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  1. I remember in middle school I'd get home from school and Top Cops reruns would come on.  Stories of police officers narrating reenactments of some stressful or life or death situations they got in.  The show was on a few years in the early 90s.  I know I enjoyed it and it actually did at the time make me think of police officers as benevolent figures.

     

     

    I finally re-found some clips of this series on Youtube and was expecting to find it ultra cheesy/preachy.  But I was surprised the stories seem to hold up well.  This one about the McMullin brothers is good stuff.    Different world then

     

     

     

    Anyone have any others? 

  2. 10 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

    I find it interesting that you consider people not being able to pay off a loan they freely took out for a higher education to be an example of life being hard. Really? That’s your example? 

    I think this really depends on a person's age.  I was in high school in the 1990s and 2000s and the idea we must go to college was really pushed hard I thought on our generation.  Like you won't be successful in life without it.  And yeah at 17 I wasn't exactly the best long term planner.  So in that sense I have sympathy for kids that racked up the debt.

     

    But I hear what you're saying.  It seems less and less boys these days go to college for this and other reasons imo.  Understanding debt accumulation is one of them.  

     

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  3. 1 hour ago, corta765 said:

     

    I will go a step further and it is complete crap how he is borderline Saint level to a lot of Bills fans and his teams never were close the playoffs. Meanwhile Tyrod actually had some good seasons at QB and the team made it one year and was far closer the other two and the dude doesn't get near the same level of respect.

    To me that’s a fair take.

     

    I would say overall Fitz and Tyrod were about the same quality QB during their Bills years.  Tyrod to me had a better supporting cast than Fitz though.  

     

    But yeah the worshiping Fitz and Tyrod having what seems like a negative stigma around him seems a bit unfair 

  4. 1 hour ago, dhg said:

    Big card collector when I was a kid. Mainly NHL cards. Complete sets from 73 through early 80's, Topps and O-Pee-Chee. Did a lot of that buying a couple packs at a time. Also collected MLB and NFL but not as much as the hockey cards. My favorites are Gretzky rookie card and a autographed 1976 Nolan Ryan card.

     

    I also used to mail cards to teams and asked for autographs. Almost every team would send me the autographed card back along with other stuff like autographed photos, schedules, team photos, etc. It was a fun hobby when I was a kid. 

    I'm still waiting for my autograph back after writing to Jim Kelly saying I still loved him even though he lost in the Super Bowl 😅

  5. Good topic OP

     

    Double edged sword to me :  on the one hand the QB's are protected now more than ever and the increased awareness of health and nutrition can prolong their careers.

     

    On the other hand it seems like the learning curve for younger QB's is now gone or at least not what it was.  

     

    I can definitely see back up QB's playing well into their 40s.  Tyrod comes to mind 

  6. I appreciate Fitz's personality, his Bills fandom, and him trying to make it work when he was a Bill.

     

     

     

    But I mean it's hard for me to look the other way he really wasn't that good once he got his big contract.  His stats looked respectable because his TD's came mostly in garbage time.  He was nicknamed Picks Patrick for a reason.  

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  7. 25 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

    I hate to say it because it is a loser way to go, but I will chalk it up to bad luck... at least the past 2 seasons.  Last year, they had a lot of adversity with the schedule and a traumatic on-field event.  Injuries too.

     

    This season was especially bad with injuries.  It is understated, but they also had a scheduling disadvantage vs the Chiefs.  They had a short week, Chiefs a long one.  Plus the Chiefs got to rest starters an extra week.

     

     

    The 13 seconds game was a coaching/program error.  I do think McDermott is a good NFL coach and has his teams motivated and ready to play.  It was proven this season.  Things could have gone south quick at 6-6 and instead the team came to play, and especially when McDermott came under attack.

     

    Overall, I think the Bills can/should beat the Chiefs.  They have done it repeatedly in the regular season.  The last 2 times in the playoffs should have won, and I would err more to the side of coaching than I would the Chiefs being too good in both of those instances.  The Bengals seem to be a worse match up than KC.

     

     

    So its generally a combination IMO

     

    Lots of luck

    bad coaching/execution at a few critical times

    The Chiefs/Bengals are good (but the Bills should beat them if healthy and we dont have to postpone games and people dont die on the field)

    I thought the Bills playing late Monday that night hurt them as well in the Chiefs game.  When I posted a thread about it though the few responses I got were No

     

     

  8. 23 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

     

    That’s quite the star studded video!

     

    I think what was said carries a lot of weight. If we get audio I may change my opinion, but it didn’t look like Kelce was trying to do anything physical to his coach. He just grabbed his arm and bumped him a little.

     

    I compare it to the Diggs - Allen incident. The biggest factors - other than what was said - are:

     

     - KC won that game while the Bills lost theirs. The W smooths over a lot.

