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i'm with royal with on this one. this is a trend for him, yet it's everyone else's inability to understand.

he doesn't understand. literally the only point being made was including more than 2021 while evaluating mcd in close games. nothing more, nothing less. people who were just throwing out the comment that mcd is 0-whatever in close games weren't being completely honest, and needed to include his entire tenure here. he since included states that don't have anything to do with this argument, and then becomes angry and insulting when you explain they have no purpose. he just can't comprehend what's being discussed.

jesus dude. other teams being better than the bills in 2021 really makes no difference. again...my only point was that you can't just use one year of close game records to show what kind of coach mcd was in close games. it's that simple. it amazing to me that you've turned this into something it didn't need to be. i'm not sure how you live your life.

why add the stat about other teams? why did you hope to prove? i'm not sure you even understand what you've been reading here. ever notice how the majority of your conversations go this way? why do you think that is? everyone else is off and you're spot on? if you don't like mcd, that fine. it's a valid opinion, but when you try to manipulate the numbers to show your point, you're going to get called out on it. you were here, and now you don't know how to back down. i don't have to prove anything to you. the board sees what you're doing here.

2021 is just one year. who cares what other teams did that year? there's no point to even bringing up other teams. adding stats doesn't prove your point. you're still only concentrating on one year. the bills had a very down year, which if you look at mcd's entire record, isn't typical. that's why i'm saying. if you can't comprehend it. that's on you. what togogo said was 100% accurate. posters who focus only on 2021 are doing so to push this narrative that mcd can't win close games. his overall record shows he can. that's it. you know other posters read this and key in on what you're doing right? everyone knows you're being absurd because your point wasn't valid. again, no one is piling on you...you completely deserve the grief you get on here.

what exactly don't i have a good eye on? honestly...this post is you just reeling. my only point in this discussion was that using only the 2021 close game records to describe mcd wasn't a true representation of who he is as a coach. you had a problem with that, and tried to manipulate records to prove your point.

thank you for doing the work. i think you summed this up perfectly. it's always about the coaching with you. in this thread you've tried incredibly hard to prove a point about mcd that just wasn't there. multiple times you were ask why you weren't looking beyond 2021, and you wouldn't give an answer. why? because may it wouldn't jive with your narrative that this staff can't win close games. when you did have to dive in a bit, you start eliminating games you didn't think counted, etc. you just wouldn't have an honest conversation about it. we've seen this over and over with you. if you don't like the coaching staff...fine, but at least be genuine with your posting. and who is making excuses? no one. multiple posters have said multiple times that 2021 was a bad year for this team when it came to ending games. it just wasn't a representation of how mcd has done since his tenure here, no matter how bad you want it to be. you call out other posters for being mcd worshipers, but maybe the problem is with you. you want so hard to find flaws with mcd as a coach, that you just won't listen to reason. no one in this thread has lied to you. no one is making excuses. the reality is that if you want to see who mcd is as a coach in close games, look at his career in buffalo, and not just one down season. @newcam2012 yesterday we talked about how some posters are "attacked" not because of their viewpoint, but rather their approach. read through these last few pages and tell me what you think.

you can't play that game. it's an entire season. he had a few good quarters and that's it. he's a better qb than most expected, but a handful of good showings in no way makes you elite. that 4th quarter against the ravens really fooled some miami fans into thinking tua is something that he just isn't.

i'm low brow, so this is awesome.

there is no body of work. he's a qb who was bailed out multiple times by fitz last year, and his draft pick has nothing to to with his nfl accomplishments. how about the guy plays in a single playoff game before even thinking about calling him elite. on top of that, i'm not sure he's durable enough to be in the conversation of elite. he seems like a good guy, but his team/staff did him wrong. between the brady incident and hiding a concussion...the miami organization seems to be rivaling the browns as the most classless team in the nfl.

it was 3 games. 3. trent edwards was being discussed as a possible mvp candidate the first 5 or so games of the season...so yeah.

no he didn't. at all.

my feelings!

i'm not the one making up insane comments that need to get backed up. show my that hasn't happened with the losses. why keep concentrating on 2021 and not any other season. why are you eliminating games to make your argument seem more valid. you really do deserve the blow back you get from posters on this board. the sad thing is you don't know why.

now go back to the loses and do the same thing. i have to imagine there are game were the bills scored late but still lost, making it look like they were in a tight match. you just can't manipulate numbers like that...i don't know why that so hard for you to understand. on top of that, you only focus on 2021 when describing mcd in close games. why not find out the close game record from 2017 to current to get a much better picture. this is typical of you. you post misleading, manipulated "facts" to prove a point. when you get called out on it, you're being piled on. you're not a victim. you just don't like that people see through the nonsense.

It doesn’t matter. A win is win whether you agree with it or not. You can’t do that and have a serious discussion.

they're close games the bills won. it counts whether you agree with it or not. it's insane you don't think they count, and this is why you get the grief you do. don't say something isn't arguable because stats back it up, then completely manipulate numbers so it works in you favor. this has been the last few pages of this thread. certain posters just want to look at last year and this year when it comes to close games. that's not mcd's resume. it's starts in 2017, so base his coaching talent in close games from that time at least. was it bad in 2021...sure, but that single year doesn't show a picture of him overall as a coach in close games. he won't be able to comprehend it. show us then.

don't do his homework! also, our man is eliminating close games the bills won because he wants to. there's a lot wrong with his post.

so you're eliminating close games they won just because? and i'm not sure the bolded is true. maybe you're right, but can you show us?

no. i thought the argument was some posters picking a very specific period of time to determine if mcd is good at close games or not. i suppose we could go back to 2017 and see. it's enough time and the most fair...right?

i think the point was it really wasn't a trend, (well, last year it was). 2020 there was a winning trend, 2021 was a losing trend. neither means anything to this year.

so...you're just choosing one year. i'm not a stats guy, but i think you can certainly go more than one year out to find out who mcd is in a close game.

why not include 2020? if you're talking about mcd's coaching in close games, it should really include his entire career to give you a fair idea. people are picking only including last year because it drives their narrative. last year wasn't good...at all. the year before was. every year is different.

i don't think a single poster said his 100% responsible for this, or anything remotely close. it's mcd, josh, beane, the staff, and all the guys on the team. it's a group effort, but mcd is the one who has to be the ring leader. if you don't love mcd as a coach, i don't have a problem with it. i just don't get the vitriol some have over a coach who as done well. not perfect, but this team is in good shape. you told me you didn't think anyone has an agenda, yet you don't follow posters? quite frankly, it's impossible to ignore certain posters. mostly because they shove their opinion down your throat.

nonsense. he's certainly not a perfect coach and he needs to improve in certain areas of his game, but the criticism he gets from certain posters is insane. for no reason at all, you just don't like that he's tied in with improving the culture. why? so...you don't think filthybeast has an agenda?