Patrick Duffy

Well, thing is, is there is 2 games that stand out the most where offense in particular struggled. That was Jags and Indy. Both those games the Oline was missing important pieces.

Also difficult to hold the ball long enough for a deeper play to develop when the Oline is getting ripped apart too. Whatever the case, imo you take any points you can get to close out the half knowing you get ball back after

Well would you say they still suck when the Oline and Defense is healthy?

Well as for "right now" I'm not sure there is much you can do. But would have tried to do something to help the interior OL before trade deadline along with exploring what possibilities if any I could do to upgrade RB. I think I'd start there myself...

Yeah that one hurt. I felt it was before that though after Bills scored making it 14-7 and Bills D if not for the roughing passer penalty, would have had Colts stopped for what would have been a 3 and out with the momentum shift.

By the way, what point does most define "bust" to be? Like what round? imo to be considered an actual "bust", is rounds 1-3 and sometimes 3rd round is "iffy" depending on circumstances... Saw someone posted J. Fromm is a bust and I don't get that one. A 5th round "see what happens" pick can't be a bust imo. Just a lucky pick if you hit, otherwise not really expecting much.

Just to refer to the 3 you listed..... Ford is a definite disappointment so I agree 100%... H.Phillips- Not sure yet, although has not been as expected or hoped for, but not ready to call him a bust yet. Moss- Another one that is hard for me. The RB's are kinda hard to call due to how the Oline struggles so much. I will say though that he is not reliable catching the ball. Kinda seems slow at times hitting a hole when on the rare chance it's there though. I think he can be better but whatever the case need improvement at RB either way. But don't want to call him a bust just yet.

You talking about the Dline or Oline? The Dline has lots invested but Oline isn't that bad I didn't think?

Lol, that's the Billsy way so they say.....also just to add, of Kamara is able to play, then unfortunately it's a good chance that Bills do get ran all over again

Looked like same strategy as against Tenn and Henry. And got same results

I don't know about anyone else, but it sure kinda looked like they did at a certain point. I couldn't watch anymore myself. Believe it was not long into 3rd qter I changed it. Could easily tell how the rest of the story was going to play out. It's been a while since I was disappointed this much in this team as yesterday. Hell I wasn't as frustrated when we lost to Jags as I was yesterday, speaking for myself anyways.... Last time I was this disappointed was Josh's rookie season with the pathetic, yet laughable WR's he had to work with that couldn't catch a cold.

Well it's a little bit of many things imo. First injuries/ covid list players missing, which is biggest factor in OL being so bad. Also, Bills have a hard time with teams that feature top RB;s it seems (Henry, Taylor) which falls on DL and maybe the scheme for those types of RB's/offenses. Add in Bills have no run game and opponents know this and have 0 respect for it. Sprinkle in Daboll's questionable play calling at times along with a few bad decisions by Josh, those things can be a reason I would think

Wonder if they once again decide to trot out same OL as yesterday and Jags game? I mean there's got to be something that can be changed around if just even 1 single replacement

Well tbh, considering the injuries and whatnot, I expected more from Bills and had the feeling it would be a tough game along with knowing Colts and F. Reich were going to have that extra oooommmmmpppphhh and ready for this 2nd chance at Bills after the close playoff loss last season. Even knew it was a good chance Bills would lose especially considering the injuries/covid players that was out. But damn, was 100% caught off guard with that kind of performance.

Man, I'm still really frustrated with that thick, heavy yet healthy, and creamy dropping of manbearpig ***** that was left on the field yesterday! I mean I don't have an issue with losing, although obviously all are disappointing, but it's how they lost. Even with the injuries on OL I expected more out of the Offense than that. Dline and Defense in general for that matter just fell off a cliff...So much for the best D in the league talk. Idk, no clue what to expect going forward lol. Very disappointed and really surprised for that matter with everything they showed from top to bottom.

Damn this is hard to watch

So you think OL would have been better without him playing? Or you just ignore that question on purpose or don't want to answer?

So if you believe the OL wasn't good in the Tenn game, do you think they would have been better if Brown was not playing then? Fact is Brown makes this OL better, otherwise they wouldn't be still starting him. To me it's obvious he makes this OL better so not sure what you're seeing, so we will just agree to disagree

Not sure unless holding was called...

Falcons can't get too many of those or flags will be thrown bringing it back lol

If Pats start to blow them out I imagine all the Pats talk that's been going on will at least double smh

Well my hope of seeing at least one more upset is starting off well lol

Thing is, that RT with 4 starts has made it quite clear the OL is much better with him playing. Which is a good sign he's done that well in that little time

Lol so much of that going on lately. Either it's PM, TB, BB etc. Every week seems to be some sort of ball washing extravaganza....

Hopefully they ready to bounce back after the crap they showed on the field last week