     

    - Diggs had prior issues so it added fuel to an existing fire. Doesn’t seem to be the case with Kelce and Reid. 

    My Dad's take on it was the guy is just a jerk shoving a 65 year old coach like that......   he had no rooting interest at all in the game so I respect his take.

     

    For me like you say the bottom line in the NFL is winning sort of like $ is the bottom line for businesses......   right or wrong that's just sort of how it is 

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  9. 5 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

     

    “Getting”? If a geared up Kelce had really run into Reid he wouldn’t have just been knocked off balance a little, he’d have flown 5 yards through the air. Kelce was very emotional and he needed to calm down, but there was no ill intent apparent.

    an appropriate song for him lol

     

     

     

     

    As much as I want to say it was totally classless, d- baggy, and uncalled for.......   if Josh Allen bumps Mcdermott like that during the Super Bowl and wins...  I mean I still don't think I'll say  Oh Wow He is The ultimate competitor but it would be very easy for me to look the other way.  

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  10. 20 years of total dominance by the Patriots is still too much to look past.  I mean even if the Bills were never exactly a threat to win the Super Bowl any of those years.

     

     

     

    Although the Chiefs are definitely trending in the wrong direction for me in terms of like ability.  

  11. 21 hours ago, Peevo said:

     

    As we are both Millennial Bills fans, I imagine responses here will cleave along generational lines.

     

    "Embarrassing" can take many forms. Sure, they got killed in the Superbowl.  That's a bad game.  It happens. Bills aren't the only team to get blown out in the Superbowl.

     

    The Bills CHOSE to remove home games from their fans, and play in Toronto.  That's indefensible.  

     

    The entire post Mularkey drought deserves consideration for this though.  There's so many blunders.

    • Trading All-Pro LT Jason Peters in his young prime (probably a Hall of Famer)
    • Trading Marshawn Lynch in his young prime for peanuts (none of the return made any impact on Bills)
    • Games in Toronto, then extending the Toronto series, then giving yourself credit for ending the extension of the series a year after
    • Extending Dick Jauron
    • Signing Terrell Owens
    • The decision to redesign the jerseys & color scheme when Drew Bledsoe came to Buffalo
    • The coterie of powerful, shadowy, old, male executives at One Bills Drive during the drought who kept getting paychecks yet never took responsibility for any of the team's failures.  
      • Tom Modrak - what did he do all day? no like seriously what was his job there?
      • John Guy - same question as above
      • Bud Carpenter - used outdated injury treatments on players, was hesitant to oversight or change. Doug Marrone wanted to fire him, and the head coach DIDN'T HAVE THE POWER TO FIRE HIS TRAINER
      • Scott Berchtold - PR exec that ruled the press box with an iron fist. 
        • Remember when he denied "knowing anything about" that cancelled halftime celebration on the field for Ralph during the Browns 6-3 game?
        • There was controversy with the media when Troy Vincent broke JP Losman's leg at training camp. 
        • WGR 550's Paul Hamilton reported it very differently than the "company line" and it's caused tension between the two camps for years
      • Jeff Littman - mysterious financial advisor who was never available to the media
      • Jim Overdorf -  still employed?  Didn't he cut Troy Vincent without anyone else's knowledge?

     

    I agree with a lot of that but I liked T.O.

     

    From what I recall he was still pretty good on the field and not a cancer in the locker room.  Actually he still seems to speak fondly of his time here 

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  12. As I get older I find I have more respect for people that do.  My mom used to run Cub Scouts when I was a kid and was a little league mom a short time when I played.  

     

     

    Going through some old family photo albums there was a bunch of pictures of me in Little League.  There was one coach there who was a volunteer fireman and pulled some strings to get our neighborhood team into a neighboring league from another town because at that point the league was dissolving.   I remember traveling to the other town wasn't the most fun but as an adult yeah I have a ton of respect for that guy.  I mean he did what he could to try to make things happen in retrospect.

     

     

    Maybe when I become financially independent (if ever) I'll get more involved.  Lol 

  13. 3 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

     

    I wouldn't put that fine a point on it, but next offseason is a logical point to make a regime or HC change. Tabling the conversation about how warranted that would be, a lot of expensive vets will be gone after next year and the Bills will want a HC in place that they are confident will be here for the long haul because this team will be in a position to spend to acquire players for that coach's system. It would be a huge mistake to allow that to happen and then change coaches. If McDermott is here for that transition, then I'd expect him to be here long enough to get another contract extension. Or we will have a new HC. 

     

    On a related note, that logical pivot point is putting some pressure on McDermott regardless of how his long term tenure is regarded by the Pegulas. He's not dumb. He can see it. That is why I expect less turnover than many others. If I was in that spot there's no way I'd be taking the risk of flipping the roster. That can wait until next offseason. 2024 would be a push to win it all. 

     

     

     

    I tend to agree with this and am okay for now not seeing the team make any major changes in the offseason for 1 more year.

