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49 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:
I thought it was interesting that the only TE visit I've seen was Nauta from Georgia. Perhaps they've made some moves since then, but I haven't seen it.
Nauta seems like a well rounded TE. Whether it be Sternberger, Smith, Wilson, Knox or Nuata is anyone's guess.
Overall, I just don't see them going TE in the first round which I glean you're sensing as well.
Indeed. Beane and McDermott don't seem like "tight end in the 1st" types to me. Ditto for WR, actually.
I have expected all along and continue to suspect that it will be a defensive tackle or edge rusher. Nothing has changed.
I also know they can't be happy with just Kroft, Croom, and Fisher. Hard to read the tea leaves on who they like in the draft, though, for the reason you mentioned.-
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1 hour ago, Formerly Allan in MD said:
Murray ranked 29.
I believe that was the 1.0 big board.
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1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said:
Yeah. That's what I was driving at. If you polled the board, it would be nearly unanimous for Hock over Fant. Was just opining that it wouldn't shock me if Fant went before him. I don't personally the Bills are targeting either player.
I think you're correct on both counts.
It's clear to me the Bills will draft a tight end, but it's a lot harder to predict which one. Irv Smith or Dawson Knox are my current best guesses.-
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2 minutes ago, NewEra said:
I’d be sick over it. While I’d consider Hockenson a reach at 9, I’d be happy to have him in a Bills uniform. Blocking matters.
This. Give me Hock all day over Fant. Not even close.
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44 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:
That typically happens to players that don’t live up to the draft capital that was spent on them...it’s unfortunate, but happens all the time to various players...just think back to Maybin or EJ...I don’t think fans would be so hard on Zay had the Bills not traded up to get him- especially when there was still better talent at WR on the board.
Your post is kind of a perfect example of the undue Zay hate.
You just mentioned Zay Jones in the same breath as Aaron Maybin and EJ Manuel, both of whom were draft busts. Zay Jones is not a bust. He has not yet become an upper echelon NFL WR, that much is clear. But to mention him in the same breath as Aaron Maybin?
Zay Jones has 968 yards and 9 TDs across his first two NFL seasons, catching passes from guys like Tyrod Taylor, Nathan Peterman, Derek Anderson, Matt Barkley, and rookie Josh Allen. He had more touchdown receptions last year than AJ Green, Alshon Jeffrey, TY Hilton, Odell Beckham Jr, Keenan Allen, Robert Woods, etc.
Just for the sake of comparison, Bills all time great Eric Moulds had 573 yards and 2 TDs in his first two seasons, and he was catching passes from Jim Kelly in year 1.
Zay's no All Pro at this point. But he's far from a bust, and I think he'll be a #2 WR in the NFL for a long time.
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They're truly awful.
And the all-black alternates? The worst.
I much prefer the current helmets to the ones pictured here.
In any case, the following remains true: The Bills have the best jerseys in the AFC East and probably in the entire NFL. Red, white, and blue can't be beat!-
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35 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:
I get the feeling Teller is destined for the PS. He wasnt any better than Ducasse or Miller. Hope Im wrong and he develops nicely. Because he would be a nice cheap backup at a minimum. Feliciano is probably the one most likely to not make the roster of the FA signings unless he can back up at C.
I disagree, if only because McDermott and Beane specifically mentioned him at the end of last season as a guy they feel was starting to "come on" as the year progressed. They lumped him in with Levi Wallace and Robert Foster as guys who they were glad to have gotten meaningful reps and who they wanted a longer look at.
I'll say one thing, though: if Teller is to win the job, he'll darn sure have to earn it. The offensive guard battle might be the fiercest in camp. Cue McDermott: "Iron sharpens iron".-
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I know this will be a big shocker coming from a relentless optimist, but...I love this signing!
Of all the o-line signings this offseason, Spain is only the second guy (Morse being the first) that I view as a surefire starter.
In my opinion, the Bills had only one surefire starter (Dawkins) along the o-line when the offseason started. Now they have 3/5. I have confidence that the one of the many guard candidates will capably fill the other OG spot. The biggest remaining concern is RT, where Nsekhe can and maybe WILL start for a year, but isn't the long term answer.
Still, seeing two high quality starters (whose strength happens to be pass blocking, by the way) added, as well as a bunch of depth and competition, has been awesome. Outstanding job by Beane making major OL upgrades without breaking the bank or hamstringing the freshly resuscitated salary cap situation.-
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7 hours ago, Devilmann said:
People jumping on the wagon I’m sure
This.
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4 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:
We have a top flight edge rusher. The best way to get pressure is up the middle. They will take BPA which will likely be a DT but could be a DE.
Pat Williams, Kevin Williams, Star And Kwan Short are not DEs. This is what our D runs on.
Two things:1) Jerry Hughes is on the wrong side of 30 and his contract is up after this year.
2) Regardless of Jerry Hughes' production and regardless of whether or not he re-signs, the Bills were one of the 6 worst teams in the league last year in terms of sacking the quarterback.
I fully agree that the defense needs a quality starting 3T to operate at optimum strength. Still, I maintain that if you cornered Beane and McDermott and forced them to pick the position of greater importance, they'd still tell you "edge rusher". Just a guess. Either way, the Bills need one (and possibly two) of them.
3T, Edge, doesn't matter. Pick a quality defensive lineman and I'll be happy.-
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36 minutes ago, richardb1952 said:
TE or WR?
