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Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
Yes but for some reason it made it look like it was from this past season -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
Don't get me wrong I agree I want a big physical guy... Who has the skill set to dominate press man If you give me two equal football players.. 100% the same skill set... And one is 5'11 195 And one is 6'3 223 ... Give me the big dude all day everyday and twice in Sundays I want a guy who will come down with a tough catch That one was but for some reason it was marked 2023 season but it was from the 2022 season So the numbers I used were from two seasons ago I cannot find 2023 numbers... And unless I watch every snap to see how many times he was pressed and how he beat it... I can't give a real assessment other than he's always been good at beating press So I doubt he just became horrible even if he regressed -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
Well I just looked back at the article I used was for the 2022 season dated this year for some reason So you are correct in that part.. I cannot find an entire 2023 data set But diggs was also elite versus press for the majority of his career here... He also went on the injury report for a back injury last season and never look the same The point stands that beating pressman is a skill set.. you can be 5'11 with the skill set and abuse it or 6 ft 3 with the skill set and abuse it But if you're just 6 ft 3 220 lb with nothing else.. you're just James Hardie and you're not beating the press -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
PFF says 87 of his 107 catches were off of press man 90 grade .. 4th overall -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
There are a lot of advanced statistical sites PFF did wide receiver success rate off of pressman coverage... Quarterback rating to... Average depth of release... Average depth of route And diggs was top 7 2024... Actually finished 4th Had over 80 of his hundred catches on press man... With a 90 grade Now obviously grades are flexible... But you either beat man coverage or you can't separate... And by the advanced numbers he was still abusing it He struggled actually catching the ball sometimes -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
Diggs was statistically in the top seven for all NFL wide receivers beating press last year Had over an 85% success rate He certainly did not get abused All season by press man And yes my point was it is a skill set... Bigger guys with the skill set have an easier time of getting off the line of scrimmage but if they don't have that skill set it doesn't matter While a small guy like Tyler lockett with the skill set abuses press man Of course everybody wants AJ Brown on the outside And I'm using Gabe Davis as an example because he just got 15 million dollars a year... And he is a starting wide receiver in the NFL currently There are a lot more Gabe Davis type guys then Terrell Owens.... So your average big receiver is like Gabe Davis not AJ Brown... And he is not a top 15 guy beating press I never once said Gabe Davis was anything spectacular... He's your typical big receiver... And Tyler lockett is much better being press than him Tyler lockett is also good but nobody ever says he's a top 10 guy -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
It is always the athlete you're going up against... I played college corner and have been across from every type of wide receiver... Obviously you're big strong fast athletic guy... Julio Jones, Eric moulds , Calvin Johnson , AJ Green are mismatches for anybody That is the pure prototype built in a lab But you're non freak big guy.. like Gabe Davis.. those types didn't give me much problem... Especially if you played with good technique It was the diggs or Lee Evans types... AB types... Average sized.. but so quick and athletic while running the entire route tree... That you have to be safe and cannot really Gamble Those are nightmares... I can't imagine shadowing prime Antonio Brown for 60 minutes... But on the flip nobody wants to do that to Randy Moss... Who there is no answer for -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
I played college corner and yeah I generally would rather go up against a Gabe Davis type than a Antonio Brown Obviously a big fast twitched athlete like Terrell Owens would give anybody hell... But it was always easy to get your hands on your typical big wr... Compared to Justin Jefferson... Who is average sized yet slick Obviously you're Julio Jones and AJ Brown's are super rare types... And the toughest -
Why the Bills don't "need" a traditional X receiver
Buffalo716 replied to Mikey152's topic in The Stadium Wall
Actually some of the hardest guys to ever press were Marvin Harrison and Antonio Brown... Odell Beckham was very hard to press Yet it's actually not hard to get your hands on Gabe Davis at the line of scrimmage Every wide receiver has lost a press battle before... But diggs throughout his career... Had a bevy of release moves which made it really hard to get your hands on him at the line of scrimmage... Diggs is certainly not a big wide receiver.. average for NFL standards There are a lot of release moves with a first backward step which actually won't let the defensive back get their hands on you and if they reach they will overextend and you can blow by them Don't get me wrong big guys like terell Owens can get off the press... But there are a lot of modern receivers at 6 ft tall or 6'1 who destroy press Like Justin Jefferson also And I wouldn't consider those big receivers... If you're pushing 220 lb or close to basically 6'3 I consider you big Davante Adams is not super tall.. 6'1 but he is pushing 220 so I would consider him big and he's obviously a freak