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Rapoport: everyone calling everyone in top 10. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857720204943654912

very funny!

Keep us updated! God I hope not a QB!

Or send both out on pass routes. Either one or both will get mis-matched and TT will have a short quick pass he can throw safely. This is what Pats have been trying to do to the league but due to crimes or injuries they have not be able to execute (thankfully).

Ok I give you that on the first one. the second I forgot. 2 first rounders for the 10th pick! Geez that's why they aren't one of the top draft picking teams. Whom did they do that for?

for 2 1st rounders, I'll take it.But who's gonna be foolish enough to do that for a 10.

But why give up on Howard. Take him and do to Pats what they've been doing to us for years. A big TE their LBs and corners can't cover.

But why?! https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857663030301265922

millions mean jack when your brain no longer works. compassion is a good value for humans. not just for saints.

I think they take a baseline test every year(?) but if he's already got it. is baseline going to be a true "basline"?. he's still going to be allowed to play. I can tell you from having it What percy Harvin had was post concussion syndrome. The constant migraine holy crap I've had that for 7 years. It's NO FUN. But that's just one aspect of it. It IMPAIRS your judgement, and slows down your ability to think. they get worse when you do physical activity, or get hit. IF only NFL poeple understand this better, they'd have avoided drafting Harvin or signing him again. Yes he now has money to live comfortably and get top dollar docs for treatment BUT man the way medical treatments being so expensive in the US, I don't know if his millions will cover it to be honest.

Vikes aren't going to take up his option for 2018. He'll be a risky backup plan for QB in 2018. https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/857225914920423425

Just saw this article. As someone who's been dealing with post concussion syndrome or mild Traumatic Brain Injury (mTBI or TBI) what he describes here is CLASSIC MTBI symptom. That's already well documented. NFL is going to face an even bigger lawsuit in the future about work related injuries unless they made every player sign away that legal right in their contracts. http://football.realgm.com/wiretap/38607/Joe-Thomas-Suffering-From-Memory-Loss

This board is divided on his abilities as a drafter. It's fair. His performance has been at the average of NFL. Not as bad as 15 other teams but not as good as the top 16. Based on numbers provided by pro football reference, I've crunched some numbers here: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/193447-nfl-draft-performance-analysis-for-2012-2016/

interesting

Dude, you should be ashamed for using a HOF's namesake and speak so much GARBAGE. Roster bare? would you trade this roster for Browns'? or 49ers? Jets? are you saying mccoy isn't a performer? Glenn, incognito, Dareus, Watkins, Hughes, Lonzo, Brown, Darby. We still haven't seen the best of Lawson, Washington, etc.

Remember the NHL just after the lock out years? when there was less fighting and less grabbing and holding and stuff. It was just more skating. So many of the big teams like the Bruins Flyers etc who were built for the physical game stank and the whole league went back to the old model. Sure yeah fighting got the UFC crowd but that's too narrow. Allowing more grabbing and holding stops the skating. And that's happened to NHL. It's become a NICHE product in the US. Used to be NHL and NFL for me. Now I don't even watch NHL anymore. It's a joke. Freakin joke. For fluidity of team play I watch Soccer, the European version.

Did you not watch Baseball last year? they got to World Series! then choked like the Bills of the 90s LOL Awesome logo!

Correlation between draft performance and winning Let's look at correlation between draft performance and wins. It's a 5 year window only, and it does not take into account 1) drafts in prior years 2) free agency signings 3) coaching performance. And you'll see where those three things factor in. So what I did was to plot out the total number of wins of NFL teams in the last five years to the total CareerAV (pro football reference) of their draftees. And for the most part, there is a pretty good suggestion of correlation: There is an interesting performance grouping here. Not everyone is at the average, but most are close to the trend line. At the top of the trend line, are the Seahawks. The masters of the Draft in the past five years. Now there are some significant outliers. On the OVER-PERFORMANCE side, we have Pats and Broncos. In each case, legacy draft results, coaching and FA signings have exceeded their recent draft performance. On the UNDER-PERFORMANCE side, this analysis clearly shows what we know intuitively - Browns, Jags, Rams, Bucs and Titans have done worse than what their drafts have been able to bring in. That is a clear indication of coaching ineffectiveness. Titans and Bucs are showing signs that's changing last year. And going by this analysis, Bills again performed where they should have. So, theoretically, Rex Ryan did what he was supposed to. Win at the level of draft performance. He didn't add to it, like Broncos and Pats have. He didn't under-perform either. He was just average. And that won't beat the Pats.