     

    My thought pattern 2022- way too much hype in the offseason, the Tops shooting, the 7 foot snowstorm, and Hamlin almost dying on live TV burnt the team out in the long run.  

     

    2023- I know injuries are a part of the game but I thought the Bills were still unlucky in this regard last year.

     

     

    So yeah for one more year I think I am okay seeing things hopefully naturally progress.  

  14. 32 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

     

    I think you're right about Seaver, but that synapse isn't firing completely for me so I can't say for sure :)

     

    Did McCarver also go from the Mets booth to the Yankees? I credit McCarver for teaching me so much about the game. But I grew tired of him. He was like a pit bull on a soup bone. In the 8th inning he'd still be harping on something that happened in the 2nd inning. 

    I looked it up Tom was a broadcaster for the Yankees from 1989 to 1993

     

     

     

    You were right about McCarver he was a broadcaster for them from 1999 to 2001 but I have zero memory of that at all

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  15. 20 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

     

    For sure Mets were on WOR/9 and Yankees were on WPIX/11 for as long as I can remember. I don't remember when it flipped but these days when the Mets are on broadcast they are on WPIX/11. It's something I've never gotten used to.

     

    I grew up with Bob Murphy, Ralph Kiner and Lindsey Nelson. Yankees had Phil 'Scooter' Rizzuto and Bill White. My favorite Scooter story is that he would score the games and at some point it came out that one of his notations was WW. When asked he said it stood for Wasn't Watching.

    I know I found out from you as well WFAN doesn't carry the Mets anymore.  I was inquiring why they don't have the weekly manager segment they used to have.  You know Mike and the Dog and then just Mike.  

     

     

    I know Tom Seaver did commentary on some Mets game in the 90s  but I want to say he did some Yankees games as well on WB.  I kind of vaguely recall that.  

  16. 1 hour ago, ExWNYer said:

     

    Did this change over the years? It was WOR back in the day. My dad was from Dunkirk and I grew up in WNY as a kid. My dad is the reason my brother & I grew up as Bills and Sabres fans. He wasn't really into baseball but became a Mets fan in the '80s because of my brother and me. We were in Virginia by then (his job took us here). That was the infancy of cable and we had WOR for the Mets games and could also see them play the Cubs on WGN and the Braves on TBS. Those games were all televised over cable, if your subscription included those channels. Those were the days. In any event, I always thought it was cool that not only did our dad influence our choice in sports teams but we also influenced his. RIP, Dad.

    The early 90s is when I started watching.  Yeah I recall it was WOR or Channel 9 based out of Secaucus, New Jersey for some games.  The rest of the games were on Sports Channel NY which also had the Nets/Devils on it here in New Jersey.  And similar to you that was a premium channel back then that our household didn't have.  Ironically I learned much about baseball watching the Yankees as MSG was carried in our cable plan.  So most following the Mets back then came from listening to Bob Murphy back then.  

     

    I think there was a year or two the Mets were on WB11 for some games.  That was always primarily a Yankees station.  

     

     

    It wasn't until 2006 when the Mets premiered the SNY station that came in our household I could watch all the games.  Or at least had the option  

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  17. 23 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

    @Gugny @ExWNYer @Another Fan

     

    Looking forward to another season of talking baseball and most likely lamenting another lost season for the Mets. 

     

    With spring training a few weeks off, thought I'd lamp it up a bit. As you may know my youngest loves playing baseball. He's a good player but a cut below the top players in our area. He missed the cut as a 7th grader and had his heart set on making the middle school team the following year but Covid cancelled the season. Long story short, he's a HS senior now and trying out for the first time since middle school. I've been taking him down to the local field to hit him ground balls and get him some swings in the batting cage. Good times for both of us. There's something special about having a catch with your son.

     

    So was anything other than being a Mets fans for your son unacceptable?  Lol.

     

     

     

    My Dad certainly played a part in me liking the Mets.  And the Bills for that matter.  He was a big Met fan since the start of the team in 1962 and I have fond memories of watching the games on Channel 9 UPN with him as a kid listening to Ralph Kiner.

     

     

    As I'm approaching middle age now the Mets are one of the safe topics if you will my Dad and I touch on.  Hell, in all our conversations over the years the Mets are probably the #1 topic we've touched on.  I'll just stay there's other things going on in the world we might disagree upon but the Mets are always a safe topic if you will.  He's not nearly the fan that he used to be but he's still interested in them for better or worse.  

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  18. Super Bowl 28 was way worse.  Bad days in general happen and Super Bowl 27 was one for the Bills IMO.  I mean hey at least there was that Don Beebe moment of pride toward the end of the game.

     

     

     

    Totally unraveling after Thurman's fumble in Super Bowl 28 was much worse.  That showed a complete lack of mental toughness.  Which was sort of a staple of Bills teams from that era.  

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