ChiGoose

Yes, it seems that their gambit that their supporters are very gullible and will believe just about anything appears to be correct.

This is some of the worst of both-sides-ism. Just straight nihilism. Sure. And every time the “investigation” says they found something that ties Joe Biden to any of this, it turns out that they were lying. So I guess I’m not gonna hold my breath here.

Since when is loaning money to a sibling a crime?

Oh boy. I hope you don’t think the GOP is looking to do an actual investigation.

The big “gotcha” here is that Biden lent his brother money when Biden was not in office or a candidate for office and then his brother paid him back. If that’s the smoking gun, then they should just pack up shop, go home, and stop embarrassing themselves.

Question for the people who actually believe this stuff: Do you ever look into the claims themselves or just believe whatever feels good because looking into them might show them to be false or misleading? FYI: this is a loan repayment. Biden loaned his brother money, and then his brother paid it back.

Unlikely. Because of how gerrymandered House districts are, most members face fairly easy general elections but are more at risk of getting primaried. Since primary voters are generally more to the extreme, that means that doing anything that may be seen as centrist or even cooperating across the aisle is far more likely to hurt a Representative than help them. The current system incentivizes the behavior we are witnessing.

https://x.com/olivia_beavers/status/1715428371918643362?s=46&t=Jf_5fQharG6pLsB8ACvvjQ “Tally: 86 yay 112 nay 5 present” Seems like there are a ton of cowards in the House GOP caucus who vote differently when it’s a public vote vs secret ballot.

Enough Republicans sit out and they may accidentally elect Jeffries

Anyone who is tired of the two party system needs to push for anti-FPTP reforms. People like West who think this quixotic campaign is a good idea actually live in a fantasy world fed by their own ego.

No. Wouldn’t make sense for them to do that.

For those of you reading at home, I’ve already pointed out the reasoning behind this in the thread that is actually on topic for the BS that’s being pulled here.

I honestly don’t understand why conservatives are so insistent on completely missing the point. But I guess if they weren’t, they might not be conservatives anymore.

That’s a pretty banal way of explaining fraudulently inducing people to cross state lines for political gain.

Everybody has to have an instant take on everything instantly all of the time. You can’t wait for more info, display uncertainty, or be in a grey area. Our modern social media / news culture seems to require boiling everything down to black and white, us vs them, leaving no room for nuance.

Here’s my super controversial opinion: Don’t hit cops. If you hit cops, you should probably face consequences. Also, we’ve seen people saying nobody’s been arrested and we’ve seen people actually being arrested, so I think we should avoid rolling out the Jump to Conclusions Mat until we have a bit more clarity.

Of course not. I just think it should be obvious that entering a building legally and staging a protest is different than breaking into a building and ransacking it.

Context matters: https://x.com/ryanjreilly/status/1714740713546457258?s=20 https://x.com/ryanjreilly/status/1714741143282311562?s=20 https://x.com/ryanjreilly/status/1714742404048097788?s=20 Text since Twitter embedding is hit-or-miss: "A lot of disinformation out there about the protest at the Capitol, but the U.S. Capitol Police tell NBC News that to the best of their knowledge all protesters went through security, entering the proper way, through mag screening. Capitol office buildings are open to the public." "Unlike on Jan. 6, when Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol and bypassed broken windows and blaring alarms, hundreds of these protesters are being arrested on the spot, as anyone who protests in the Capitol should expect to happen." "Some good info here. These are people who are choosing to be arrested inside a Capitol office building to make a point. They did not break open fire doors or overrun security booths."

Cornel West draws max donation from GOP megadonor Harlan Crow "Progressive activist and independent presidential candidate Cornel West received a maximum campaign donation from Republican megadonor Harlan Crow, West's latest fundraising report shows. Crow made the $3,300 donation in August, weeks before West abandoned his bid for the Green Party nomination to run as an independent. Crow has called West, a self-proclaimed “non-Marxist socialist” and longtime professor at Princeton University, “a good friend.” West has defended his campaign from questions about whether it would draw support from President Joe Biden, calling the two-party system an “impediment for the flower of American democracy” during an interview with NBC News' "Meet the Press Now."" *** This is classic ratf****ing and is yet another example of why independent candidacies in a two party system are just grifts and/or vanity projects that will ultimately hurt their supporters through the spoiler effect. Anyone tired of the same old, same old needs to push for real election reforms that eliminate First Past the Post elections and actually allow for third parties to succeed without allowing candidates to be elected by pluralities or falling victim to the spoiler effect.

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Currently 13 GOP votes against Jordan

Looks like he's losing some votes he had in the first vote.

Fun fact: Jim Jordan has never had a bill of his passed in his 16 years in Congress

This is not true. Majority of Americans Say Trump Charges Have Merit, but His G.O.P. Grip Grows "A majority of Americans, in four recent polls, said Mr. Trump’s criminal cases were warranted. Most were surveyed before a grand jury in Georgia indicted him over his attempts to subvert the 2020 election, but after the federal indictment related to Jan. 6." From the polls: In the Quinnipiac poll, 54 percent of registered voters said Mr. Trump should be prosecuted for trying to overturn the 2020 election. And seven out of 10 voters said that anyone convicted of a felony should no longer be eligible to be president. Half of Americans, but only 20 percent of Republicans, said that Mr. Trump should suspend his presidential campaign, according to the ABC News/Ipsos poll. When specifically asked by ABC about the Georgia case, 63 percent said the latest criminal charges against Mr. Trump were “serious.” About half of Americans said that Mr. Trump’s interference in the election in Georgia was illegal, according to the AP/NORC poll. When asked by Fox News whether Mr. Trump had engaged in illegal activity to overturn the 2020 election, 53 percent of registered voters said yes. A plurality of those surveyed by ABC (49 percent) believed that Mr. Trump should be charged with a crime in Georgia. Fifty-three percent of U.S. adults said that they approved of the Justice Department’s decision to bring charges against Mr. Trump for his attempts to reverse his electoral defeat in 2020, The A.P. found.

So weird how these people never complain about the atrocities committed by Christians…