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Move the Cavs to Columbus and give Buffalo an NBA team. The Buffalo Barrels owed by Pegs or Labatts or both. A beer barrel going over the falls would be secondary logo. Colors would be old Braves blue colors only and adding navy blue for contrast. Current Cavs top to bottom minus LeBron, who himself causes plenty of diva problems, is a hot mess. Would rather start over fresh as an expansion team. (never gonna happen but)If Clippers new arena failed and Clips wanted to move back I would take that over both scenarios stated above.

He needs to call Jordan Mathews, Percy Harvin, and Anquan Boldin, for career advice.

Yeah. I can't for the life of me figure out if they are all dead or not. 3 Ghosts and a Corpse. Sounds like a death metal band name.

you can deny a screen shot.

Josh Allennanated. pronounced like alienated

When was the last time Thurman was right??

lol.... Gronk does White. Gronk gives White head.

I would take Mel Kipers advice over majority of GM's. Mel is right about as often as an avg NFL GM and at least as good as any other media prognosticator. He was right Trev Alberts was a bust.

No but it is very close. I vote the Olympics, Pro Soccer in US, and WNBA, as most overrated that networks shove down our throats mercilessly.

You are correct. I drew this out way too far but it was somewhat fun. My point is all semantics and it does bring up how fans can have different interpretations of value when a pick is traded for multiple picks and how to evaluate that value. Cheers for the friendly debate.

Tavon Austin is arguably maybe worth EJ Kiko and Gragg combined. But it is very close and very subjective. I would rather have Kiko over overpaid low production Tavon Austin.

Now just to be sure we ARE on the same page. In math, what is more? 3 or 1 ?

Yes EJ cost the 16th pick as part of the 16 46 222 package.

EJ as part of the 16 46 222 package.

and it was EJ as part of the 16 46 222 package.

yes.

Yes. He announced live on tv for all the world to see except you missed it. He stated Bills and Rams traded #8 for #16 46 and 222.

EJ as part of package of 16 46 and 222.

EJ as a part of package of EJ, Kiko, Gragg.

EJ, Kiko, and Gragg, cost ONE 1st round pick. There is your reality.

I give you Vaccaro at 15 or EJ package. Who gets more players?? Bills do, they get 3 players Saints get 1. Aside from whiffing on EJ as a pick. Bills got better value. I have not ever argued that pick 16 was not a first round pick. IT is PART of a PACKAGE so has different value.

not unless he was traded for multiple picks.

Yes they were both 1st round picks. But since EJ was a part of a 3 pick package EJ cost much less than a first round pick. for the 8th pick Bills received EJ KiKo and Gragg. for the 15th pick Saints received K Vaccaro. what is greater 3 or 1 ? ?? Kenny Vaccaro was not part of a trade so he cost 100% of a #15 1st round pick. EJ only cost a portion of his draft positon.

Pick 8 was traded for pick 16 46 and 222. Therefor pick 16 was worth less than a first round pick if you want to try and assign value for that 1/3 of the package when evaluating the trade and the pick.

No one.