BillsFan4

https://news.wbfo.org/post/st-joseph-hospital-being-converted-covid-19-treatment-center St. Joseph hospital being converted to COVID-19 treatment center Wow! They will switch to only treating COVID19. Smart though.

https://www.sciencealert.com/the-new-coronavirus-isn-t-like-the-flu-but-they-have-one-big-thing-in-common No, Coronavirus Isn't 'Just Like The Flu'. Here Are The Very Important Differences A few key points: - a Chinese study showed that 41 percent of serious cases occurred among under 50s, compared with 27 percent among over 65s. "It's true that if you're older you're at greater risk, but serious cases can also happen in relatively young people with no prior conditions," said French deputy health minister Jerome Salomon. “An analysis of 45,000 confirmed cases in China, where the epidemic originated, show that the vast majority of deaths were among the elderly (14.8 percent mortality among over 80s). But another Chinese study showed that 41 percent of serious cases occurred among under 50s, compared with 27 percent among over 65s.” -Disease experts estimate that each COVID-19 sufferer infects between two to 3 others. That's a reproduction rate up to twice as high as seasonal flu, which typically infects 1.3 new people for each patient. -mortality rate of 2% would make it 20x more deadly than the flu (0.1%) -“But the true danger of coronavirus is unlikely to be the death toll. Experts say health systems could easily become overwhelmed by the number of cases requiring hospitalisation – and, often ventilation to support breathing.” - Salomon said that humans have lived with influenza for more than 100 years. “We've studied it closely," he said. "This new virus resembles the flu in terms of physical symptoms but there are huge differences." Number one is the lack of a vaccine against COVID-19, or even any treatment shown to be consistently effective.

I saw today that HHS/ASPR is releasing a stockpile (thank god!) ————————————————————————————— Saw this on another site: [Mod Edit: the above is exactly why I started this thread and now am trying to abstract the info from the (equally important) discussion and humor I want people to be able to get info from vetted links, without worrying they are clicking on malware. If you click on a link and it asks you to install something. DO NOT PROCEED, close the window with alt-F4, if it won't close reboot your computer and check for (computer) viruses when you reboot.]

Absolutely! Especially considering that many of them were retired doctors, which I’m guessing means they are probably in the 60+ higher risk category.

Yes, it’s certainly their choice. What sucks are the doctors and nurses that won’t have any other choice but to step in harms way to take care of them if they get sick. And the overwhelming effect it could have on florida’s healthcare systems if a bunch get sick all at once because of all the big gatherings that have happened in the state in recent days.

???? amazing!

Quote from above link: "Millennials are not invincible. The new data show that up to one-fifth of infected people ages 20-44 have been hospitalized, including 2%-4% who required treatment in an intensive care unit."

I’m not sure if the advise to call 311 applies to anyone outside the NYC area, but the rest of the advise does.

This is a good resource for coronavirus case numbers in every state. It is updated daily with new totals for each state. They stared doing this because the CDC wasn’t reporting complete testing data. But it looks like the CDC website may have finally started reporting more accurate full testing/infected data because they are currently showing more positive COVID19 cases than the covid tracking project. It’s still a good resource though. Here’s the CDC site: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html The reason for the testing ramp in New York is that we now have the capability to make our own COVID19 tests. They have a lab producing test kits for NYS. They should soon be able to test at least 7000 people per day. Its actually quite impressive how quickly NYS has been able to move. They asked for FDA permission to make their own tests on February 28th: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-usa-testing/new-york-scrambles-to-replace-u-s-governments-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-idUSKCN20N00J They were given permission 7 days ago: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-gives-flexibility-new-york-state-department-health-fda-issues And now can test roughly 7000 people per day. https://www.lohud.com/story/news/health/2020/03/18/why-new-yorks-local-coronavirus-testing-key-covid-19-fight/5068837002/

Quotes from NIAID director Dr. Fauci: So far they are finding that up to 20% of COVID19 patients need hospitalization. If this spreads quickly (as we’ve seen it do) it could easily completely overwhelm out medical facilities and cause needless deaths because there’s not enough ventilators and other needed equipment. https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-new-age-analysis-of-risk-confirms-young-adults-not-invincible/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2020/03/18/coronavirus-ventilators-us-hospitals-johns-hopkins-mayo-clinic/5032523002/ https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200318/us-may-not-have-enough-ventilators-for-covid19 Why covid19 is worse than the flu n 1 chart: (1 to 3.4% fatality rate may not sound like a lot, but that is 10 to 34 times more deadly than the flu, and this spreads much faster, none of us have any immunity and we have no treatments yet)

To give an idea of the impact it’s already having on NYC hospitals (in a matter of days): (the sending food part was a joke) They also need blood donations. Red Cross is calling for the same in all of NY state.

