace him.
Oh, so because you need to have your chimney repointed, a new roof put on', and the dry-rotted front porch replaced, you should tear down your house and rebuild it from scratch?