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Ahahaha trading up for a RB. The Panthers really will never be good again.

Guess the WR from Lance Zierlein's report: Strengths Good initial burst off the snap. Slippery working around traffic and redirection in space. Jab step gives separation from route stem more life. Naturally instinctive pass-catcher. Adjusts speeds to track throws and shield coverage. Makes twisting, twirling mid-air adjustments look easy. Ridiculous catch radius to help a quarterback out. Sharpened catch focus in 2019. Quick hands to stab anticipation throws coming out of breaks. Leaping and length carry him to the high point. Reliable from slot at making "gotta have it" catches to extend drives. Willing to do his part and give effort as slot blocker. Weaknesses Spread scheme threw field wide open for him. Needs more attention to detail with his routes. Too complacent to beat coverage with athletic ability. Unable to run away and separate from tight man. Size and strength across from him impede production. Will take time adjusting to press looks as a pro. Limited one-on-one prowess to win 50/50 throws. Separation talent just average outside. Ready?

Specifically in the playoffs. I'm so sick of watching physical CBs bully our outside WRs in the playoffs. Coleman IS the bully. That's the skill set I wanted.

Nobody in the NFL is running away from people consistently except for guys like Tyreek Hill. Diggs wasn't doing that. A WR's job is to create leverage at the catch point to open up a throwing window, then catch the ball, then make something happen with the ball in their hands if there's an opportunity. Coleman I believe can do all of that. And he's going to really work at his craft.

Oh my God the Falcons are throwing this draft away. I'm actually laughing out loud.

I'm a tad nervous because I've been pumping up Coleman as a great pick, and now if he sucks I'm gonna look stupid. But man his size and competitiveness and hands just get me really excited. Allen is a gunslinger. He just got his guy he can launch the ball to downfield 1v1.

McDermott and Pegula are talking presumably to the prospect on the phone. We're sticking and picking.

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Ran the fastest gauntlet time of any WR at the combine. I just don't care about the 40 time. He is a 2nd round prospect for me, not a 1st round prospect. I recognize his flaws. I am betting on his size and competitiveness and hands. All things considered I want to draft him plus one of the other 5ish WRs that are considered 2nd rounders. Bet on two to double our chances.

Sorry but that's a lazy comparison. I respect people that don't like him as a prospect, but scout Keon Coleman, not Kelvin Benjamin. I also didn't like him as a prospect when I first read his profile. Then I watched all his snaps and I grew to really like him.

Kelvin Benjamin was a good WR until he gave up on trying. But anyways Coleman is not the same prospect. He's more athletic and better with the ball in his hands.

Keon Coleman is reportedly very high football character. He is motivated to do well in the NFL so he can provide for his family. He is definitely a character fit for us. Physically he has the tools that I know Beane would love. And he's young, just about to turn 21 in May.

I would honestly rather trade a 2025 2nd than our 2024 3rd. It might be short sighted of me but I want three players from the top 100 this year, and we still have another 2025 2nd in the bag from the Diggs trade. My preference is Franklin/Coleman. But any one of these two is fine by me, preferably two that complement each other well: Franklin Coleman McConkey Polk Mitchell

To get #36 and #40, we could give up #33, #60, and one of our 2025 2nds. That would be equal value by the Rich Hill chart. It is a risk though because NE needs a WR. But we could double dip at WR at #36 and #40 in that scenario.

I think Deebo they technically could because he's on a normal contract, not the 5th year option, so the 49ers could theoretically (I think) agree to retain most or all of his salary. Nor sure on the particulars though. We have just over $3M in cap space right now and we need room to sign our draft picks so while maybe not technically impossible, it feels like a massively unlikely prospect. Aiyuk on the other hand is literally impossible as far as I know. His 5th year option cap hit can't be retained. We would need to free up more cap space than we have the ability to just to put him on our roster even if only temporarily while we work out an extension.

Eh the Bills get dangled as bait in a lot of these trade discussions. But the trades we end up pulling off are never the ones we're rumored to be in on. Nobody had us trading for Diggs. Nobody has us trading up for Elam or Kincaid. We tried trading for Von Miller before the Rams did - nobody reported this until after fact. I would wager the 49ers are dangling the Bills and/or Patriots as potential trade partners to incentivize the real trade partners to increase their offer. I could actually see the Pats making this move, it makes sense for them. Maybe the 49ers are putting it out there that their division rival with a slightly higher 2nd round pick is also in the conversation. I would just be really surprised if us trying to trade for Deebo Samuel or any player leaked into the media because it's never happened.

I'm like 75% sure we'll be taking your boy from Oregon tonight. We are not at the spot in our team's life cycle where we should be trading for a weathered WR that we have to commit major cap space to. Drafting a couple young studs tonight makes way more sense.

Yeah I get it. But I agree with what Beane said last night - you stick to your board and make the best decision for the Buffalo Bills. I don't want him flinching and making a wrong decision because he's scared of KC. If we had stuck at #28, I think by far the most likely scenario is we would have taken whoever we end up taking at #33 tonight, and then the Chiefs would have traded up to #29 or done whatever they needed to get Worthy. In that scenario they'd still get their guy and we wouldn't have a 3rd round pick. There's just no reason other than irrational anxiety not to take the free 3rd round pick at that point. And I come away respecting Beane for willing to make a move that LOOKS crazy to everybody, but logically makes a ton of sense. He didn't flinch, like he did when he traded up for Elam for example.

Yeah I don't want to trade down again. Stick and pick the best WR on your board. We don't need more picks. If anything we need to part with some of our day three picks. No way we are making four picks in R5. I expect us to draft two players by #55, pick another player in the mid-80s(ish), and ultimately make something like four total picks on day three. Last year we picked 6 players so picking 7 this year sounds about right, and we have 10 total picks to use to move up the board and make sure we get guys that we like.

It just makes sense. We lost 4 WRs - Diggs, Davis, Harty, Sherfield. Harty was replaced by Samuel, Sherfield was replaced by Hollins (in competition with Shorter). Our #1 and #2 outside WRs are still missing.

It's not about the 5th year option at all. When teams move one slot up the board, they are making sure another team doesn't jump them for the same player. Beane said in the presser he had calls to go back to the 40s or 50s. Moving up 59 spots on mid-day three is a very good deal that we got for basically nothing, unless of course Leggette becomes a star in which case we'll regret it. But if they didn't value him in the 1st round it was a no brainer.