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McD seemed to take a little shot at Dorsey in his PC. I don't think intentionally but none the less... he said something like " I could hear all the offensive chatter between all the coaches and the adjustments made throughout the game."

Ok, I agree with you there. Hopefully this continues.

I went back and looked. You are sort of correct. Davis got a target and the Bills also got a penalty. He didn't catch the ball though. -10 Yard Penalty  (15:00) (Shotgun) J.Allen pass incomplete short right to G.Davis (B.Echols, A.Gardner) [C.Mosley]. PENALTY on BUF-D.Dawkins, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at NYJ 45 - No Play. 2nd & 6 at NYJ 45

I think the bigger problem is Hurts is dangerous running the ball himself. Our guys don't chase QBs so well.

Yes, although I posted that we don't control our own destiny and a scenario to prove that, it is an unlikely scenario. Just a possible one. The entire reason for posting that was not to show that we can miss the playoffs if we win out... it was more to show that we have no room for error because there are many more scenarios that we miss the playoffs even losing just one game and thats what people don't understand when they post things like "just go 5-2 and we will get in." Its not that simple.

I said that in the game day thread when it happened. Or at least I made a joke about. I believe I said something like "OMG OMG Josh made a bad decision. Should of took the checkdown." I've said it for years... you don't get those wow plays without the other stuff. Thats what makes Josh special. Hardly anyone makes that kind of play. The same play that goes for an int is the same play that you say holy *****!

Thanks for making its own thread. I missed it in that thread. Josh throws a strike and Shakir makes moves with Kincaid huge blocks against 8 in coverage. He is back baby!!

Oh youre right my mistake. I thought they made it one year. That team was still good though. Two 11-5 years, a 12-4 year the year before Mahomes started and a 10-6 year. My point was Mahomes didn't walk onto a dumpster fire team. He walked onto an already good team with an elite offense that just didnt get over the hump and got them over the hump with his elite play.

Sorry, I don't agree. The Bills dominated that team. We owned both lines of scrimmage. Getting turnovers is part of dominating. Our offense took their foot off the gas for an entire quarter because we could. We could have scored more points if needed but they weren't. No team scored more points against the Jets this year. Not sure about last year. They held Philly to 10 points and beat them even. The Jets lost their minds and started fighting. Not only on the field but also in the tunnel on their way out. Thats a sign of domination. That team was embarrassed. I also don't agree with a couple other things but no big deal. Is it a one week thing? We shall see, but you can't tell me we didn't just completely own the Jets.

Keep in mind that running plays that "don't work" are done for more than just running the play. End arounds and screen passes to a WR and things like that, even if they don't work, make a defense have to defend it. That opens up other stuff.

Yes, thats the one I been using That is what I been saying. People giving us a 2 game cushion don't get it. They think because the browns, pitts, and bengals all beat each other up that it will take them out but that is not necessarily the case nor are those the only teams in contention for the spots. I am not even saying we can't get a WC. Just that it will be really tough to do so with our remaining schedule and that we actually don't control our own destiny at this point.

Good stuff. More of this please.

Well that wasn't the point. I've said this at least 3 times now... All I said was the Bills do not control their own destiny. That is 100% true. I have proven that before this weeks games and after this weeks games. Someone told me they do. So I had prove they don't... which they don't. Unlikely, yes. Its also unlikely the Bills win out. If the Dolphins had 4 losses then the Bills would likely win the division. That was my whole point since my other thread... the best path to the playoffs is the Bills winning the division. Its very hard to get a WC this year because all the AFC teams have practically the same record this late in the season. It is not a high likelihood. Many teams can finish with that record and the Bills hold almost no tie breakers. That would also mean the Bills only lost 1 game in this stretch which is also not a high likelihood. Possible, sure. High likelihood... I would not say that.

Heard this on WGR today on my way to the pain clinic... Brady got all the skill players involved. He rotated them regularly off the bench. Something Dorsey didn't do much of. Also Davis played his usually lots of snaps but didn't get one target. On the first part... that has been a complaint of mine since last year. Dorsey had no idea what to do with the players we have. He couldn't get anyone involved. I would have loved to seen Hines involved because he is a playmaker. Unfortunately, he got injured before we even started. I doubt Dorsey would have done anything with him but I bet Brady would have. On the second part... I don't think that is coincidence. I think Brady just had a better plan against the Jets. I never felt Dorsey actually had game plans that exposed weaknesses like Brady had last night. Now, I am not saying Brady is the guy. It was just one game. He has done some things though that Dorsey has not done. He utilized the talent we had. He ran plays to set up plays later on. Most importantly... He got Josh to take the plays that were there. I think that was by changing the reads and better play selection. Brady also ran more under center and more motion that Dorsey all season. That motion was ran with purpose and not just to run that motion. I am optimistic. I hope this carries through the rest of the season.

Technically that was a Daboll playbook that Brady did a better job with than Dorsey did.

Maybe you don't know why he is flailing his arms though. I know one time I seen that, Sauce was all over him and should have gotten called but didn't. Diggs was flailing his arms at the refs.

Im not using math. Im using the playoff simulator. There are other teams that also can make 12-5 and we dont hold tie breakers. Our conference record is the second worst in the conference.

I think its worse news. As bad as Wilson is, Boyle is probably worse. Who knows though. Not much film on him for Miami so maybe they get the surprise. Really, its the same with either QB. They need to hope their run game works and they don't turn the ball over, while the defense plays lights out and keeps them in the game.

At the very least, I think Shakir has shown that he is our best slot option since Beasley and can remain a good one going forward. I still would like better than Davis on the outside. Can't have star players all over though. I am happy that we have good options in Diggs, Cook, Kincaid, and Shakir. Hopefully Josh keeps getting them the ball and we get a better option than Davis next year. I really don't think Davis will be on this team next year. The rest of the guys will. One thing to add... that TD last night where Shakir got all that YAC to get it is something this offense sorely lacked that all other top offenses have had for years. It was amazing to see that one.

They do have value. I never disputed that. You just have yet to show me that taking a bye after London vs taking one during the most important and toughest stretch of the season would change anything. You have yet to show me that it is better.

He wouldn't have even gotten thrown to the wolves. He would have went on a team that had elite weapons and made the AFCCG and were contenders with Alex Smith at QB. Just like he did the year he started. I don't think anyone is putting Mahomes down. Just pointing out the comparison works both ways. Mahomes didn't start his first year so some dont think Josh record is as impressive. Others are pointing out that Josh started with trash... which is 100% true.

This is true. Only teams that came close to our score was the Cowboys (30) and the Chargers (27.) You also can't tell me that we couldn't have scored more points if we needed to. We ran the ball 36 times and knelt the ball twice.

It really is honestly. For a lot of flack that McD gets including from me, he actually is running a decent defense considering all the injuries. I don't think that is safe to say at all. It's only safe to say if you can find reason for it and so far you haven't convinced me.

OK I checked. The Bills still do not control their own destiny. They can win out and still not make it and there are a bunch of ways the Bills would not make it even losing just one game. So as I said after the Broncos loss and still remains true today... our best path is to win the division. If we don't win the division, we need help. You keep fighting that, but I am sorry it is true.

The defense has been solid all season IMO. Not great like they would have been but solid. The offense was just not pulling its weight. Last night the D had a great game but that was the Jets. What we need to see is our O play like last night every week. Maybe even a little better. While I do agree we lost two games when the D gave up game winning drives, the offense put them in position that those game winning drives mattered. If the offense did anything at all in the rest of the game, they wouldn't have.