off press Cedee lamb is 6'2 but only 185... He's got good size but he isn't huge... And he destroys press also Lockett destroys press and he isnt big... Beating press man is more of a skill then something that comes down to purely height or weight... Is Cole Beasley too small to beat an outside press from Jalen Ramsey? Yes Did diggs rip up Ramsey basically every single time he has tried pressing him? Yes and he's also just average NFL wr size The top 10 of NFL wide receivers beating press last season is basically mixed between some big guys and some not big guys which shows it's more of a skill set AJ Brown , Metcalf , Adams all guys I'd put squarely in big wide receivers Then diggs , lockett , fuller and Jefferson... None 6'2 or over and none are huge Those are 7 out of the top 10 on beating press last season ... Also kupp and Hopkins... Hopkins is pushing 220 but only 6'1.. so I'm inclined to add him to the big guys although he's really not huge There are some big physical freaks.. and some precise technical wide receivers But Tyler lockett is 5'11 and he abuses press man -
Marvin Harrison Jr is extremely talented but he is nowhere near one of the top five or 10 wide receivers I've seen in college Super good.. but the media is making him out to be a talent that we've never seen Like he's on a pedestal all his own... But there's a few wide receivers in this class who are not that far off from him He's honestly not even the prospect Sammy Watkins was coming out... And look how that panned out
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Agreed... Van demark is another very good athlete who was very raw He needed two or three years of development at least... Which a lot of NFL teams don't have the patience for... The bills on the other hand have shown they will give players two plus years of development But as you said I think he is built for the left side not the right... And putting in Collins for Brown or trading brown would be 3 years of hard development gone to waste When he's finally turning a corner He has height , length , he has a boxer straight to engage and reroute pass rushers... He is a Mauler in the run game... He could run block zone or man schemes and he is athletic enough to learn pass protection with reps I know it's hard developing linemen over two or three or four years... But he could potentially be a perennial pro bowler and Future all pro with his traits If anything you resign him now to a four or five-year deal way cheaper before he really ascends... Which I will predict is this year
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Offensive line is the hardest position to develop in the modern NFL.. there is a complete lack of NFL quality lineman coming from college to the pros compared to 20 years ago The schemes colleges run make it harder to transition to the NFL game... It generally takes two three four years for a non Blue Chip lineman to get it Spencer also lost a year of football in college due to covid... And battled through injuries in the pros early in his career which hampered development Physically he has every single thing you want... Including a strong work ethic He might not peek till he is 29 or 30... But he looks like a guy who could be a future All pro due to his traits which is why you definitely don't give up on him he can definitely be Josh's bookend right tackle because he has a mean streak and protects Josh.. and he's a phenomenal athlete who can move the pocket with Josh
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Anderson on the Jets years ago, after a blocked fg attempt Hauschka Was trotting off the field... Not part of the play And Anderson blind side blew him up... Injured him and hauschka was never the same
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This was easy to spot from a mile away Mike Brown is like the cheapest owner in the NFL
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Goodine and braswell couldn't get a scholarship from Syracuse in 2005 That's my point... The sanctions hurt Syracuse recruiting We went from getting top 70-80 recruits... To top 300 recruits... Goodine and braswell were 4-5th options... Not number one high priority recruits Goodine should have never been in an su uniform... That's why he ended up at Fairfield I know the landscape is changing.. but Syracuse recruiting was very hampered during the sanctions... We were not getting the same type of basketball player we were getting for the last 40 years And it's going back in the right direction now.. with legitimate four and five-star recruits Goodine was basically a three-star guy which is not Syracuse caliber We get top 100 high major four-star guys
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It would have to be our worst of the worst like Peter carey If we have recruits going to that conference then we're not recruiting good enough If we have recruits leaving... At least if they're going to duke like maliq it shows we're getting the right guys If we have a bunch of transfers going to sienna it shows that we're recruiting mid major guys lol
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Gunner's 2024 Draft Quarterback Evaluations
Buffalo716 replied to GunnerBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