yeah exactly. If last year's 3 top defensive picks perform this year, the overall draft performance picture will get better. What's also interesting is that we can see how some teams are outperforming their draft picking ability. Certainly free agency signings help, though there's something to be said of 1) living on past drafts and 2) coaching talent covering up weak draft performance.

Zach Brown, Lorenzo Alexander, this guy. He found guys from scrap heap. I'll take the 5th rounder.

NY Post ranking is based on pro-bowls and wins based on their own criteria. I have used pro-football reference to look at production of players drafted to come up with a slightly better ranking. Thus whether you are selected to the pro-bowl or not, if your production bears out, it gets reflected in the grades. http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/193447-nfl-draft-team-ranking-2012-2016/

Certainly, Bills' draft ranking is impacted by on-field absence of key draftees from 2016 draft. A closer look at the numbers for bills in the last 3 years indicates this:

The NFL Draft is coming up this week and we've seen 2 or 3 articles on which teams have done the best job, worst, etc etc. But so many of these were based on pro-bowl selections only which is really limited. What's a better reflection of draft performance of each team is based on the productivity of the players they drafted. Not every player can be a star. Each team needs 22 guys who can perform on the field every single down. The best metric I've seen is by pro-football reference called Approximate Value (AV). http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/index37a8.html And based on the AV, they have a Weighted Career Approximate Value (CarAV). explanation is: At the top of every player's PFR page, you will see "Weighted Career AV" and a ranking since 1950. This is Doug's way of balancing peak production against raw career totals; for each player, he computes the following weighted sum of seasonal AV scores: 100% of the player's best season, plus 95% of his 2nd-best season, plus 90% of his 3rd-best season, plus 85% of his 4th-best season, .... Each team's draft picks and their productivity is listed on individual pages. Bills' draft picks and productivity are listed here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/draft.htm Thus, a better comparison of each team's performance is by taking the total of CarAV of the players each team drafted and add them up to rank them. I've picked the last 5 years (2012-2016). They are often the most talked about, and also likely have the most impact on a team's performance in the past year. Based on this methodology, I've come up with the following results: The average CarAV for the NFL in those five years is 279.7. Bills at 283 are just above that average. And Bills rank #17 in the NFL in the last five years. It isn't a surprise that Seahawks are #1 on this list. Vikings have been drafting well. Despite Pats penchant for trading DOWN, they are one of the best teams in drafting players, ranking #13. Redskins' numbers is boosted by RG3's production in his rookie year, but nonetheless, he WAS productive. What's surprising indeed is that Broncos haven't drafted well at all. And as we think about it, Payton Manning was a FA signing. So was Ware. Worst teams are not a surprise - Jets, 49ers and Saints. One of the surprises is that Rams are ranked so high. This validates media chatter about the talent on Ram's team, and Jeff Fisher's firing. The story is the same with Jags. Visually Bucs are a talented team and this metric bears it out. And the Ravens' decline is matched by their recent draft history. So while we are NOT a dumpster fire, at the same time we do not belong in the upper echelon of NFL when it comes to drafting. We are right in the big fat middle. The average of the average. Thus, that 7-9 record was perfectly suited.

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I saw that too. It's a lazy ranking. It doesn't show anything about production of the players drafted. you don't need to draft players who are pro bowl calibre to be successful. More successful teams draft players who are able to play and be productive. a better ranking would be take the players, the production for each position, give a grade by position and add up the scores all together.