She'd probably be mad if I didn't say she's a tight end...-
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10 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:
I agree. I believe they'd love to be able to take and end over a tackle. Personally, I'd love to take Simmonds in the 2nd if he falls.
Yeah. Based on the prospects at both positions this year, I feel more confident that they can get a quality DT in rounds 2-3 than an edge rusher. There seems to be a pretty big dropoff after the "big 4" edge guys. There seems to be much LESS of a dropoff from the 1st to the 2nd tier of DTs. Maybe that's just my perception.
Either way, I think all the rumors we've heard about the Bills' interest in Clowney, Clark, and Ogbah, not to mention their being one of the final four suitors for Mack last year, lead me to believe that edge rusher is their number 1 desire at this point. It makes sense, too. They've already addressed the other three "premium positions" with Allen, Dawkins, and White. Edge Rusher is the last "fundamental building block" left on the old shopping list.-
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I keep hearing Beane talk about the "premium positions" in round 1.
One would tend to think edge rusher would trump 3T, but it certainly depends on how the board falls. They're not going to forego their #1 ranked 3T to take their #4 ranked edge rusher, for instance.
Is it April yet?-
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This is like a low key Bryant Johnson watch. I dig it.
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It's really hard for me to believe that Dougy Marrone would pass on Quinnen Williams.
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I just don't think this is what the NFL wants, and at the end of the day, thats who the Bills need to make happy.
I HAVE wondered, though, why they don't do the old "parking lot stadium swap-a-roo" like the Broncos did. Build a new stadium on the current site of the New Era parking lots, and turn the current New Era Field into new parking lots. Orchard Park is just such a perfect location for the Bills stadium. Why change a thing?
On the other hand, I think the NFL wants the stadium downtown. And a multi-use downtown stadium (with at least a retractable roof, as gross as that sounds) is probably the best way to get the funds needed to build the thing.
As long as the Bills stay in Buffalo, I'll be fine with whatever ultimately needs to happen to get to that point.-
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4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:
Everything else I can't argue. But they could be in good shape if they take one of the QBs in this years draft at 6.
Yeah. A Dwayne Haskins/Saquon Barkley pairing could work. I'd rather have Sam Darnold/Josh Jacobs, personally. I just think Gettleman screwed the pooch last year by having the 2nd overall pick in a potentially historically great QB class and opting to use it on a freaking running back. Amateur hour. -
This thread got gross fast.
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I personally happen to think that Adam Gase is a bad head coach. It seems like he lost the locker room in Miami. There seemed to be lots of infighting and leaks and players speaking out about their unhappiness. Jordan Phillips, for one, couldn't WAIT to get out of there. Gase even publicly called out his players a few times to the media.
I was quite pleased when the Jets both kept Mike McCagnen as GM AND hired Adam Gase as head coach. That was a good day to be a Bills fan.-
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I'm just gonna say it in every single thread mentioning the Giants: Gettleman is a terrible GM without a cohesive, logical vision for his team. I am EXTREMELY glad he is not the GM of MY favorite team.
The Giants could be entering 2019 with, say, a core of Sam Darnold, Odell Beckham, and Derrius Guice. In this scenario, the money they're NOT spending on Eli could be spent on retaining Landon Collins. Instead, Gettleman picks a RUNNING BACK over a franchise QB, pays Eli $23million, watches Landon Collins walk away, and trades away Odell Beckham. I mean....that is just staggering. I am speechless. I am without speech.
Gettleman is the absolute worst.-
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1 minute ago, Augie said:
I remember the first time I ever saw Curtis Martin play. It was an all star game (Blue-Gray?), and he just jumped out.....this guy is not like the other guys. I don’t claim to have a great eye for this stuff, but I was immediately asking “who IS that guy?” His great career was kind of....”quiet?” for some reason. Or at least it seemed that way to me too.
You're 100% right. He's a Hall of Famer. And yet, if you were to ask long time football fans to make their "top 10 all time running backs" list, I'd be willing to bet that very few would feature Curtis Martin -
51 minutes ago, MacGyver said:
He didn't perform well enough?
Clearly.
The question is how did he go from being so good on the field that another team tried to steal him away to being so bad that he was benched and didn't get re-signed? -
LeSean McCoy.
Seriously.
This dude is the closest thing to Barry Sanders since, well....Barry Sanders.
Because he has never had much postseason success, and because he has played the second half of his career in Buffalo (which, in terms of national eyes on the team, may as well be the Atlanta Legends), he is not talked about much. Or at least, not as much as his trascendent talent level should dictate.
Frank Gore, also. Top five all time in NFL rushing yards. His longevity and consistency -- especially considering the injuries he had in college -- are insane.
Funny that these two guys now comprise the Buffalo Bills backfield. What a time to be alive.
Bills host OG Quinton Spain from Titans***Update...SIGNED***
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Agreed. I don't see any room for a rookie guard at this point.
Among the guys you mentioned, they break down into three pairs for me:
Young, developing guys: Boettger, Teller
Versatile interior swing backups: Feliciano, Sirles
Experienced starters, probable early advantage in starting competition: Spain, Long
If they add a draftee to the o-line, as you said, it seems likely that it will be a tackle. And frankly, I'm not sold on Nsekhe and Waddle as fixes at that position. I'd like them to spend a 2nd or 3rd on a tackle.