https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/a-message-from-one-of-our-doctors-to-his-family-about-covid-19?fbclid=IwAR3rCHLYtrd3yHJc2P41Y35OrhwDSiPeJtDZzA4S_OqD4Hn2HCt3u_42J1A I'm a doctor at Nebraska Medicine. Here's what I'm telling my family about COVID-19. ‘This is an email from Nebraska Medicine critical care anesthesiologist Dan Johnson, MD, to his friends and family about the seriousness of COVID-19. It is shared with permission from Dr. Johnson.’ Also, this is worth reading too: https://god.dailydot.com/high-risk-coronavirus-pandemic/ 24 High-Risk People You Should Practice Social Distancing For During The Coronavirus Pandemic While many may not be in the high risk categories, almost everyone has some friends or family that are probably at higher risk. Also, Things you may not necessarily think about - like being overweight, having diabetes, (both very high in America), or high blood pressure (hypertension), put you at higher risk. Also things like coronary artery disease or any cardiac issues/disease, digestive diseases, or people with compromised immune systems or on drugs (for rheumatoid arthritis, etc) that suppress their immune system. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langas/article/PIIS2468-1253(20)30076-5/fulltext https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-preexisting-conditions we have to try and protect our more vulnerable citizens.

Hapless post from other thread: Ive attached a graph from the 1918 influenza pandemic showing the difference between Philadelphia and St. Louis. (st. Louis put aggressive social distancing measures in place)

From the previous COVID19 thread: The U.S. is on a similar timeline as the U.K.. The experts are saying that we are roughly 10-14 days behind Italy’s COVID19 timeline. Full twitter thread for above story - There are 20+ tweets so click on the tweet to see the whole thread. Over the last 48 hours in Italy there have been roughly 700 deaths from COVID19. 350+ new deaths in a 24 hour span 2 days in a row. Hospitals are at 200+% capacity. Doctors are telling heart breaking stories of choosing which patients to let die. What we are currently trying to accomplish with these social distancing rules is avoiding what is happening in Italy. There are already stories of hospitals here dangerously short on supplies and beds. Doctors forced to work after being exposed to COVID19. Having to reuse masks for 2 weeks. It is crucial that we do everything we can to flatten the curve now.

From Hapless in the other thread: Edit: and on April 2, we see a similar graph presented by the White House, with some numbers on it. Thank you @MJS The numbers on this version of the graph appear to come from the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, or IHME as explained in this NPR report. ——————————————————————————————— WHO executive director Dr. Michael Ryan on what he’s learned from dealing with many previous outbreaks:

Brady effect - https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28925304/players-expressing-interest-joining-tom-brady-buccaneers

Yeah, definitely scary. Scariest part for me is reading about the stories coming from doctors and nurses on the front lines about shortages at some hospitals already. Or reading about people not being able to see dying family members in quarantine. That’s nightmare stuff for me.

I like Foxx’s idea, If you can limit it to a section of the house that you can then clean/disinfect afterwards. The way I look at it - I know what precautions I am taking. I know what precautions those in my household are taking. I DON’T know what precautions other people are taking. So you have to kind of have faith they are taking the recommended measures. What are they doing when they’re not working at your house? That’s my concern. Personally, I am limiting my contact with those I don’t know/trust as much as possible. But I have high risk family members I’m in contact with daily.

Thanks Foxx! I appreciate the info. Definitely encouraging to see.

Are there any experts who think things will be back to normal in a couple weeks? If so I must have missed it (but would LOVE for it to be true). Dr. Fauci said that there is no doubt the U.S. is still in the escalation phase of this virus. Testing still isn’t wide spread so it’s tough to properly contain. Many people still aren’t respecting the social distancing guidelines. Some states aren’t even taking any measures yet. 7 states have no bans on gathering size, no restaurant or bad closures, no state mandated school closing, etc. Dr. Fauci said that we will see this spread unevenly throughout the country. You’ll see states hit hard at different times (like Washington state was hit and like N.Y. is being hit right now (hospitals are being hit hard in nyc, 2 big medical ships are on the way to help with the overflow of expected cases in coming days)). I feel like it would be an absolute miracle if things are back to normal in a couple weeks. Dr. Fauci said it’ll take several weeks just to see what impact the social distancing measures have on the virus spread. I pray that things go back go back to normal soon, but I am not very hopeful.

https://www.americanchemistry.com/Novel-Coronavirus-Fighting-Products-List.pdf ^ ——————————————

Anyone listening to the Adam Silver interview on ESPN? He said part of the reason the NBA decided to suspend play so quickly last Wednesday was to raise public awareness of how serious this situation is. I read NHL insiders saying the same thing about the NHL’s decision. I do think it had a major impact on raising awareness.