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3 minutes ago, Tuco said:
Aww shucks.
It's likely really a 2-3 year deal that will stick us with a good amount of dead cap in '25 or so. But everybody knows that.
I would expect to see a modest but guaranteed first year salary, and of course a signing bonus prorated for 5 years. Year 2 will be more costly but still not as bad as it will initially seem. The reason it's 6 years is so they can include more fully guaranteed money at signing but spread it out a little further. Expect year 2 to have a nice large guaranteed option bonus that will show a large cap hit in 2023, but will be converted into signing bonus at the start of '23 and can then be prorated over years 2-6 of the deal. Year 2 will also likely include a trigger of some sort that will guarantee at least some of the '24 salary. As will year 3 and maybe even 4. Or possibly a sizeable roster bonus instead. Either one will force the Bills to make a decision early on an aging vet with a monster contract starting in 2024.
you're the man with the answers to cap questions mate, Own it 🙂 great to read you here.
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1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
It's actually simple. Bonus money can be spread out over the length of the contract. Base salary can't. Base salary can be converted into bonus money and spread out.
So you can keep doing it but there's a risk. Once the player you keep kicking cap down the road for starts to decline you start to get into trouble. I mean the Saints cleared like $80 million in cap without cutting anyone. Owners don't like giving out all that bonus money.
it's all the converting and moving around that confounds me mate . Math is not my jam but I fully respect folks that have that aptitude. kudos Thank you for the insight. 🙂
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2 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
I’m kind of bittersweet we didn’t trade for him last year now…we saved some picks but Im pretty sure we would’ve won it all last year with von on board
I hope lamenting last years season will become a distant and dare say a forgotten memory after we finally achieve the Lombardi This seson. It's my fervent hope anyway 🙂
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5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:
It's the same contract as Chandler Jones but with cap pushed back. So 2 years from now there will be a high cap hit but there ways to work around it. Josh Allen has huge base salaries. The easiest way to clear cap in 2024 and 2025 will be to convert those base salaries to bonus cash. Plus the TV money will boost the cap a lot.
In other words don't worry about the cap numbers.
granted the cap is a complicated formula that very few can truly explain. One of those is a poster named @Tuco I hope he chimes in.
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1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:
I think the pass rush was pretty underrated last season too so they could be absolute animals this year.
I would think adding a guy like Von Miller into the mix will serve to make the entire DL more productive and better. Its exciting to ponder the possibilities moving forward that is for sure! I frankly don't care who eats as long as someone on that line does ya know?
GO BILLS!~!~!!!
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2 hours ago, Charles Romes said:
Total steal!! He’s a freak in hiding under Brady who can’t see past Gronk.
the 2 TE sets will be a thing to behold. I love this signing!~!~!!!
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the other guy who just be working overtime lately is Overdorf. HE is integral to how these deals get structured and made work from what I gather.
@Tuco what say you mate? any insights would be greatly appreciated. Thanks man. m
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52 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:
Did ya watch the super bowl?
I just posted this exact line. Great minds again lol sorry for the duplicate but Im guessing the answer to that would be a No
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50 minutes ago, RichRiderBills said:
Not sure he is elite anymore.
did you see the last super bowl?
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47 minutes ago, babulator said:
This was the splash signing that Pegs wanted to celebrate his new stadium deal.
this along with signing OJ Howard HOLY COW Ive got goosebumps
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OOF. He gets the same bank and says put. I guess I can understand it but I think its kind a skeezy look on his part. A mans word is no longer his bond clearly.
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Wise men say
Only fools rush in
But I can't help falling in love with you -
And you'll kiss me like I'm everything
Something in me comes undone
And I'll wake up in the morning
Knowing once again you've gone
God knows I love you
I'll let these things be
But I don't know if I like you
When you do these things to me -
Time can never mend
The careless whispers of a good friend
To the heart and mind
Ignorance is kind
There's no comfort in the truth
Pain is all you'll find -
Welcome to Buffalo Mr McKissic..... we wish you much success in hopes you can help we Bills fans to finally experience an NFL Championship !~!
#billsmafia
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4 hours ago, Don Otreply said:
This right here ^^^
The game is won and lost in the trenches, wether anyone likes it or not, all offensive and defensive play calls success stems from the lines.
Go Bills!!!
we are at a point wherein our team has its key integral Franchise QB in place, we have playmakers on offense and a stout secondary. I agree with you, fortify and dominate in the trenches moving forward will put this team over the Top. IMO Beanes' last years acquisitions shored up the defensive line while seemingly not addressing the OL to the extent fans wanted (my perception anyway) . I think Beane is playing this according to plan and as always he will make choices based on need AND availibility. His record is pretty danged good with a miss in Cody Ford oh well. I'm looking forward to TC to see all our new presents haha
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47 minutes ago, Virgil said:
I don't know that I can agree with this take. We are hearing that players are reaching out to us and might take less money, but nothing has really happened yet. As of now, we've plugged holes from departing players or re-signed out own. You could argue that Saffold is an upgrade, but I wouldn't use that to qualify it as a successful day.
We honestly don't have the money to know if we would have drawn more attention from big name FA's.
I'm still surprised we haven't re-worked Digg's deal to free up some money. Right now, even if we wanted to bring back Wallace, grab a WR, or Chandler, we couldn't.
winners discount Virgil, is that reality? Im asking because in theory it sounds plausible but in my mind I thought players will go for the payday (all things being equal) any NFL player taking a discount has to be an anomaly imo
*shrugs* JJ Watt one example that screams out to me.
I can see a player wanting to play for a contender Yes but to take less money when your career is nowhere near guaranteed.......This contract stuff is numbers mumbo jumbo to me...I guess a player would at the minimum negotiate and his agent make His money by making the best deal for his client possible.........I dont begin to understand players rationales clearly
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trenches Trenches TRENCHES people...... Fortify, improve, excel. BOOM
to borrow a phrase from @teef Super Bowl!~!~!!!
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Whiskey River take my mind,
Don't let her mem'ry torture me.
Whiskey River don't run dry,
You're all I've got, take care of me.
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5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
I don’t get the chandler jones love. Seems like a risk— 11-year vet?
he really is a fan board fav Yep. Maybe on a short term deal to put our defense over the top..?
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5 minutes ago, Locomark said:
Jinx… I just said almost the exact same thing on the Jones singing thread…
great minds mate....haha
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Once a player leaves Buffalo I never wish them ill will. Its been drummed into my head how much of a business the NFL is and I accept it. The BILLS roster is my priority and as long as we are upgrading and making smart saavy roster decisions Im happy. I trust the process bottom line.
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haha lets start a trend. Instead of all the Williams who have played for Buffalo lets do a run in Jones'..........2 on Defense would be amazing just sayin'......
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hmmm wrong Jones i was hoping for a Chandler Jones headline *shugs* a girl can dream.....
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So...where does this money come from for Von???
in The Stadium Wall
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or is this fantasy..........caught in a landslide..........:-)
sorry couldn't resist