jrober38

So far the numbers show that Mayfield has been excellent, and the other guys have been really poor. Mayfield looks like he'll be a star in the NFL. Allen, Darnold and Rosen haven't looked good. They need to take massive steps next year to get to the point where they're just average QBs.

Agreed. With his size, length and explosive traits, he seems better suited for the edge. He doesn't have the instincts to play inside.

Neither Williams or Moncrief are anything close to #1 WRs. The upcoming class of free agent receivers is a bunch of #3 guys who have either never lived up to their potential or whose best football is behind them.

This QB draft class is awful. There's barely a QB worth a first round pick let alone a top 10 pick.

Sure. This has nothing to do with the question I was answering though, which was why is the National Media not paying attention to Allen. I was just answering why his rushing yards aren't a major story.

Draft class at WR is loaded. Free agent class is terrible.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/pass/buffalo-bills/season/week/josh-allen/ALL529264/2018/14/pass

Because he literally has the worst passing stats in the league. The list of rookie 1st round picks from the past 20 years who played as rookies with a QB Rating in the 60s who went onto become franchise QBs is extremely short. As things stand, the list is Jared Goff, Matt Stafford (who has never really been very good) and Alex Smith. You're expecting something to happen that rarely happens. I hope it does, I just understand how truly difficult it is to find a good QB. I saw that. Not sure how that math adds up though. The Bills have 15 drops this season, and Allen has 206 passes. That means every single drop this team has had is with him at QB, which seems odd. Seems practically impossible that our receivers didn't drop one of the other 200 passes thrown by our QBs this year.

I'm assuming a bad season results in a new HC and GM. If this is true, it means all 15 drops by Bills receivers have been with Allen playing QB. Is that possible?

Allen is good at throwing the ball hard. It's the rest of the throws he makes that are less reliable at finding their target in the right spot. I fully agree that our pass catchers aren't good, but they've been better lately. Once we got rid of Benjamin, Pryor and Holmes I think they've been a bit more productive. Foster can play, Jones is decent in the slot and McKenzie has been a spark plug in the offense. They're not good, but they do get open pretty reliably, albeit mostly against zone coverage. We need better players and Allen needs to figure out how to consistently throw with touch. Those are the keys to next season.

He needs to ditch the hero ball asap. He made the terrible pick, and literally made the exact same throw later in the game when we were backed up by our own end zone and that one luckily fell incomplete. The pick that ended the game was inexcusable. As film shows, he double clutches it, knows it's not there, and throws it anyways even though Murhphy is leaking out of the backfield wide open. As McDermott has been saying all year, Allen needs to figure out how to take what the defense is giving him. He can't just keep throwing passes into coverage and hoping his guy will make a play when the defender is in perfect position to break it up or intercept it.

Jacksonville has the most drops in the league with 28. We have 15 drops in 406 pass attempts, which is 3.7%. Jacksonville is up at 6%. I can't find drops by game, so maybe Allen has seen his receivers drop more passes than our other QBs, but I'm not sure.

Because it's objective. Generally speaking, when you want to talk about things that are charted as official stats by the NFL, it helps to actually use the official stats.

Agreed. What he's saying doesn't make any sense. You can't argue that it was just a decision making issue, because if it was, Allen has no business being on the field if he's intentionally trying to throw the ball to the other team, which appears to be what is being argued in his defence.

Show some official stats. I don't care about which throws you think were drops. 4 drops in 1 game and 15 in 13 games doesn't add up....

You're literally relying on your own opinion as a reliable source for statistics, and you're lecturing me on "objectivity"? Holy crap. Allen is a starting QB in the NFL, and he's the worst passer in the league. Guys who suck as rookies rarely go on to be successful. There are a couple examples who did, but way more often than not the QBs who put up garbage passing numbers as rookies went on to be busts.

Do you have a link to how many official drops there actually were? I highly doubt there were 4 in one game and only 15 for the entire season. The question said "receivers". If you're talking about all pass catchers, I agree that the Bills are the worst.

The question had nothing to do with tight ends. If it had, I'd agree.

It doesn't happen more frequently. The Bills pass catchers have dropped 15 passes all season, and the NFL average is like 13. You make it sound like our guys are dropping 4-5 passes a game. That's obviously not even remotely true.

Keep him, sign two linemen, draft a blue chip WR, and see if he can get his QB Rating up at least 30 points. If he can't, I'm making alternate plans for 2020.

Who do they have that is better than anyone we have?

I'll lay it out: The Bills aren't winning, his passing stats are the worst in the league among starting QBs, and he throws a TD once every 45.4 pass attempts.

San Francisco, Arizona and Oakland.

Again, this isn't really true. At halftime Allen was 9 of 18 for 95 yards passing (5.3 YPA), with a terrible interception. His first half passing was no better than the second. He just ran it a lot better when he scrambled.

This isn't in line with reality. The issue with Allen is that he struggles with the gimme passes. He's great at the hard throws that few people can make, but misses too many easy ones. Putting more of them in the playbook at Wyoming wouldn't have helped, because those are the throws he struggles with the most.