oldmanfan

You’re assuming the only victories will be moral. Could that be because you’re one of those hoping to justify your notion that Allen was a bad draft puck so you can brag about being right?

I think he tries to claim inside information he doesn’t have. Just a gut feeling; I think he wants back in the league, people aren’t hiring him, and he wants to give an impression he’s still relevant. Reporters aren’t necessarily guys that failed in the front office for several teams.

Not far fetched, I just think Lombardi tries to make himself more relevant than he is.

Lombardi has failed several times as a front office guy with several teams. These kind of posts strike me as a guy trying desperately to claim some sort of relevance.

He improved from year one to year two. There is no reason to expect that he won’t continue to improve in year three. He has work to do of course as do most young QBs, still some negatives to work on. But his future is bright. The vast majority on this board understand this; that he has positives and negatives although some slant more either way. Now I have been challenged on my statement that there are some who would like to see Allen not work out do they can say they were right about him (GreggTX, jrober, and check any game day chat room for others). There is a rich history of QBs getting slammed, however. I have watched Buffalo Bills football since 1960 when I was 5 years old. And this stuff has gone on constantly. Warren Rabb vs. Johnny Greene. Kemp vs. Lamonica. Shaw and Harris. Ferguson and Marangi. The cast of idiots in the early 80’s before Kelly. Jelly was by far the best QB we ever had and by far the one everyone agreed in, but even then you had a few people saying Reich should have QBs a SB or two. Then Johnson and Flutie. . Edwards and Losman and Holcomb. Then time to blast EJ. Then blast Orton. Then Fitz. And now folks (some, certainly not all) have it in their minds Allen doesn’t cut it. The one great constant in Bills football, the Kelly years being the exception, is that fans are never satisfied with their QB, that it’s always the backup or the next guy that is the guy we need. Allen may be, maybe not. But it’s clearly too soon to make any kind of definitive pronouncement. I can only surmise those who seek to criticize every thing a second year QB has done, every single pass, every single decision do so as a kind of defense mechanism and/or to try and justify a prediction they made. Hope I’m wrong. For the record I think it’s 70/30 he’s our long term answer.

Butch Byrd.

Well, I also wanted Rosen and an now happy we have Allen. And if you care to read any of my previous posts about Allen I have said repeatedly he improved last year but still has a ways to go. Like most young QBs. This coming year if we have it should tell a lot. And none of that means a hill of beans to the topic from the OP. It has nothing to do with questioning Allen; I do above as do you. But there are a few people here who want Allen to fail. We all know that, we all can pick them out. Are they trolls? Maybe. Do they exist? Certainly. There is nothing lazy not nor juvenile about acknowledging reality.

There are some here, just a few, who want to see him fail so they can brag about being right at the time Allen was drafted. We all know that.

Beane admitted they should have brought a vet like Anderson in earlier. How long do you want to stomp on the corpse of this issue?

Nice move. Give him his props.

Ralph Wilson is arguably one of the most important individuals in the history of the WNY region, and his impact on the NFL is underrated. He made the city a major league sports team, and what he has done for the health care community and countless other organizations through his charitable works that live on even after his death are remarkable. He helped save the Raiders and the AFL, he was the point person early on in negotiating television contracts for the league that helped lead the league towards the incredible revenue streams they enjoy to this day, stood up for smaller franchises to ensure that they survived and thrived. His impact on the league in general was incalculable, and led to his HOF recognition. Did the team do as well as it could have? No. Ralph had his faults as an owner to be sure, and towards the end of his life it was that he let Litman have too much influence. But stomping on a man's grave on his birthday, a man who contributed so much to WNY, doesn't seem necessary.

Terribly sorry for your loss.

Damn. Such great memories of him. Was there for the Hit. RIP Mike, one of the greats!

I hope they just focus on the draft now and use cap dollars on extensions.

Yeah they have time but I’ll feel better when they’r signed Long term

If you don’t know about what made him a billionaire then maybe you should be quiet and not call him a lucky billionaire. He missed on Ryan, listened to some folks and went out and got McD and Beane. Botterill was highly regarded in the league. Housley was as well. Sometimes you don’t know until the give the guy a shot.

Lucky billionaires. Right. Sure.

BPA. Could be RB, TE. Should be interesting.

Like what’s been done thus far, but I’d like to see at least two of these guys get locked up this off season.

Great signings thus far. Maybe Terry can have him take over the Sabres? At the very least maybe he could advise them on how to run a team.

He wants Shula’s record.

I’ll help some. Joe Collier got fired in ‘68, and I think Harvey was interim for a bit there. Then we had the wonderful John Rauch in 69-70 with the brilliant idea of using OJ as a decoy. Then Harvey went 1-13 in71 and Lou came on in 72-76. He quit and the wonderful Jim Ringo was awful for a year. Lou did OK in round 2. He obviously saw OJs value, and got them to the playoffs in 74, where they got killed by the Steelers. I want to say Shaw was drafted in 70, and he was offensive ROY. I think he would have been great but he got hurt and was never the same afterward. Cousineau I want to say got drafted in 77. Might be off a year though.

No one with any knowledge of football can possibly think you'd want Minshew over Allen as your QB. At least at this point in their careers.

Yes it was. It's a shame the family got into such disputes.

My first stop every time I'm back. Two burned with sauce, onion, and pickle, rings. It's heaven. Way, way back in the day when I was 10 years old I played baseball for the Lincoln Park Lions. an 8 year old kid named Teddy tried out and made the team, played center field. He was the grandson of the guy who started Ted's. Teddy's dad ran the Sheridan store (only one other than the one next to the Peace Bridge then), and he was so happy Teddy was on the team he told us we could get free lunch if we won on Saturday morning. We went undefeated and I still have great memories of going to get lunch with the team.