BullBuchanan

Oh, I'm not just accusing them now, I've been doing it since like page 14. It's a fact that the college did not alert the campus of the investigation. You'll also never see me campaign for the police to keep their jobs under any circumstance.

If I'm going to make the case that justice should apply equally, regardless of station, I'm not using this case as my north star. We already live in a world where that patently isn't true, and it's also likely a HUGE part into why we don't have all the facts. His status as a big time athlete and a college that worked with a police department to bury a lead is the exact type of injustice you should be railing against. He's not the victim here.

Oh no! It would be "unfair"!? Well, *****. I didn't realize that it would be unfair. FYI, people get canned all the time. If that "ruins" you, well that's your choice.

I trust anyone who utters this statement about as much as giving Bernie Madoff a blank check.

I completely agree - that's why my solution from the very beginning was to release him regardless of guilt or innocence. You take all emotion and judgement out of the equation and you solve the problem. If he's innocent, you can try to re-sign him, and if he ends up getting picked up elsewhere, he's just a punter. Grab a new one next year.

I only wish that were so. There's still talk about things that did or didn't happen 2+ years ago with respect to people that are long gone.

I'm talking about around here.

The goalposts of this thing will forever move for some folks. If he gets charged, there will be the "what about the trial" crowd. When the trial starts, there will be "what about the verdict" crowd, if a guilty plea comes down it'll be the "what about the appeal" crowd, and once all that's exhausted it'll probably be "deep state" or whatever. The only way that this dude is 100% innocent is if he didn't have sex with her, didn't drug her and had ZERO idea anything suspect was going on. Any other scenario and he's some level of negligent to guilty. If he's got an alibi, now's the time, because I don't see it getting better for him.

mostly an egregious amount of cheese and hot sauce.

I've got ***** in my fridge that's been around longer than he has. He isn't even a member of the 53 man roster yet.

I don't buy that at all. Releasing the player is about as cut and dry as you can get and easy to do.

What exactly is wrong with that? Unrelated - Did you know he represents women in sexual assault cases including the adult entertainment industry?

You wouldn't know it if all you did was read this thread.

Sometimes the latter helps the former. This case sat without charges for nearly a year, and maybe now they'll finally do it due to public pressure. It works.

It seems folks used the fact that he follows adult entertainers on Twitter as an attempt to discredit him. In some cases it appears he legally represents them. https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/san-diego-taxpayers-fund-15-million-payment-to-nude-dancers/169269/

I imagine it'll look nice next to your Darren Sharper and Kellen Winslow jerseys.

What on earth could possibly lead you to that assumption based on what we know about the rape kit epidemic in this country?

The official suit does instead state those things

This is the quiet part I don't think @gene1973 or some of the other supporters don't want to say out loud. Amazing we took 130 pages to get to the part where we finally got a contingent of folks to conclude that ***** minors is ok.

"Across the country, as many as 200,000 rape kits sit unopened in police storage while assailants—the people whose genetic fingerprints are decisively coded within such kits—are able to dodge prosecution and, in some cases, strike again. Our latest magazine cover story is an investigation by Barbara Bradley Hagerty into the national backlog of untested rape kits—and its frightening consequences. Amid an ongoing national conversation about serial sexual abusers and how to deal with them, it’s an in-depth look at some of the ways the system fails to catch repeat offenders." https://www.theatlantic.com/newsletters/archive/2019/07/nationwide-epidemic-of-untested-rape-kits-atlantic-daily/594046/

Do you want to take a poll on how many people had drunk sex with a minor when they were an adult? We seem to be conveniently dropping that point off of these excuses at a startling regularity. I'll start : Not me.

If it's a misdemeanor does that make it less disgusting or do you derive your morality from the ebb and flow of the law?

You do realize that the investigation and evidence was gathered long before most people ever heard of him right? He probably had a similar amount of notoriety as the other two players referenced.

Because he allegedly orchestrated the whole thing and is the primary suspect.

If he's cut and innocent, he'll be free to sign with anyone he chooses - including us.