Governor

The units don’t actually look like that. Parker’s Landing is a dump mostly filled with college kids. You’re not really finding anything cheaper than that. Some of Parker’s Landing is student housing where there throw 3 people in a 3 bedroom. Not flashy at all. it isn’t “elitist” like Maryland.

I used to have a home in Pebble Creek Village in North Tampa. These apartments weren’t there and must be new. It used to be all farmland out there. That’s a safe area. These rates are even higher than I thought. That happened way before Joe got in there. https://www.apartments.com/links-at-pebble-creek-tampa-fl/z902q9w/

I used to live here. It was $600/month at the time. Not overly nice. Starts at 1500 now. https://www.apartments.com/cortland-bayport-tampa-fl/gz7zptz/

That’s a nice duplex you have there. That’s in Town-n-Country. You trying to get me killed??? Edit: That’s actually worse than Town n Country. Hillsborough and Armenia is a really dangerous area. Definitely don’t let your college aged daughter move near there.

So, I’m 45 years old, and now you’re telling me I should go backwards to how I lived when I was 22 and get a booger eating roommate just to be able to live in Florida and not starve? That doesn’t sound like freedom to me.

That would be great but people need to understand that most adults in Florida don’t get that opportunity and work in restaurants, grocery stores, and hotels on the beach, gig work, traveling nurses, etc.

I work at Publix as the grocery “team leader” and make 13.25 an hour. I’m not a kid. A kid can’t perform this job. Most of my friends are 25-45 and fall in this income. Using this formula, show me where I can live in Tampa as a single male with no children. This should be entertaining. Go with a ratio multiplier. In this case, the standard multiplier is 3. That means that the applicant should make at least three times his or her gross monthly income to cover rental expenses. The math would look like this: Monthly Rent X 3 = Minimum monthly rental income For example, if the rent on an apartment costs $1,500 per month, then the applicant must gross a minimum of $4,500 per month in income. The math: $1,500 X 3 = $4,500

I’ve never seen someone so out of touch with how the working class lives in a state like Florida.

This is what I’ve been trying to tell you. Florida isn’t cheap at all and hasn’t been since the late 90’s. How could a 12.50 an hour Publix worker afford that rent in Tampa?

I would actually set an adult minimum wage and one for kids. if you’re business can run with kids, go ahead and hire kids. If not, you’re paying $15 hour. That gets the old “fast food jobs are for kids” model back that existed and ended in the 1980’s. When was the last time you paid rent? Apartments in Florida are 1500 a month. They’re 1600 here. When we looked in Frederick, MD, it was 1800-2000/month. Have a look… https://www.apartments.com/tampa-fl/

Most of the lowest wage workers in restaurants, retail, fast food, etc. moved to warehouse jobs like beer distributors, Frito-lay, UPS, etc.

When it’s whites, it’s “Boys will be boys.” When it’s not, “gun them down!”

In NJ, you can make like 2000/month and still qualify for FULL HC and FULL dental through the state. No co-pays. Floridians, think about that. That would cover like 75 percent of your entire workforce. FULL DENTAL!

They’re taking better paying jobs. That’s good.

Automation was coming regardless. As you now see, people are refusing to be forced back to those jobs, and that’s a good thing. No adult should be working at McDonalds. Automation in the retail sector came well before any wage hikes passed in the states. The old “kiosk” boogeyman didn’t stop states from moving forward. But they really don’t vary much at all. Rent for an apartment is the same in Florida as it is here in NJ and you make half of what you’d make in NJ. The math for working people isn’t hard at all. Maybe 20 years ago that was true, but not anymore.

If you lived with me, you would make 80-100k a year doing the same job and we could go hiking and play at the waterfalls and watch bald eagles fly over us since you’d have days off. I’m about to do that right now. We have lots of baby Red foxes too, and black bears.

It should be interesting when DeSantis tries to block the voice of the people who voted on the wage hike in Florida, like he does with everything else. Thats not gonna go well at all.

You guys will stick to your failed trickle down theory until it puts you on the streets. That’s dedication right there.

Say hi to your new home in Birmingham, Alabama where it’s a race to the bottom and everyone’s poor. Yay! Isn’t this great??? Lol. You sure showed us right?

Strangely enough, it was Amazon that helped set the floor at $15. You have it entirely backwards. The working poor has money to spend and small businesses are thriving here in NJ.

Nobody cares. You either pay a living wage or get out. No one is losing sleep over it except for billionaire CEOs. If you cannot provide a living wage, the state of NJ does not want your unethical business operating here any longer. Go to Alabama and do that.

This sadness has to stop. When does Maryland go into effect?

Yes. Goes into effect end of year. Many other states also. Maryland is probably only 1 year behind us. What is their timetable?

All of the major retailers start at $15 here in NJ. I believe they had until the end of the year to do that and decided to do it sooner. It isn’t a debate on whether is should or shouldn’t happen. It already happened. You’re fighting a battle that you already lost a year ago.

Just because you and I had to work for nothing growing up doesn’t mean that it was ever ok, and doesn’t mean people should be paying their dues like we did in 2021. It’s that kind of bitterness that hurts the country as a whole. Didn’t I just do that?