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    Matt Barkley extended for two years

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    1 hour ago, Kelly the Dog said:

    I agree with everything you said, except if you have a rag arm, which very few players ever improve. It’s possible but highly unlikely. 

     

    Nick Mullens is statistically performing the best of the rookie QBs and he has a very weak arm. In fact he leads the NFL in passing yards since week 13. It can be overcome. Mullens will never be a consistent starter but that type of QB certainly can be a good backup in this league.

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    Josh Allen: NBC Sports Boston Reporter Shares The “Blueprint” To Beat Him

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    23 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said:

    Gimore can be having a better season than White and the Bills could have made the right decision to not compete for his services. It's not an either or proposition.

     

    I agree completely. Truthfully I haven't been watching Gilmore much this season. I know last year Patriots fans hated him and blamed him for their defense suddenly tanking. I also know that I'd much rather pay White his rookie salary with the 5th year option.

     

    As for Belichick always making the best decisions, that has never been true. I think we won the Matt Milano on a rookie deal vs Mike Gillislee for one season trade.

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    Josh Allen’s Adjusted Completion Percentage = 72.7%

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    7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

     

     

     

    Targets includes stuff like being the guy in the neighborhood where the QB throws it away, not to mention just bad throws that go ten feet over his head. It's not a good measure of how well a receiver is doing, partly for the reasons above and partly because it's half on the QB.

     

    1st Q 1:06 Allen throws to Zay's knees, catch, 11 yards

     

    1st Q 00:26 Allen with a terrible throw, should never have been thrown and was underthrown besides, is intercepted on the sidelines as a defender undercuts the route four yards in front of Zay, but luckily he is ruled out of bounds on a call that was not clear at all.

     

    2nd Q 00:13 Long bomb, 52 yards past LOS, on the left side, with Allen taking a long shot near the end of the half. The CB, Slay, is in front of Jones on the inside, preventing Jones from getting past. Jones steps on Slay's foot and they both lose their balance. Slay starts to fall but leans back to knock it away. Jones couldn't leap or fight well after stepping on the foot. The throw was a bit inside, as Slay had inside leverage.

     

    3rd Q 8:22 Zay has half a step but isn't wide open. The safety is coming over but won't get there in time, as Jones is running towards the pylon. Allen overthrows him about 30 yards downfield.

     

    4th Q 3:54 Zay coming over the middle sixteen yards deep. Ball is high, Zay leaps. Tough ball, thrown hard and high but though it was far from an easy catch (and it could have been, the CB was behind and nobody was anywhere in front of Jones, it could have been thrown with touch) it was catchable.

     

    4th 13:47 A 17 yard comeback on the right near the sideline. Good throw, knocked away. Slay was behind Jones as Jones stopped and grabbed Jones, stopping him from coming back towards the ball. Should've been a penalty, IMHO.

     

    So Zay got his hands on two of them. Not six.

     

     

     

    Zay looks - to me - like a young guy showing improvement and promise but hiccups. Much like Allen, really. Both of them need to improve, both of them have a chance to do so with time.

     

    I wasn't trying to say Zay had 5 drops. Just that when we target him the offense isn't moving. If we're grading him against the Lions sure let's take away the 2 uncatchable passes. But let's also add in the play that was called a PI since he could have made that catch too with good strength and technique. That's 5 catchable balls and he only caught 1. Yeah they would have all been somewhat tough catches. That's the NFL. They are made tougher because he has no ability to consistently get separation and he seemingly struggles to track the ball. If he can't separate, catch, or track the ball at a high level, what can he do that makes him a worthy starter? I'm under no illusions that McKenzie is a great or even good wide receiver, but when we throw him the ball it ends up in his hands more often than not. This is a 2nd straight year where we are making excuses for Zay causing more negative plays than positive. There's still a chance he develops into even a competent starter but I'm not holding my breath.

    13 dropped balls all season?????

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    Posted · Edited by HappyDays

    10 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

    Actually, Mc and Foster aren't targeted over the middle like Zay and Clay.

     

    I've seen both of them catch tough passes over the middle where a defender was on them immediately. In fact I'm pretty sure just about all our drops since Allen returned from injury have been Jones, Clay, and Thompson. Foster has miraculously found his hands and McKenzie doesn't have any issues holding the ball until he is running with it. Allen is never going to be a perfectly precise passer like Brady. Instead of expecting him to suddenly become that kind of QB, we just need to get pass catchers that can make small adjustments. That's what the Chiefs offense is built around. Mahomes isn't blowing up the record book by throwing the ball to an exact spot. He's using his athleticism and pure arm strength to get the ball in the area of his receivers and they're doing the rest.

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    13 dropped balls all season?????

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    1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

    Face it, having an arm like that means that Josh can beat the defense anywhere on the field but also means his intended targets get less time to track and adjust to the ball and will have more difficulty actually catching it.

     

    McKenzie hasn't had any issues catching his passes. Foster hasn't either since leaving the practice squad. Just Zay and Clay and Benjamin, and they all had trouble catching the ball last year too. We don't need to make excuses. They are just bad.

    13 dropped balls all season?????

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    35 minutes ago, MJS said:

    Watch a real offense and you'll see receivers making contested catches, something you NEVER see from these receivers.

     

    I think Croom's catch at the end of the Lions game is the only contested catch of the year. I would remember if there was another one. Foster has made some nice adjustments on the ball downfield, but Croom is the only player so far this year that actually won a catch against a defender in tight coverage. Meanwhile we're debating whether a pass that hit a wide open tight end in the hands was accurate enough. The standards here are crazy.

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    Josh Allen’s Adjusted Completion Percentage = 72.7%

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    3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    Gordon was a 2nd round pick in the supplemental draft 

     

    Are you saying Josh Gordon, who has been in the league for years and produced at a high level with such QBs as Deshone Kizer, is only good because Brady is elevating him? And your evidence of this is that he was picked in the supplemental draft for reasons that had nothing to do with his talent?

    47 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    The same front office that drafted Allen (and please don’t pretend like it was Whaley) traded up to draft Zay.  That doesn’t worry you?

     

    I mean, no? The same front office also picked Foster as a UDFA. And personally i think Zay and Foster were both picked for the same reason, because their college coach happened to be here and put in a good recommendation. You're just changing your argument completely. Allen isn't going to elevate Zay because no one can because he is terrible. I don't care where he was drafted and I'm fine that this regime totally whiffed on one pick. How about watching Allen play the past few weeks instead of making convoluted points about what round his teammates were drafted in?

    Josh Allen’s Adjusted Completion Percentage = 72.7%

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    3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    But it I am getting a little tired about hearing how terrible our receivers are.  Who is Nick Mullens throwing to?  The Pats don’t have one receiver picked in the first round on their roster.  The Saints have a bunch of nobodies next to Rhomas, who was picked after Zay.  At some point, the qb needs to elevate the receivers. 

     

    I will take any WR in the league that is #4 or better on their roster over Zay Jones. If I'm remembering what I read correctly, Zay had 6 targets on Sunday and only caught 1 pass. He is useless. He is our #2 receiver and he is completely useless. McKenzie and Foster ARE being elevated by Allen, more than I think we give him credit for. No one in the league can elevate Zay, except for some timely pass interference calls.

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