Caleb Williams is a better prospect than Patrick mahomes coming out... He's a better prospect than fields , Darnold , baker , Drake Maye , stroud , Anthony Richardson, Watson, tua even allen etc And his processing problems are over exaggerated... He had no problem playing the short quick game at Oklahoma .. he can process fast... He isn't lost When your defense gives up 40 points a game you no longer have the option of dinking and dunking down the field for 60 minutes a game... You must hold the ball to take shots ... You take yourself out of that short rhythm because 12 Play drives don't work... You pass up six yard completions to look for 15 yard completions... That's just what happens Does he have flaws in his game? Yes... But I saw him live in HS and Oklahoma and USC and when you put him around his QB peers he elevates... I said 3 years ago he would be the number one overall pick... Because he was on a different level... And I still think he is compared to the others in his class.. put him on LSU and watch what he does And he is the epitome of the modern NFL quarterback.. he's closer to a young Aaron Rodgers arm talent or better deshaun Watson physically.. a guy who can throw from the pocket or launch it while running... He has a live arm and is very mobile He also plays stronger from the pocket than Drake Maye and others... He has a very strong step up move which leaves defenders hanging off him At the end of the day nobody knows how 22-year-old kids will progress over 5 years... It's a combination of luck, work ethic, skill and where you ended up David Carr was immensely more talented than his brother... But Derek got the better situation But Caleb was a dog day 1 on campus in OU... He had former five star number one high school recruit Spencer rattler... Who will also be getting drafted Shook from day one on campus... Cus Caleb was coming for his job... And out playing him in practice and spring ball Coming back versus Texas was the icing on the cake and an unbelievable true freshman performance Every single quarterback right down to Tom Brady and Peyton Manning have flaws... So yeah it's easy to nitpick 22-year-old kids... But Caleb certainly isn't your run of the mill quarterback and I've been scouting them a long time .. like I said I saw a number one overall pick in spring ball when he was a freshman He has immense talent and has been playing with a lot of pressure on him for years so pressure won't fold him If anything the bears organization will... It sucks that that is where he's going because they haven't developed a quarterback in 40 years I think Maye has a lot of talent, is Young... And has the size you want But I do not think he is the playmaker that Caleb can be at the next level -
I have a problem with Cooper Dejean type players
Buffalo716 replied to NastyNateSoldiers's topic in The Stadium Wall
A white corner was also drafted last year... It has nothing to do with race... It has to do with how skill sets work better for certain positions and players have been built for college and NFL There are lots of talented white football players.. running backs wide receivers safeties lineman QBs... Kids who are being groomed to play these positions from day one... There are just less white kids playing cornerback than safety or WR or QB You need the right body type and athletic profile for a corner in college or NFL... It's a very rare athletic profile ... And there are white cornerbacks in college... A white corner was also drafted last year But to make it simple... Most NFL players have been playing since they were 8 years old... Years of practice and grooming... Talk to a football coach who has a son.. From a child.. they were raised to be a quarterback.. or wide receiver... Or a left tackle or linebacker My friend's father was a division one tackle at Maryland.. raised his kid to be a left tackle since he could walk... Calisthenics weight training bulking up early... My friend wound up at 6'8-320 lbs 3-year division 1 starter with a cup of tea in the NFL he was bred to play football... There's not a lot of White corners being bred from day 1... They are getting groomed at other positions Byrd was your classic zone college corner, with amazing instincts and acceleration But won't be able to run with NFL wide receivers at corner He was my number one free safety on the board that year -
Lions extend St. Brown (4 years, 120 mil, 77 gtd)
Buffalo716 replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
I mean that's the trend that a lot of GMS follow It's QB , pass rusher , Left tackle , CB or WR Those are the premium positions that get big contracts.. that's why you want the fifth year option Off ball linebackers and safety's and running backs are valuable... But you can find them well after the first Those positions that I listed get fast runs -
Donnie Freeman finishes at number 6 in the ESPN 300 ******* Stud! And Elijah moore is one of the best shooters in the class Lumpkin at center with 7 footers backing him up... We got by a lot of accounts now... One of The best high school power forwards in the country
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I have a problem with Cooper Dejean type players
Buffalo716 replied to NastyNateSoldiers's topic in The Stadium Wall
Milano made that transition during his freshman year of college He didn't even play one full season as a safety... Just a few appearances as a 210 pound kid So he was safety size -
Off Topic: Sabres rehire Lindy Ruff as Head Coach
Buffalo716 replied to Chandler#81's topic in The Stadium Wall
Lindy!!! -
Pegulas selling 25% of the Bills, per Tim Graham
Buffalo716 replied to Roundybout's topic in The Stadium Wall
I think there's a difference between your true love and first love as u also said Why the hell would you be getting down on your knee and proposing to a woman that you didn't love? And Terry was married before.... So Kim may be his true love and love of his life but absolutely not his first... Because the dude already loved another wife That was more my point that he's already been married... So definitely not first love Plenty of people find soulmates later in life -
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NBA bans Raptors' Jontay Porter for gambling violations
Buffalo716 replied to Mike in Horseheads's topic in Off the Wall
I thought I was the only one betting on Saudi Arabian backgammon I'll take the house 😁